Amnesiac Mafia: The Movie! That's a Wrap!

[GuyInFreezer]

cause they say they had a neighborhood and scum them wouldn't have them so they are confirmed to each other. they cant be scum unless if both are

Yeah but lovers are not as strong of a role as mason pair due to nightkill risk. That’s why I’m saying lovers aren’t that strong to warrant 4-men scumteam.

[GuyInFreezer]

15p, 11t 4s
D2 mislim 8t 4s
N2 lover death + vig misfire = 5t 4s ELo.
Do we really expect team mafia game to be this swingy

[Frozen Angel]

cause they say they had a neighborhood and scum them wouldn't have them so they are confirmed to each other. they cant be scum unless if both are

Yeah but lovers are not as strong of a role as mason pair due to nightkill risk. That’s why I’m saying lovers aren’t that strong to warrant 4-men scumteam.

we have absolutely no clue about the scum utility in this setup at this time but town power roles cant be removed cause of design and this is extremely town favored + all amnesiac power roles thrown in setup if we believe commuter vig tracker JK

it makes the setup look extremely town sided on surface level, so I think assuming 4 scum isn't that far fetched

[Pink Ball]

That's a scumteam that correctly identifies two independant pair of lovers twice in a row which as pointed out early, it's not likely to happen.

I mean, that scumteam deserves to be on ELo if they actually do that. Or maybe they got there by sheer luck and oh well!

[Frozen Angel]

this discussion doesnt matter though. 3 or 4 scum we need to catch one today regardless

[Drixx]

cause they say they had a neighborhood and scum them wouldn't have them so they are confirmed to each other. they cant be scum unless if both are

Yeah but lovers are not as strong of a role as mason pair due to nightkill risk. That’s why I’m saying lovers aren’t that strong to warrant 4-men scumteam.

we have absolutely no clue about the scum utility in this setup at this time but town power roles cant be removed cause of design and this is extremely town favored + all amnesiac power roles thrown in setup if we believe commuter vig tracker JK

it makes the setup look extremely town sided on surface level, so I think assuming 4 scum isn't that far fetched

I think the fact that the scum team chose to kill the claimed caterer every day the could should indicate to us that they have little to work with beyond their ability to kill us. That's primarily the reason I'm assuming 4 at this time. I also felt 4 was likely earlier in the game due to how I saw the power level at that time.

Does anyone have a chart of all the claims? I think it would help visually to see it and would prefer not to try and go through all the pages again while working, so hoping someone was more responsible than me along the way.

[Frozen Angel]

the chart will be really helpful yea

[Drixx]

I hate it when people become IC or conftown, and then they just want to coast on that and don't want to actually put in the effort of analyzing the game to bring home a win. Right now I get the distinct impression that the "conftown" bunch are just idling this day phase and will happily rope me whenever they get around to it. No actual review of the slots in PoE is happening that I can see coming from them.

[Thestatusquo]

I do not think thats a fair description of what I'm doing at all. You can say I'm wrong about you but you can't fucking say I'm not trying to sort you.

[kuribo]

VOTE:

I hate it when people become IC or conftown, and then they just want to coast on that and don't want to actually put in the effort of analyzing the game to bring home a win. Right now I get the distinct impression that the "conftown" bunch are just idling this day phase and will happily rope me whenever they get around to it. No actual review of the slots in PoE is happening that I can see coming from them.

Right because I'm sitting here arguing with you and with STD for funzies

[kuribo]

Where the fuck did that vote tag come from


UNVOTE:


Just in case

[kuribo]

VOTE:

I hate it when people become IC or conftown, and then they just want to coast on that and don't want to actually put in the effort of analyzing the game to bring home a win. Right now I get the distinct impression that the "conftown" bunch are just idling this day phase and will happily rope me whenever they get around to it. No actual review of the slots in PoE is happening that I can see coming from them.

Right because I'm sitting here arguing with you and with STD for funzies

Scratch that, not even sitting, arguing with people in between doing patient care

[Thestatusquo]

I cant believe you voted that drixx post.

[kuribo]

I cant believe you voted that drixx post.

Can't properly quote sections of a post on mobile anymore but I can fat finger voting tags that I don't even Fuckin use


Thanks Biden

[Drixx]

You guys are too much.

It would help to have the claims all viewable in one post. If we think the Titus/Klick wagons have scum equity, someone who knows how to analyze those maybe could?

[kuribo]

I'm probably gonna go through tomorrow and do what I had intended to do before Klick self-hammered and try to run up a big honking analysis of associative tells for all the living players

Just can't really do that at work

[Pink Ball]

I already did @Drixx

[kuribo]

Associatives aren't perfect and it's a lot harder when you don't have any scum flips but it's better than nothing and it's something I've had success at before so hey

Not something that should be a death sentence for anyone but it's a building block

[kuribo]

And it beats the other thing I'm good at which is screaming nonsensical threats of cartoonish violence and questioning the parental lineage of other posters

[Save The Dragons]

Pb what was your d2 role again
And what was the crumb you left for black

[Drixx]

FMPOV, if we are putting Kuribo, Ircher, TSQ and PB out of the POE, then we have :

Drixx

,

Dunnstral, Frozen Angel, GuyInFreezer, Save The Dragons

If you think there's only 3 scum, one of the above in red isn't scum. If you think there's 4 scum, and you are okay with the assumption on the top line of this post, then there is the game solve.

[GuyInFreezer]

That's a scumteam that correctly identifies two independant pair of lovers twice in a row which as pointed out early, it's not likely to happen.

I mean, that scumteam deserves to be on ELo if they actually do that. Or maybe they got there by sheer luck and oh well!

Only one lover death need to happen.
Twice in a row with 1 vig misfire is scum win at N2.

[kuribo]

FMPOV, if we are putting Kuribo, Ircher, TSQ and PB out of the POE, then we have :

Drixx

,

Dunnstral, Frozen Angel, GuyInFreezer, Save The Dragons

If you think there's only 3 scum, one of the above in red isn't scum. If you think there's 4 scum, and you are okay with the assumption on the top line of this post, then there is the game solve.

Pretend I'm handing you a gun

Which of those four do you start with?

[Thestatusquo]

you are assuming yourself town which I can't do and I don't see why I would have any reason to.

[Save The Dragons]

I think that post was meant for the people in red