Micro 1080: Brass and Shrapnel - Game Over!

[Alianna]

Yeahhh, sorry about the inactivity.
I'm finding this game a little difficult to get into.
Could have something to do with the fact that the hydra's got ~30% of the posts in the thread and it feels like a lot of us are just spectators (myself included, that's not an accusation).
Maybe it's just because, like I said, I haven't really gotten into the game, but a lot of the stuff we're bickering about also feels pretty NAI.
Merlyn wagon is pretty meh.

Yeah, I get that but we have to get content going somehow. What do you think of GS's mech strat they outlined earlier in 134? This question is open to anyone btw.

Some of it's going over my head maybe. The first paragraph is about if we can win in one day, which I skipped through bc I don't care about that. But the rotational part is what I'm not sure I get.

I don't understand the rotational part either. What's the good of rotational targeting when we're all killing roles and some of us can't even target?

[Alianna]

I could see value in planning night actions though.

[GrandpaSpino]

@Merlyn, your vote was never this super sticky with regards to RVS votes, is there a reason you aren't at least using it more for pressure like you normally do, and hell is there a reason for the general stickiness of your reads in that, it feels like at least in your past 2 games, you were actually using your vote with the questions like this, rather then letting them flop like a wet noodle with this sort of post.

LOL Well I definitely wasn't trying to do any noodle flopping. I don't enjoy interacting with folks on this site who will argue with you endlessly and escalate till you're in a battle for pages with them and I could see that's how it was going to go with GS. I'm not someone who will be having a 5-page fight in these games regardless of alignment. It's not fun for me and I play here for fun.

nah -- i hate that shi too -- it gets annoying to talk about petty stuff and stuff that wont progress the game. thats what it feels like coming from u

-mo

pedit: dont steal my idea >:(

[GrandpaSpino]

Like, I don't even have a good idea about who to vote for rn, and that's because the game is only about GS and I while scum lurks in the background and takes advantage of what was likely a TvT spat.

probably the only good townish post u have made so far lol

-mo

[Alianna]

I've got another idea but I need to go do some math. Please hold.

[GrandpaSpino]

Yeahhh, sorry about the inactivity.
I'm finding this game a little difficult to get into.
Could have something to do with the fact that the hydra's got ~30% of the posts in the thread and it feels like a lot of us are just spectators (myself included, that's not an accusation).
Maybe it's just because, like I said, I haven't really gotten into the game, but a lot of the stuff we're bickering about also feels pretty NAI.
Merlyn wagon is pretty meh.

Yeah, I get that but we have to get content going somehow. What do you think of GS's mech strat they outlined earlier in 134? This question is open to anyone btw.

Some of it's going over my head maybe. The first paragraph is about if we can win in one day, which I skipped through bc I don't care about that. But the rotational part is what I'm not sure I get.

thank u for bringing that up

i was gonna do it eventually

and the rotational targeting is just the default that everyone results to in a game of pr madness to eventually resolve prs during the night -- if u can think of something better pls tell me but planned night actions should always be the plan here

-mo

[Merlyn]

@MOD- speaking of our hydra, can we get a prod on GrandpaSpino?

um its literally been less than 24 hours and my partner is vla so

-mo

I apologize, but I see your last post as on the 15th and I also didn't see any VLA notices so

[GrandpaSpino]

@MOD- speaking of our hydra, can we get a prod on GrandpaSpino?

um its literally been less than 24 hours and my partner is vla so

-mo

I apologize, but I see your last post as on the 15th and I also didn't see any VLA notices so

oh its been that long? game must have been inactive then lol

sorry

-mo

[Alianna]

What I was thinking of was doing a partial massclaim, but I'm not sure if it's smart to do that or not.
Basically, we'd come up with a predetermined order (sussy bakas first) and claim either group 1 (Vig/Blank Vig) or group 2 (Bomb/SS). I did some caveman math and found that there's about a 66% chance we get meaningful information on which group scum are in, though it might be a little lower if we considered that scum can strategize or if I messed up the math.
I don't think it's too detrimental as scum still have to debate if it's worth it to kill in group 1 or safe to kill in group 2.
Any downsides I'm missing? Someone tell me if this is a terrible idea.

[Alianna]

My issue with rotational targeting is that it seems like a good way to murderize half the town.

[Doctor Drew]

What I was thinking of was doing a partial massclaim, but I'm not sure if it's smart to do that or not.
Basically, we'd come up with a predetermined order (sussy bakas first) and claim either group 1 (Vig/Blank Vig) or group 2 (Bomb/SS). I did some caveman math and found that there's about a 66% chance we get meaningful information on which group scum are in, though it might be a little lower if we considered that scum can strategize or if I messed up the math.
I don't think it's too detrimental as scum still have to debate if it's worth it to kill in group 1 or safe to kill in group 2.
Any downsides I'm missing? Someone tell me if this is a terrible idea.

This is a terrible idea, do better Alianna.

Lol jk.

But, what is sussy bakas?

[Merlyn]

@MOD- speaking of our hydra, can we get a prod on GrandpaSpino?

um its literally been less than 24 hours and my partner is vla so

-mo

I apologize, but I see your last post as on the 15th and I also didn't see any VLA notices so

oh its been that long? game must have been inactive then lol

sorry

-mo

no worries, I have to admit the game did kind of die a bit in your absence

[Merlyn]

But, what is sussy bakas?

bakas that are sus?

[Alianna]

What I was thinking of was doing a partial massclaim, but I'm not sure if it's smart to do that or not.
Basically, we'd come up with a predetermined order (sussy bakas first) and claim either group 1 (Vig/Blank Vig) or group 2 (Bomb/SS). I did some caveman math and found that there's about a 66% chance we get meaningful information on which group scum are in, though it might be a little lower if we considered that scum can strategize or if I messed up the math.
I don't think it's too detrimental as scum still have to debate if it's worth it to kill in group 1 or safe to kill in group 2.
Any downsides I'm missing? Someone tell me if this is a terrible idea.

This is a terrible idea, do better Alianna.

Lol jk.

But, what is sussy bakas?

Among Us reference lol. It means suspicious people.

[Doctor Drew]

But, what is sussy bakas?

bakas that are sus?

I hate you.

Follow up, what is bakas?

Pre Edit: Ohhhh, got it now

[Alianna]

"Baka" translates to "fool."

[Merlyn]

What I was thinking of was doing a partial massclaim, but I'm not sure if it's smart to do that or not.
Basically, we'd come up with a predetermined order (sussy bakas first) and claim either group 1 (Vig/Blank Vig) or group 2 (Bomb/SS). I did some caveman math and found that there's about a 66% chance we get meaningful information on which group scum are in, though it might be a little lower if we considered that scum can strategize or if I messed up the math.
I don't think it's too detrimental as scum still have to debate if it's worth it to kill in group 1 or safe to kill in group 2.
Any downsides I'm missing? Someone tell me if this is a terrible idea.

This is really interesting to me, I'm not the right person to check your math though.

p=edit, oh, baka like japanese for dummy I get it
p-edit 2- nvm

[Doctor Drew]

What I was thinking of was doing a partial massclaim, but I'm not sure if it's smart to do that or not.
Basically, we'd come up with a predetermined order (sussy bakas first) and claim either group 1 (Vig/Blank Vig) or group 2 (Bomb/SS). I did some caveman math and found that there's about a 66% chance we get meaningful information on which group scum are in, though it might be a little lower if we considered that scum can strategize or if I messed up the math.
I don't think it's too detrimental as scum still have to debate if it's worth it to kill in group 1 or safe to kill in group 2.
Any downsides I'm missing? Someone tell me if this is a terrible idea.

This is really interesting to me, I'm not the right person to check your math though.

p=edit, oh, baka like japanese for dummy I get it
p-edit 2- nvm

I want to dislike the idea, but then again my 'Alianna is scum' hat is tough to take off.

I will allow the plan, but keep the maths to people like python.

[Alianna]

What I was thinking of was doing a partial massclaim, but I'm not sure if it's smart to do that or not.
Basically, we'd come up with a predetermined order (sussy bakas first) and claim either group 1 (Vig/Blank Vig) or group 2 (Bomb/SS). I did some caveman math and found that there's about a 66% chance we get meaningful information on which group scum are in, though it might be a little lower if we considered that scum can strategize or if I messed up the math.
I don't think it's too detrimental as scum still have to debate if it's worth it to kill in group 1 or safe to kill in group 2.
Any downsides I'm missing? Someone tell me if this is a terrible idea.

This is really interesting to me, I'm not the right person to check your math though.

p=edit, oh, baka like japanese for dummy I get it
p-edit 2- nvm

I want to dislike the idea, but then again my 'Alianna is scum' hat is tough to take off.

I will allow the plan, but keep the maths to people like python.

Actually, I went and calculated the probability of each individual setup occurring and wrote it all down. Idk why I did that, there was no real reason to. I guess punching numbers into a calculator was more fun than whatever I was procrastinating at the time lol.
I'm not going to post it or anything though.

[Alianna]

And to clarify, is it that you think my plan is actually likely to do more harm than good or is it just a bias towards SRing me?

[Doctor Drew]

And to clarify, is it that you think my plan is actually likely to do more harm than good or is it just a bias towards SRing me?

No I am just over tired and am struggling to understand the benefit of it.

Not saying there isn't a benefit, I think I just need it to be explained to me like I am 5.

[Doctor Drew]

And I wouldn't be me if I wasn't suspicious of you lol

[Alianna]

And to clarify, is it that you think my plan is actually likely to do more harm than good or is it just a bias towards SRing me?

No I am just over tired and am struggling to understand the benefit of it.

Not saying there isn't a benefit, I think I just need it to be explained to me like I am 5.

Group 1 = Vig/Blank Vig
Group 2 = Bomb/SS

In this setup, we've got a 25% chance that there's 3 in group 1 and 4 in group 2, a 50% chance that there's 4 in group 1 and 3 in group 2, and a 25% chance that there's 5 in group 1 and 2 in group 2. And of course, there's always 2 mafia goons, so there's 2 extra claims regardless of what setup we're actually in.
The placement of the extra claims might end up being important. Depending on the numbers, we can gain information on what the scum might have claimed. There is a chance we gain nothing of use, a chance we can confirm one of the groups contains at least one scum, and a smaller chance we can confirm one of the groups contains both scum. I'm not going to go through possible setups/outcomes/strategies unless I need to, scum can do the work themselves.
I'm not dead-set on doing this, it's just an idea.

[Alianna]

And I wouldn't be me if I wasn't suspicious of you lol

Lol fair enough.

[Doctor Drew]

Honestly, I guess anything to get the game going.

I always love taking chances at the very least.