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Post Post #5750 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 9:44 am

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In post 5746, Save The Dragons wrote: The logic is

I targeted people I thought were scummy

But nobody seems to care about that
I believe the problem people have is “why do you think scum would target their teammate with a role.”
And my problem is “why would you fire if that night was very possibly a night before elo for you”
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Post Post #5751 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 9:45 am

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Similar to how we don't know for 100% certain that Shea is the caterer, but his approach to the claim today AND the lack of a counterclaim make it likely enough
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Post Post #5752 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 9:45 am

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Because town is playing badly and I trust my team way more than you chuckleheads
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Post Post #5753 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 9:46 am

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In post 5746, Save The Dragons wrote: The logic is

I targeted people I thought were scummy

But nobody seems to care about that
You wasted the tracker by not tracking Black. Even Ceph told you that

You then used a vig on conftown. I'll give you the pass on this because ok sure paranoia about the lovers, but if thought that Shea was scummy on D2 to the point of trying to track him on D2 and got a "no result", why not shooting him then? You knew FB was going to target him so the vig would've gone through and you would be conftown today, or did you stop thinking that Shea was scummy? And why not Drixx which seemed to be a strong scumread on D1 and never actually went back on that read?

Like, a Drixx kill from your part would make so much sense. But I think that you targeted ircher with something else and you were afraid of being tracked, since you had the tracker on D2 and knew its existence
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Post Post #5754 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 9:46 am

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In post 5749, kuribo wrote:
In post 5735, Save The Dragons wrote: How is pb clear
PB isn't 100% clear, but is unlikely to be scum because scum at likely Milo does not typically clear another town player

If anything that's the perfect time for "WTF FIREBRINGER DIDNT TARGET SHEA VOTE SHEA"
What is this I don't even
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Post Post #5755 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 9:47 am

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In post 5753, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 5746, Save The Dragons wrote: The logic is

I targeted people I thought were scummy

But nobody seems to care about that
You wasted the tracker by not tracking Black. Even Ceph told you that

You then used a vig on conftown. I'll give you the pass on this because ok sure paranoia about the lovers, but if thought that Shea was scummy on D2 to the point of trying to track him on D2 and got a "no result", why not shooting him then? You knew FB was going to target him so the vig would've gone through and you would be conftown today, or did you stop thinking that Shea was scummy? And why not Drixx which seemed to be a strong scumread on D1 and never actually went back on that read?

Like, a Drixx kill from your part would make so much sense. But I think that you targeted ircher with something else and you were afraid of being tracked, since you had the tracker on D2 and knew its existence
Next time I'll do the exact same shit I did and you can get over telling me I played wrong
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Post Post #5756 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 9:50 am

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In post 3074, Pink Ball wrote: lent me a hand
This is the crumb @StD it's part of the caterer's flavor
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Post Post #5757 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 9:50 am

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In post 5754, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 5749, kuribo wrote:
In post 5735, Save The Dragons wrote: How is pb clear
PB isn't 100% clear, but is unlikely to be scum because scum at likely Milo does not typically clear another town player

If anything that's the perfect time for "WTF FIREBRINGER DIDNT TARGET SHEA VOTE SHEA"
What is this I don't even
Here try this maybe it'll help you
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Post Post #5758 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 9:54 am

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PB I don't think vigging the caterer's target is a good town play.
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Post Post #5759 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 9:56 am

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In post 5758, Dunnstral wrote: PB I don't think vigging the caterer's target is a good town play.
I don't think it either. I think holstering is the good town play because we could be at ELo and ircher dying would've meant the game fucking ending. Same with Shea. This is NOT a townie mindset, that's my point
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Post Post #5760 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 9:57 am

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Why would scum claim to do something with not a townie mindset
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Post Post #5761 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 9:58 am

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In post 5753, Pink Ball wrote: I think that you targeted ircher with something else and you were afraid of being tracked, since you had the tracker on D2 and knew its existence
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Post Post #5762 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 9:58 am

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What do you think I could have targeted ircher with and why ircher
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Post Post #5763 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 9:59 am

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In post 5717, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 5709, Drixx wrote:
In post 5700, Dunnstral wrote: I fundamentally disagree that you need to iso dive me to decide why to scumread me. You either already think I'm mafia or you're making stuff up. Tell me why I'm wrong.
I already said that I think there are four scum, and in a game with four scum, you are scum. I need to ISO dive you to figure out why my brain prefers you over the others. Please don't misrep me.
I don't think this is a misrep. You ordered me above 3 others but can't explain why. You gave minimal explanation when pressed and continue to say you need to take several days to read my iso to figure out why you think I am mafia. That is how I am seeing this interaction.
I said it would take a couple days to finish all of the ISOs, not yours. You seem awfully desperate.
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Post Post #5764 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 9:59 am

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In post 5763, Drixx wrote:
In post 5717, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 5709, Drixx wrote:
In post 5700, Dunnstral wrote: I fundamentally disagree that you need to iso dive me to decide why to scumread me. You either already think I'm mafia or you're making stuff up. Tell me why I'm wrong.
I already said that I think there are four scum, and in a game with four scum, you are scum. I need to ISO dive you to figure out why my brain prefers you over the others. Please don't misrep me.
I don't think this is a misrep. You ordered me above 3 others but can't explain why. You gave minimal explanation when pressed and continue to say you need to take several days to read my iso to figure out why you think I am mafia. That is how I am seeing this interaction.
I said it would take a couple days to finish all of the ISOs, not yours. You seem awfully desperate.
what would he be desperate for in this context?
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Post Post #5765 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 10:00 am

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In post 5724, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 5719, kuribo wrote: Oh and for a "who would you murk first" tally:

GiF/Drixx- Dunnstral
STD / Dunnstral - GiF
Frozen Angel-
First points out to my theory that GiF/Drixx are paired and Dunn got into wrong place wrong time
Second points out that GiF got into wrong place wrong time
Third points out to nothing

We are not voting either GiF or Dunn today
Fuck off trying to close the POE down. You haven't helped one iota in this game, and all your bullshit has just led to mis-lims.
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Post Post #5766 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 10:00 am

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Why is scum me so threatened by town ircher I have to target him with something
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Post Post #5767 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 10:00 am

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In post 5764, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 5763, Drixx wrote:
In post 5717, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 5709, Drixx wrote:
In post 5700, Dunnstral wrote: I fundamentally disagree that you need to iso dive me to decide why to scumread me. You either already think I'm mafia or you're making stuff up. Tell me why I'm wrong.
I already said that I think there are four scum, and in a game with four scum, you are scum. I need to ISO dive you to figure out why my brain prefers you over the others. Please don't misrep me.
I don't think this is a misrep. You ordered me above 3 others but can't explain why. You gave minimal explanation when pressed and continue to say you need to take several days to read my iso to figure out why you think I am mafia. That is how I am seeing this interaction.
I said it would take a couple days to finish all of the ISOs, not yours. You seem awfully desperate.
what would he be desperate for in this context?
For you to be dumb enough to rope me today and win the game for him?
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Post Post #5768 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 10:00 am

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Why do you need to read through all the isos if they are all confirmed mafia to you Drixx?
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Post Post #5769 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 10:01 am

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Lol flail me baby one more time
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Post Post #5770 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 10:01 am

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STD my issue with your target is that it seems like you haven't thought about what it means to target a scum read of yours that you expect other scum targeting for the kill to work for.

It seems this is first time you're thinking about this which makes me think you might be scum who just claimed roles they got but had trouble with claiming actions cause you never used any actions to begin with and this is really the first time you're thinking about them.
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Post Post #5771 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 10:02 am

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In post 5762, Save The Dragons wrote: What do you think I could have targeted ircher with and why ircher
How about we lim you and we see what you actually used instead of just speculating on what power you have
In post 5766, Save The Dragons wrote: Why is scum me so threatened by town ircher I have to target him with something
Same answer
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Post Post #5772 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 10:03 am

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This is not about who you targeted. Its about did you even do it? cause it seems you never thought about what the catalyst aspect of the vig rule will even mean in action and I doubt all your team mates would miss it too. You wrote this was your team decision right?
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Post Post #5773 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 10:04 am

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In post 5768, Dunnstral wrote: Why do you need to read through all the isos if they are all confirmed mafia to you Drixx?
Because there is a possibility that it's only 3 scum, and in that case one of you aren't scum. And regardless of whether it's 3 or 4, I have to convince the rest of the game not to rope me, because there's a non trivial chance that ends the game.
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Post Post #5774 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 10:05 am

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In post 5770, Frozen Angel wrote: STD my issue with your target is that it seems like you haven't thought about what it means to target a scum read of yours that you expect other scum targeting for the kill to work for.

It seems this is first time you're thinking about this which makes me think you might be scum who just claimed roles they got but had trouble with claiming actions cause you never used any actions to begin with and this is really the first time you're thinking about them.
I was giving a fucking example for christmas sake I didn't mean to imply I knew it would work. I targeted a scumread thinking maybe something good would happen

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