Newbie 2120 - Poetry | Post Game

[usesPython]

Also current d2 prediction: Both scum will put Alianna in the "will settle" pool, Alianna gets compromise limmed and flips green, and we'll still be stuck with this 1v1

[Merlyn]

Also current d2 prediction: Both scum will put Alianna in the "will settle" pool, Alianna gets compromise limmed and flips green, and we'll still be stuck with this 1v1

If you're predicting that she flips green, she really shouldn't be in your limpool. You can't think of 1 more person that makes your top three lists of suspects that you won't predict is likely town, it's just definitely mislim and drew?

[JasonWazza]

Also current d2 prediction: Both scum will put Alianna in the "will settle" pool, Alianna gets compromise limmed and flips green, and we'll still be stuck with this 1v1

If you're predicting that she flips green, she really shouldn't be in your limpool. You can't think of 1 more person that makes your top three lists of suspects that you won't predict is likely town, it's just definitely mislim and drew?

I mean, it's the only wagon going and compromise might have to happen, would you rather Python says that she'd prefer a no lim?

Personal preference is to stay in the 1v1 between Mislim and Python

[usesPython]

Also current d2 prediction: Both scum will put Alianna in the "will settle" pool, Alianna gets compromise limmed and flips green, and we'll still be stuck with this 1v1

If you're predicting that she flips green, she really shouldn't be in your limpool. You can't think of 1 more person that makes your top three lists of suspects that you won't predict is likely town, it's just definitely mislim and drew?

Alianna (Don't want but will vote here if the alternative is no-lim)

Jason

Merlyn

Alianna

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eektor

Drew

Mislim

[Merlyn]

I didn't really comment on Mislim because the came off as way more towny then you Python, so I more focused on your scumminess.

And it doesn't matter that Fire and Ice was multiball, you are imploring very similar tactics as you did as scumPython did in that game.

Even this move putting yourself up for possible elim is similar to your little gambit in Fire and Ice where you said you would be fine to get limmed if I(or Bulge) didn't flip scum.

Tonally, you are almost identical.

I would prefer Python goes, but I can settle for Aliana.

Tactics and tonally it's identical because there I was pushing who I thought was scum and here I'm pushing who I think is scum, I don't think it's a hard concept to grasp and frankly I don't think town!Drew has this much trouble figuring this out after it's already been pointed out

If I'm understanding the multiball part correctly, python had to hunt another scum team in order to win even though they were scum themselves, right? If so I don't think much of this argument Drew. Also, I don't think I like that your main case for python seems to be another game. Don't get me wrong, I love me some meta! But it's not that great of a case if you don't have something in this game against them, too.

[Merlyn]

I mean, it's the only wagon going and compromise might have to happen, would you rather Python says that she'd prefer a no lim?

Personal preference is to stay in the 1v1 between Mislim and Python

Jason
Merlyn
Alianna/eektor
Drew
Mislim

What I would prefer is that Python didn't have Alianna on this list as yellow and also be saying they predict Alianna will flip green. You don't think that's unhelpful?

[usesPython]

If I'm understanding the multiball part correctly, python had to hunt another scum team in order to win even though they were scum themselves, right?

Correct, FaI is balanced around a

33

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33

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33

Town/Fire Mafia/Ice Mafia winrate, getting a d1 scum lim brings the winrates to like

50

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33

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15

in favor of the scum that didnt get limmed

I mean, it's the only wagon going and compromise might have to happen, would you rather Python says that she'd prefer a no lim?

Personal preference is to stay in the 1v1 between Mislim and Python

Jason
Merlyn
Alianna/eektor
Drew
Mislim

What I would prefer is that Python didn't have Alianna on this list as yellow and also be saying they predict Alianna will flip green. You don't think that's unhelpful?

It's a gamestate read, if a person in my yellow list gets compromise limmed today it's scum hoping to push this to ELO

[JasonWazza]

Read's are read's, if you think you have the scum pair, why would you need to compromise onto someone that is PoE'd to be town.

If you think that's unhelpful, i'm unclear on how to help with that one.

[Doctor Drew]

Congrats you passed the test, thanks for participating Python.

I feel confident it is TvT.

I intend to hammer Aliana.

[Merlyn]

Okay, I get it. I wasn't feeling like you were saying something scummy, actually, I was just kind of feeling like you were setting yourself to say 'I told you so' if this all goes wrong and that exasperated me for a minute.

My preferences are for Alianna and eektor equally. I will vote for anyone if it's that or no lim.

ninjaed- wait what?

[usesPython]

Congrats you passed the test, thanks for participating Python.

I feel confident it is TvT.

I intend to hammer Aliana.

Also current d2 prediction: Both scum will put Alianna in the "will settle" pool, Alianna gets compromise limmed and flips green, and we'll still be stuck with this 1v1

[Merlyn]

Congrats you passed the test, thanks for participating Python.

I feel confident it is TvT.

I intend to hammer Aliana.

what are you talking about?

[JasonWazza]

Congrats you passed the test, thanks for participating Python.

I feel confident it is TvT.

I intend to hammer Aliana.

Just to be clear, your aware that Alianna is at E-2 yeah?

[usesPython]

Yeah no I'm not limming outside of Mislim/Drew today after that

[Merlyn]

I'm just gonna UNVOTE: for a minute here.

[usesPython]

Also new prediction for the rest of the game if Alianna gets limmed today: nightkills are Python/Jason in that order and Mislim endgames because the only people still alive think it's TvT

[JasonWazza]

Python, you don't have anything that can speed us along to a better solution do you?

[Doctor Drew]

I wanted to push Python because of Fire and Ice, and thought I could use specifics from that game because I thought their case on me in that game was just scum pushing town for a dumb reason, which I thought I saw Python doing to Mislim here.

But when I read that Python actually was scum reading me in that game I was like 'lets see how they react if I still push him using a bit of flawed logic'. Definitely was a bit of a drunken Drew idea lol, but thought it might be funand their reaction was more calm and logical then I expected, since I was scum reading them. I expected scumPython to really come at me harder. And while I don't agree with them about Mislim, I don't think they are scum either.

Also, thought I read Aliana was at E-1

[usesPython]

Python, you don't have anything that can speed us along to a better solution do you?

wdym? I already solved the game

[JasonWazza]

Never mind then, just a hopeful thought.

[usesPython]

Also, thought I read Aliana was at E-1

If Alianna flips red who's her partner?

[Doctor Drew]

Also, thought I read Aliana was at E-1

If Alianna flips red who's her partner?

Oh God, are you trying to get me to go back to scum reading you?

I already fell down that trap a bit on D1, now I am just going to focus on today's lim then go from there.

[Merlyn]

I wanted to push Python because of Fire and Ice, and thought I could use specifics from that game because I thought their case on me in that game was just scum pushing town for a dumb reason, which I thought I saw Python doing to Mislim here.

But when I read that Python actually was scum reading me in that game I was like 'lets see how they react if I still push him using a bit of flawed logic'. Definitely was a bit of a drunken Drew idea lol, but thought it might be funand their reaction was more calm and logical then I expected, since I was scum reading them. I expected scumPython to really come at me harder. And while I don't agree with them about Mislim, I don't think they are scum either.

Also, thought I read Aliana was at E-1

Are you...and I mean this in the nicest possible way, Drew...drunk right now? Because that post was bonkers. I don't know what I think of it. I mean, I'll start with why Alianna, when the last thing you (very recently!) said about her was 'not feeling good but not enough info' and now thought you were about to hammer her?

[usesPython]

Also, thought I read Aliana was at E-1

If Alianna flips red who's her partner?

Oh God, are you trying to get me to go back to scum reading you?

I already fell down that trap a bit on D1, now I am just going to focus on today's lim then go from there.

It's called a hypothetical, there's only 7 people still alive which means you'd only need to consider 5 partners. This thought experiment ain't some big ask

[usesPython]

Are you...and I mean this in the nicest possible way, Drew...drunk right now? Because that post was bonkers. I don't know what I think of it. I mean, I'll start with why Alianna, when the last thing you (very recently!) said about her was 'not feeling good but not enough info' and now thought you were about to hammer her?

No the progression is theoretically fine

I really feel it is scumPythin here, but don't want to be influenced by emotions from another game where they were scum, so will let it stew a bit.

But my as promised my reads, in tier form, are:

Won't elim today:
Merlyn
eektor

Won't elim, but tinfoil could say otherwise:
Jason
Miselim

The need more info from Aliana, but not feeling too good about her tier:
Aliana

Fool me once:
Python