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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 10:59 am

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In post 598, Oclaxian Empire wrote: grim: your vote is still bad fyi, i want to read the game, but i really think ur slot is scum based off p1/p2, and ur vote here.

deadline was paused. the slot was being replaced. why, oh why dear python, would you vote our slot? and, while ur here and we're here, why yessiree?
If you're gonna scumread us for using meta you'll be spending the rest of your days scumreading us :P

yessiree's scummier than Invis so I'm aiming for scum at this point, there's a tonal dissonance between his hood posting and main-thread posting that I can't explain in a town!yessiree game

Dan had early susposting then prodg'd for 5 days and everyone else in the hood was either townier than them or would get resolved overnight anyways

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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 11:05 am

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It's a little depressing we all know I'm dying Night 1 here.
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 11:05 am

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so you want to kill the slot being replaced without letting the replacement have a chance?

and we know how u play as scum. we saw thru u in ice and fire, i just happened to talk kori out of it, so instead i'm gonna let kori read them however they want, and they think ur vote is dogwater. i think ur vote is dogwater. i think ur reasoning of wanting to kill our slot is equally dogwater. so what the slot did jackshit? you have time to reconsider everyone else. u should *only* be aiming for the replacement if there's nobody else u could ever kill and everyone wants to kill the replacement.

u especially do not kill a replacement slot when deadline has been paused, and the slot hadn't been up in the air for 24 full hours. u know there's a scum in ur hood. u think the slot being replaced is scummier than the guaranteed 50/50 u have in ur hood?
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 11:11 am

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In post 602, Oclaxian Empire wrote: so you want to kill the slot being replaced without letting the replacement have a chance?

and we know how u play as scum. we saw thru u in ice and fire, i just happened to talk kori out of it, so instead i'm gonna let kori read them however they want, and they think ur vote is dogwater. i think ur vote is dogwater. i think ur reasoning of wanting to kill our slot is equally dogwater. so what the slot did jackshit? you have time to reconsider everyone else. u should *only* be aiming for the replacement if there's nobody else u could ever kill and everyone wants to kill the replacement.

u especially do not kill a replacement slot when deadline has been paused, and the slot hadn't been up in the air for 24 full hours. u know there's a scum in ur hood. u think the slot being replaced is scummier than the guaranteed 50/50 u have in ur hood?
You should be wagoning big hood d1 in this setup because big hood scum can't get hard bussed d1 without losing the game, I absolutely wasn't expecting to hit scum in big hood d1 in this gamestate but I still want to see if yessiree/Invis took the bait and where they'd vote since if a big hood lim went through d1 they could realistically play for a win in 5p ELO and I don't see us winning if we focus only on small hood

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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 11:12 am

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And I scumread your slot even before y'all replaced in, I don't see why being replaced should change that immediately

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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 11:13 am

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In post 601, Flavor Leaf wrote: It's a little depressing we all know I'm dying Night 1 here.
Just gonna remind you that you can still post your reads in the hood during the night so it aint all bad

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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 11:15 am

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In post 605, usesPython wrote:
In post 601, Flavor Leaf wrote: It's a little depressing we all know I'm dying Night 1 here.
Just gonna remind you that you can still post your reads in the hood during the night so it aint all bad

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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 11:15 am

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In post 604, usesPython wrote: And I scumread your slot even before y'all replaced in, I don't see why being replaced should change that immediately

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If anything, they made it a little scummier.
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 11:17 am

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In post 606, Flavor Leaf wrote: All my reads are already here in the game thread.
Yeah but with the way things are going if we lim small hood today you're gonna have to redo all your work

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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 11:17 am

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In post 608, usesPython wrote:
In post 606, Flavor Leaf wrote: All my reads are already here in the game thread.
Yeah but with the way things are going if we lim small hood today you're gonna have to redo all your work

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Not redo all the work, just progress forward with the new information.
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 11:50 am

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Take my pairings with a grain of salt, but I think I don't make sense with anyone here from an outside perspective. Yessiree/Invisibility while you can make the case, I just think it's something that appears scummy, but has the potential to be more T/S than S/S if anything.

This is more for me to keep up on pairings and my thoughts on it. Normally this level of preflip is mid, but this setup kinda revolves around it.

With a lot of these, my striked out ones have potential, but I'm going with the occam's razor for now. I'm trying to keep my reads out of this and go from an unbiased position, and think strictly gamestate.

yessiree/Merlyn
- momentum shift, put yessiree in danger
yessiree/STD
- Ultimate do nothing sit back squad, which could have potential based on the no choice in ordering.
yessiree/SirCakez
- their big hood push doesn't make a lot of sense here when python is going down. SirCakez looks to be more defending Python, which is solid if Yes/Cakez is scum.
yessiree/FL
- I would have hard hard tied myself to the slot
yessiree/AD
- Have nothing that says it couldn't be it.
yessiree/Aureal
- super weird of Aureal to come after me the way they did if they're partners with yess.

usesPython/Merlyn
- weird to back me up a bit when Merlyn did if their partner was
usesPython/STD
- weird to town both myself and aureal and not do too much when python is going down.
usesPython/SirCakez
- I've made my case on this. Idk if I believe it right now, but it's here.
usesPython/FL
- super hard bus requirement
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- Similar to the above, but I still get some pings of possibility, but that might be paranoia. It doesn't feel like Python really voted AD until they needed to do something, and it could have heated up for distancing purposes. This is similar to my Cakez read, but it's a bit tinfoil. However, new replacement slot coming in at them and adding pressure is bold, but depending where they end up, it might just be a facade. We'll see where AD slot goes.
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- hard tied together, which could be similar to my reasonings for yessiree/FL, but since I was pushing both of them, I can't count it out yet.

Invisibility/Merlyn
- It was early game, so not too much merit, but Invisibility had a wagon when Merlyn came in and went Yessiree. That was momentum shifting, and did move things away from Invisibility.
Invisibility/STD
- If I remember correctly, Invisibility was one of the main people on STD, and then they're talking to them now trying to find their space, so I feel it's not S/S.
Invisibility/SirCakez
- have nothing to say about this pairing, but nothing to write it off either.
Invisibility/FL
- We doubled down on Python together which is really odd if Python flipped town.
Invisibility/AD
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Invisibility/Aureal
- they gave a town lean to Aureal, and while I did feel Aureal was skirting around something early, I do see that, so I think it's more likely an Invis pocket if Invis is scum than a S/S interaction.


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Python/Cakez
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Python/Aureal
Invisibility/Merlyn
Invisibility/Cakez


I think the scum team is almost always just in this.
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 11:51 am

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Obviously for your own accord, if you want to, put me with some of the slots in there, but I know it's not happening, and I don't really think there's all that strong of a reason for it bar 'FL hard defended Yes' or 'FL and Invis ganged up on Python together'. Which are fine reasons, but I think they're also lightweight anti partner reasons.
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 11:57 am

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In post 610, Flavor Leaf wrote: Yessiree/STD
Yessiree/AD
Python/Cakez
Python/AD
Python/Aureal
Invisibility/Merlyn
Invisibility/Cakez
If I add my own personal reads into it

Python/Cakez
Python/AD
Yessiree/AD
Invisibility/Cakez

with the caveat that I admit the three I took out all have one strong reasoning for being scum together, but going with gut over logic.

Yessiree/STD - the sit back and let town take care of themselves, to the exactness of not picking hoods makes sense here.
Python/Aureal - it's too on the nose. I'd have to have been too correct. I'm not quite sure I was, and Aureal came off townie to me in our exchange after a second.
Invisibility/Merlyn - The early game momentum shift vote moved away from Invisibility big time.

But against that logic with my reads in it is why I took those 3 out specifically. While those are all solid reasons, I just am not personally feeling it based on my reads on the slots from other bits.
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 12:04 pm

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So I do think Big Hood comes down to AD slot or Cakez, and we have less than 24 hours, but I think the fade should be within one of those two or Python.
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 12:07 pm

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In post 613, Flavor Leaf wrote: So I do think Big Hood comes down to AD slot or Cakez, and we have less than 24 hours, but I think the fade should be within one of those two or Python.
I'd prefer to shoot AD/Oclax but Cakez is also doable, haven't seen him really do much this game

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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 12:08 pm

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In post 598, Oclaxian Empire wrote: your vote is still bad fyi, i want to read the game, but i really think ur slot is scum based off p1/p2, and ur vote here
what about that vote is scummy?
Invisibility is actually AWESOME!
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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 12:11 pm

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I've hit a wall.
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 12:12 pm

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what are your thoughts on Cakez, Invisibility?
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 1:49 pm

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he's okay I guess. I see the thoughts being processed
Invisibility is actually AWESOME!
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 1:49 pm

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if there weren't two seconds left in the day it would be funny to vote the Oclaxian Empire
Invisibility is actually AWESOME!
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 1:55 pm

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In post 619, Invisibility wrote: if there weren't two seconds left in the day it would be funny to vote the Oclaxian Empire
Why do you need more time to vote Oclax? Just flash wagon them if you want, 24 hours is more than enough time to get it done

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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 1:56 pm

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thank you for the inspiring words VOTE: Oclax
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2023 1:59 pm

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VOTE: Oclax
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