Micro 1079 - dividing connor (game over)

[Skygazer]

VC 1.12

Save the Dragons

(2): Aureal, SirCakez

ActionDan

(1): Invisibility

Aureal

(1): Flavor Leaf

Not Voting

(5): yessiree, ActionDan, usesPython, Merlyn, Save the Dragons

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to reject a player's right to keep playing in this game. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-05-18 09:15:00).

mod notes: 96 / 3 = 32

[Aureal]

Can someone translate Flavor Leaf for me? I think he might be speaking Mafia and I don't understand that language.

He is BASED, let him cook, we bing chilling

I'll read later no cap

Oh no, not you too.

[usesPython]

@mod

V/LA tomorrow

[Merlyn]

I think STD wanting big hood to post more is townie for the same reason I think Cakez finding all 3 small hood scummie is town.

Real question, what makes it more likely that town!Cakez posts that? It's a little generic, wouldn't hurt a partner to say. Why wouldn't scum!Cakez post it?

Merlyn vote on Yessiree is a momentum shifting vote. Wanting to note it because it clashes with where I was here, but it was their entrance really, so not overly scummy, but worth noting.

Merlyn came in either helping their possible partner in Invis or Python.

Can you clarify for me what momentum I stopped when I came in on pg 3?

[ActionDan]

While you're here can you quickly answer my question last page

[Merlyn]

Could we generate some talk and commit to posting a scumread and a townread from each hood?

Here's mine-
little hood: biggest scumread yesiree, biggest townread python
big hood: biggest scumread: Sir Cakez, biggest townread Aureal

Language not withstanding just how strong / confident in these reads you listed?

In the little hood I feel more confident, big hood just my initial opinions because there's so little content to go on. How confident are you in your read on Cakez?

[ActionDan]

Very.

I townread your posts so far now that I am actually looking at them but I am surprised you feel confident in little hood. Your progression there would nit have led me to believe you'd be confident at all.

[Invisibility]

you never responded to my semantics Dan :(

[ActionDan]

Actually I guess you said more confident. Which only means more confident than not confident at all so thats fine.

OK you're town will move on

[ActionDan]

you never responded to my semantics Dan

Last I checked you were voting me for typing one sentence too many

[Invisibility]

you never responded to my semantics Dan :(

Last I checked you were voting me for typing one sentence too many

I'm voting you for typing one sentence that was weird and smacked of bad logic that'd arise from an unnatural thought process!

[ActionDan]

OK. I disagree

[Invisibility]

oh ok cool thanks

[Invisibility]

@Python, why did you switch to Yess when you found out the neighborhoods weren't hand-picked? They weren't randed either.

[usesPython]

@Python, why did you switch to Yess when you found out the neighborhoods weren't hand-picked? They weren't randed either.

It's more that I stopped tring yessiree for the hood composition, it's only later that I started sring him. I think looking at the small hood composition is the wrong way to go about it though, rather look at the big hood:

big hood

- Merlyn
- Save the Dragons
- SirCakez
- Flavor Leaf

BurgerParty

- ActionDan
- Aureal

Don't feel like going through all of STD's/Cakez/Dan's games to see if they've played together so I'm just gonna assume they have but in the Merlyn/Burger/Aureal group it's only:

Aureal/STD (STD replaced in towards the end of d1 and got limmed d1)
Merlyn/STD (Merlyn replaced in after STD died)

Basically, even though it's not a theoretically perfect hood for a given scum pair it's generically good enough that big hood scum has a good shot at deepwolfing regardless of who they are; the only info hood composition gives is that scum are ok with slightly suboptimal hood compositions to reduce the amount of info town has.
In Aureal/Merlyn/BurgerParty worlds none of them need to worry about getting meta'd, especially if we'd decided to focus exclusively on small hood to also break the Aureal/Python, Aureal/yessiree, and Merlyn/Python meta possibilities outing them.
In STD/Cakes/Dan worlds bringing in anyone that could meta them together in the same hood means they can leverage those connections to pocket each other while also taking advantage of scum needing to shoot in big hood anyways if small hood gets limmed to kill anyone problematic

Also maybe randed is the wrong word but I couldn't think of a better one at the time, I guess you could call it a low information hood instead if you want?

-A

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: actiondan

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Aureal

Good enough for me, you convinced me

If yessiree is your top small hood townread why are you voting Aureal for not sorting him?

-A

This is a misrep. Those are your words and reasonings, not mine.

[Flavor Leaf]

AD’s not subtly manipulating the game enough here to be scum. I think he’s just sitting back town.

[Flavor Leaf]

I think STD wanting big hood to post more is townie for the same reason I think Cakez finding all 3 small hood scummie is town.

Real question, what makes it more likely that town!Cakez posts that? It's a little generic, wouldn't hurt a partner to say. Why wouldn't scum!Cakez post it?

Merlyn vote on Yessiree is a momentum shifting vote. Wanting to note it because it clashes with where I was here, but it was their entrance really, so not overly scummy, but worth noting.

Merlyn came in either helping their possible partner in Invis or Python.

Can you clarify for me what momentum I stopped when I came in on pg 3?

You didn’t stop anything, and I don’t believe you shifted it on purpose really.

Your entrance just added another layer to things, and things happened after, like the Yessiree wagon.

[Save The Dragons]

i don't think scum!Ad tries to manipulate the game

[Flavor Leaf]

I specifically don’t think Aureal is partnered with Yessiree because of those things, though. It’s much more likely Aureal, if scum, to be with Python or Invisibility. ThTs just how I’m feeling anyways.

If Aureal was scum with Yessiree, it makes no sense to not comment on them. It makes much more sense to comment on a partner and another townie.

This latch on thing to them not sorting Yessiree is kinda weak, and maybe that can be a supplemental reasoning, but generally scum don’t play like that

[Flavor Leaf]

@STD - I can answer that a little differently.

What are your reads/conclusion of the small hood?

[Flavor Leaf]

OK. I disagree

I concur

[Flavor Leaf]

I have the same read as AD on Cakez, by the way. I mindmelded.

That’s why I think the AD/Cakez/FL Triangle is all town.

Scum wants to break that up. One of Invisibility or Python is scum like 95% of the time here.

[Flavor Leaf]

i don't think scum!Ad tries to manipulate the game

ScumAD always will manipulate a game, even if passively.

All scum players should.