Mini Normal 2299 | Postgame [Village win]

[Alianna]

I was just wanting to see if your case would clarify your thoughts better, but I guess I'll do it anyway.

Awh jeezy peeps what is this

The wagon on me is bad, I don't think anyone has even tried to justify a vote on me.

Theta's vote was an OMGUS sourced from me questioning them and holding them to account with their stated overnight actions (which I still don't think they've done btw).

My play is apparently 'just off', and there's some wacky tinfoil shite about me bussing Enchant?

I don't think anyone else has really justified.

Idk this wagon has developed so fast and so easily that it's damn near impossible not to have scum on it - and I think that's Theta.

They said they were going to do a readslist but instead have come out with this tinfoil theory that somehow ended with the softest vote on me going.

I'm currently on a train with naff internet but I'll lay out a case when I get home in around 2-ish hours

Feels like you're misrepresenting Theta's case here. Here's your whole section in their readslist:

probably scum
deltabreedy - out of all the votes on enchant this felt the most like it could be a bus
plus just the rest of their play is just off
they also near immediately started attacking flavor leaf after they announced their result

i do think we are in a 2 scum + 1 traitor remaining situation
i do not feel alianna and doctor drew being scum which
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it makes the most sense thus their placement on this list but
regardless i do think this is scum in any situation at this point
VOTE: deltabreedy

The OMGUS thing is a theory, nothing more. It's not really evidence to scumread them. Nothing in their ISO suggests that their read on you has anything to do with your questioning of them.
Also, they made a readslist. Is the issue that they didn't post one immediately upon the start of D1?

Those weren't their only reasons to SR you. They were also suspicious of your response to Flavor Leaf's claim at the beginning of D2. Why haven't you acknowledged that point at all?

This only works as a point against Theta if you think it's exactly them and someone else on the wagon. Otherwise, it's kind of like saying, "Theta is scum because they voted me and the town dogpiled onto it." Do you think Hu Tao or I is scum too?

[Alianna]

Never mind the last point, I see what you said in 721.

[Doctor Drew]

I will say I can understand going after FL if you have never played with them before. He tends to be atypical in their play style can come of scummy if you are not used him.

I do think Delta was ready to attack Theta right out of the gate though, even when Theta did sorta kinda post some reads.

That is the most damning part to me if it is scumDelta, but I still am not buying the progression from saying Aliana/Drew are scum, and then saying Delta is scummier.

And again, even though I offered to get the Aliana wagon going. They just ignored me.

Also, as an aside, I don't know why I always scum read all the females whose name starts with A. I don't know what this says about me haha.

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: delta

Think I'm okay with this for now

Why

Mostly based off of yesterday. What do you think?

[Hu Tao]

Theta came out the gates looking town today i gotta admit

I agree

[Hu Tao]

Awh jeezy peeps what is this

The wagon on me is bad, I don't think anyone has even tried to justify a vote on me.

Theta's vote was an OMGUS sourced from me questioning them and holding them to account with their stated overnight actions (which I still don't think they've done btw).

My play is apparently 'just off', and there's some wacky tinfoil shite about me bussing Enchant?
I don't think anyone else has really justified.

Idk this wagon has developed so fast and so easily that it's damn near impossible not to have scum on it - and I think that's Theta.

Why do you think it's Theta?

[Hu Tao]

Is it solely based on OMGUS read?

[Hu Tao]

Nevermind, I'm caught up and see your reasoning. But I don't agree

[Hu Tao]

I think we are missing the fact that Enchant flipped scum and no one is trying to go based off his interactions so far. I'll look into that now

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: redFF

Yawn

His first vote, kind of random when both Theta and Delta were starting to get a bit of traction at this point.

Votecount

VC 1-V

Theta Alpine (3):

Alianna (116), redFF (117), Deltabreedy (139)

Deltabreedy (2):

The Bulge (18), Theta Alpine (141)

redFF (2):

Enchant (153), Mewtaph (167)

Flavor Leaf (1):

KittyTacky (11)

Hu Tao (1):

Doctor Drew (133)

Not Voting (4):

Flavor Leaf, Emperor flippyNips, Dr Easy Bake, Hu Tao (137)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 for an execution.

Modnotes:

• I'm trialing a votecounter. Please tell me if there's anything wrong.
  
• The deadline is due in (expired on 2023-04-29 05:55:00).
  
• The previous VC had an error in the deadline.

[Hu Tao]

Mostly Enchant joking around and voting mew. Not really much to see. But the red vote is interesting. Do we think he would vote his partner there? Or vote a random Townie cause his partner is getting voted?

[biancospino]

Votecount

VC 3-III

Deltabreedy (3 = E-2):

Theta Alpine (682), Hu Tao (702), Alianna (715)

Theta Alpine (1):

Deltabreedy (669)

Alianna (1):

Doctor Drew (678)

Not Voting (4):

bristep123, Emperor flippyNips, KittyTacky, redFF (720)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 for an execution.

Modnotes:

• The deadline is due in (expired on 2023-05-11 00:00:00).

[KittyTacky]

This is probably fine.

VOTE: Deltabreedy

E-1.

@Theta - where was the possible traitor crumb from Kitty?

Okay I feel if I don't come out, Delta will hang.

I am a Village Informed Traffic Analyst. First off, my informed is that there's a traitor and that there's a lazy modifier somewhere. They are not necessarily on the same person.

Then, my results:
N1 - Theta can't privately communicate. That's why I gave up my Theta push and softed it.
N2 - Delta can't privately communicate. Ditto.

If there is even scum between those it has to be the traitor. Possible both are just LHF town.

I also crumbed it here:
[float][/float]

Sorry I wasn't very active yesterday I didn't have the will ta play much now I do.

"ta". O and A are very far from each other, and I'm not doing a Scottish accent gimmick this game.

[KittyTacky]

I think the gamestate is misled enough for me to come out, with 2 of my innos having suspicion circling them, for this to be justified.

[KittyTacky]

I have a soft suspicion there's a hood somewhere in the game however.

[biancospino]

Prodding bristep123.

[Deltabreedy]

Apologies for flaking last night - long day, 19 hours or so and rather than booting up a computer for tapping out a case, I collapsed into bed and slept.

My bad.

The above changes things though, so for now - I'll UNVOTE: Theta

Alianna, Hu Tao and RedFF all hopped on with scant justification - It went from 0-60 real quick with no justifications in the moment. I'd wager at least one scum in there, with how quickly and opportunistic the votes were.

@Red - why did you vote someone to E-2, and then recant after E-1?

This late into the game, naked votes and Bandwagoning doesn't feel town-motivated to me, and I think it developed too fast for scum to control the narrative - the optics of a town!me speedlim would look horrendous on those who facilitated it.

[Theta Alpine]

hmm

i was seeing delta as group scum not traitor so
UNVOTE: deltabreedy

let me think for a bit and see what i can figure out
my gut is still telling me it is not doctor drew and alianna but i feel like i might have to just ignore my gut here

[Hu Tao]

This is probably fine.

VOTE: Deltabreedy

E-1.

@Theta - where was the possible traitor crumb from Kitty?

Okay I feel if I don't come out, Delta will hang.

I am a Village Informed Traffic Analyst. First off, my informed is that there's a traitor and that there's a lazy modifier somewhere. They are not necessarily on the same person.

Then, my results:
N1 - Theta can't privately communicate. That's why I gave up my Theta push and softed it.
N2 - Delta can't privately communicate. Ditto.

If there is even scum between those it has to be the traitor. Possible both are just LHF town.

I also crumbed it here:
[float][/float]

Sorry I wasn't very active yesterday I didn't have the will ta play much now I do.

"ta". O and A are very far from each other, and I'm not doing a Scottish accent gimmick this game.

What's the lazy modify do?

[Hu Tao]

Apologies for flaking last night - long day, 19 hours or so and rather than booting up a computer for tapping out a case, I collapsed into bed and slept.

My bad.

The above changes things though, so for now - I'll UNVOTE: Theta

Alianna, Hu Tao and RedFF all hopped on with scant justification - It went from 0-60 real quick with no justifications in the moment. I'd wager at least one scum in there, with how quickly and opportunistic the votes were.

@Red - why did you vote someone to E-2, and then recant after E-1?

This late into the game, naked votes and Bandwagoning doesn't feel town-motivated to me, and I think it developed too fast for scum to control the narrative - the optics of a town!me speedlim would look horrendous on those who facilitated it.

Well I wanted you since yesterday but the enchant thing happened

[Theta Alpine]

ooh lazy is quite useful for someone to have
it means the role stops working when there is only scum left
does mean we would have to take out the traitor first though to know if there are one or two groupscum left

[KittyTacky]

*only 1 scum left

[Theta Alpine]

ack
only 1 scum left yeah
typos ahoy

[Theta Alpine]

only scum left would be conditional not lazy
and only good in multiball

[biancospino]

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