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[patchwork]

T3 can you explain why I’m so further down on your list. I’m highly upset.

I didn't like your Invisibility scumread and you haven't done anything towny

the invisibility scumread is pretty bad though tbh

[patchwork]

yeaa pagetop sweet

[patchwork]

psst NK can we get a readslist? or if you don't want to do that (please do) can we get a limpool for today plus explanations

[Umlaut]

{Invisibility}
{patchwork, Black}
{Not Known 15}
{geraintm, Venmar, T3, Greeting}
{Malakittens, bristep123}

can you explain a read from here that isn't me or nk15 pick your favorite

Not really, the people saying it was BS were at least partially right in that I just sort of threw that together without thinking too hard about it. Something about Mala's posts thru 69 or so felt like writing a lot and acting engaged without really saying anything. It was and is a weak reason for a vote and I'm happy to move from it but didn't really have any better ideas

That said I like the points on Venmar so

VOTE: Venmar

(Not really engaging with this game today, will try to be more active tomorrow, but didn't want to just be incommunicado all day long)

Not really engaging with the game today, too much else going on, but I can say I put NK15 a step above the totally-nulls (geraintm, etc.)

[patchwork]

Not really, the people saying it was BS were at least partially right in that I just sort of threw that together without thinking too hard about it. Something about Mala's posts thru 69 or so felt like writing a lot and acting engaged without really saying anything. It was and is a weak reason for a vote and I'm happy to move from it but didn't really have any better ideas

i don't feel like mafia would admit this

[patchwork]

venmar, why do you dislike black's post? i thought it was a good catchup and it provided some fresh takes
like are you gonna engage with it or what? are you just saying you're more sure about black cause you wanna OMGUS?
i'm not opposed to a venmar wagon, but there's a lot of people on him right now. i'd rather use my vote somewhere else.

speaking of votes... can someone explain why they're voting umlaut? they've just kind of been unremarkable this game

Wait so Black scumreading cause im reading this game off of mainly vibes and gut but then you doing this:

bri (bad vibes to me)

wait have you explained this or does it start and end with vibes

starts and ends with vibes

Is supposed to make sense?

BIG THINKING EMOJI

Also can you answer my fucking question instead of deflecting.

[Invisibility]

T3 can you explain why I’m so further down on your list. I’m highly upset.

I didn't like your Invisibility scumread and you haven't done anything towny

:?

the invisibility scumread is pretty bad though tbh

do you find Mala scummy?

[Umlaut]

Ignore the last paragraph in my last post, I started writing about NK before realizing Invis said to talk about someone else, and forgot to delete the unfinished paragraph.

[Invisibility]

lol it's okay I was mostly just saying that so you wouldn't just say that you had a nullread on NK since I was frustated at the not-content of many of your posts LOL

[Invisibility]

but your most recent post is cool in the content department. This is so awesome

[Malakittens]

I mean tbh I was scumrrading blue squirrel early on, but not anymore

[Invisibility]

I think your scumread on me was OK once you explained yourself and also we cleared up some confusion I think

[Invisibility]

like my main qualm was that it seemed weird and vague

[Malakittens]

That’s me in a nutshell
Weird n vague

[Venmar]

I realize Blacks reasoning is more nuanced but I think y'all are being opportunistic and voting me for taking a laid back approach to this game and its easy convenient for scum to take advantage of that and push an easy wagon, and that's the vibe Black is giving me!

This reads as you think I'm scum but that townies jumped on the wagon. Would this be a fair assessment?

Mmmmm, probably?

[Venmar]

Black's #256 bothered me because a chunk of the wall is irrelevant comments ("Hi patch", "Cant believe we won death note", etc), a lot of it is just empty commentary to me ("not following these reads by Umlaut", "this feels a little fence-sitty from bris", etc) that feels like Black trying to find a reason to be productive and useful as !scum, like trying to fill a quota, rather than being a townie trying to focus on something and scumhunting, and a lot of the reads are just pretty non-committal and fencesitty in of themselves (see the comments to 153, 233, 120, etc) despite her criticizing others for the same.

Her reasons for voting me are then also pretty poor since idk how she spends much of the post throwing shade at other players, some more than me like Umlaut, and then decided to single me out because I accidentally wrote down Greeting twice in my reads post and because I jokingly told people to sheep me with no context on Umlaut. Former reason is just bogus and the latter feels like manufactured outrage. It definitely feels like Black is really reaching and making a mountain out of a molehill by focusing on stuff like that and taking advantage of the fact that I've decided to play passive and have provided no context for me vibe reads which is a really easy playstyle to just blindly attack as scum with not much effort.

Her doubling down after I simply said I had more bad vibes from her is also not great imo, saying I am playing "the typical scum hanging out in the background role" just kind of genuinely means nothing imo and is something that only feels true to the person saying it, there's not much in what I've done that is different from other low-effort posters in the game so this comment is just confirmation bias.

[Venmar]

VOTE: Black

To reflect the change in the strength of the vibes

[Venmar]

venmar, why do you dislike black's post? i thought it was a good catchup and it provided some fresh takes
like are you gonna engage with it or what? are you just saying you're more sure about black cause you wanna OMGUS?
i'm not opposed to a venmar wagon, but there's a lot of people on him right now. i'd rather use my vote somewhere else.

speaking of votes... can someone explain why they're voting umlaut? they've just kind of been unremarkable this game

Wait so Black scumreading cause im reading this game off of mainly vibes and gut but then you doing this:

bri (bad vibes to me)

wait have you explained this or does it start and end with vibes

starts and ends with vibes

Is supposed to make sense?

BIG THINKING EMOJI

Also can you answer my fucking question instead of deflecting.

Rawr

I did though in 315 you're welcome!!

[patchwork]

do you find Mala scummy?

ehhh null. i don't really know how to read them (her? idk). the read was bad until it was explained and i still don't really understand why there was a scumread since i've gotten town vibes from you since the first few pages. i still think it might be a chainsaw, but.. idk.
mala's kind of a weird slot that i will probably ISO when i get the time. i haven't thought much about them and they haven't been very present imo but it's hard for me to read them.

[patchwork]

I did though in 315 you're welcome!!

thanks ill read it right now

[patchwork]

Black's #256 bothered me because a chunk of the wall is irrelevant comments ("Hi patch", "Cant believe we won death note", etc), a lot of it is just empty commentary to me ("not following these reads by Umlaut", "this feels a little fence-sitty from bris", etc) that feels like Black trying to find a reason to be productive and useful as !scum, like trying to fill a quota, rather than being a townie trying to focus on something and scumhunting, and a lot of the reads are just pretty non-committal and fencesitty in of themselves (see the comments to 153, 233, 120, etc) despite her criticizing others for the same.

Her reasons for voting me are then also pretty poor since idk how she spends much of the post throwing shade at other players, some more than me like Umlaut, and then decided to single me out because I accidentally wrote down Greeting twice in my reads post and because I jokingly told people to sheep me with no context on Umlaut. Former reason is just bogus and the latter feels like manufactured outrage. It definitely feels like Black is really reaching and making a mountain out of a molehill by focusing on stuff like that and taking advantage of the fact that I've decided to play passive and have provided no context for me vibe reads which is a really easy playstyle to just blindly attack as scum with not much effort.

Her doubling down after I simply said I had more bad vibes from her is also not great imo, saying I am playing "the typical scum hanging out in the background role" just kind of genuinely means nothing imo and is something that only feels true to the person saying it, there's not much in what I've done that is different from other low-effort posters in the game so this comment is just confirmation bias.

wouldn’t you say confirmation bias is more likely to come from town than scum?

...also if black is scum i’m gonna be honest i don’t think she’s this bad at it and also i find you’re claiming black did stuff she didn’t actually do? maybe i’m mistaken, it’s pretty late where i am, but i thought her catch-up post wasn’t that bad

[Invisibility]

That’s me in a nutshell
Weird n vague

up top!

[Venmar]

wouldn’t you say confirmation bias is more likely to come from town than scum?

...also if black is scum i’m gonna be honest i don’t think she’s this bad at it and also i find you’re claiming black did stuff she didn’t actually do? maybe i’m mistaken, it’s pretty late where i am, but i thought her catch-up post wasn’t that bad

No

You're giving her a lot of credit, what she's doing isn't "bad", she got me to E-2 with no real effort. Re-read her post with what I said about it in mind. There's not much meat or substance in the post and tell me with a straight face that her voting me out of that pile of reads/observations makes sense

[Invisibility]

do you find Mala scummy?

ehhh null. i don't really know how to read them (her? idk). the read was bad until it was explained and i still don't really understand why there was a scumread since i've gotten town vibes from you since the first few pages. i still think it might be a chainsaw, but.. idk.
mala's kind of a weird slot that i will probably ISO when i get the time. i haven't thought much about them and they haven't been very present imo but it's hard for me to read them.

did you find Mala's read on me scummy at any point?

also in 300 you said the read was bad and now you're saying the read was bad until it was explained, but like, this post and that post were both made long after they explained their read so I'm confused as to what changed

[patchwork]

do you find Mala scummy?

ehhh null. i don't really know how to read them (her? idk). the read was bad until it was explained and i still don't really understand why there was a scumread since i've gotten town vibes from you since the first few pages. i still think it might be a chainsaw, but.. idk.
mala's kind of a weird slot that i will probably ISO when i get the time. i haven't thought much about them and they haven't been very present imo but it's hard for me to read them.

did you find Mala's read on me scummy at any point?

also in 300 you said the read was bad and now you're saying the read was bad until it was explained, but like, this post and that post were both made long after they explained their read so I'm confused as to what changed

i mean i still think it's bad but it's slightly better after it was explained, if that makes sense. i'm not sure if i buy mala's reasoning but for now i've decided to leave it be. later i might look into it more.