Mafia 2301: Angels and Demons (Game Over)

[mykonian]

Man’s energies all too soon seek the level,
He quickly desires unbroken slumber,
So I gave him you to join the number,
To move, and work, and pass for the devil.

Votecount

Biancospino (4): GrandpaMo, Meuh, Cat Scratch Fever, Doctor Drew
Demona (2): biancospino, Whemestar
Greeting (1): Phir
GrandpaMo (1): Greeting

not voting (3): demona, Frozen Angel, imaginality

With 11 alive it's 6 to eliminate.

[Doctor Drew]

Hmmm, I think I should have kept my vote on the lying mod.

[WhemeStar]

VOTE: Bianco

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Bianco

That is E-1

[WhemeStar]

I’m sheeping you

[Doctor Drew]

I’m sheeping you

You sneaky butthole.

[imaginality]

Imaginalty, what do you think about Grandpa's vote on Bianco?

Initial votes with no reasoning I'm fine with this early on. But the way others piled on to it looks pretty bad.

VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever

@CSF you were concerned about the speed of demona's wagon, what do you think about this one?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I think it's ok, I don't think bianco has been towny yet

[GrandpaMo]

can we hammer bianco

they are either negative utility 3rd party or scum

like im certain

[GrandpaMo]

I’m sheeping you

no be my sheep. im the one who helped u smh

[GrandpaMo]

Imaginalty, what do you think about Grandpa's vote on Bianco?

Initial votes with no reasoning I'm fine with this early on. But the way others piled on to it looks pretty bad.

VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever

@CSF you were concerned about the speed of demona's wagon, what do you think about this one?

I think there is always mafia between CSF and bianco

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Why’s that?

[Greeting]

? yes scums are likely more informed about the mechanics i agree i have played a few bastard games before and moderated others but uh, town also motivated to figure out the mechanics, or at least, this town

Mech spec is good and all, but how do you suggest we should go on about figuring the mechs on page 1? There is nothing to go on about, so any guess rn will be either garbage; or informed by one's pm, which we shouldn't incentive to be outed just because

I agree with this sentiment, but scumreading

demona

for wanting to discuss the mechanics seems really far-fetched.

[Greeting]

eh everyone pivot off demona they are handeling the pressure very well more than i expected

time TO PIVOT TO VOTE: imaginality FOR TOWNREADING ME DAY 1 THATS SCUM AF GOGOGOGOGO

Grandpa doesn't want to be recruited apparently.

And Demona, you phished for info....that is scummy behavior.

And I would argue that getting super defensive off of one vote on page 1 is not handling pressure well.....not to mention the ate.

ngl drew, demona reminds me of me when im town lol .

they might be new

and them defending a vote and u pushing them is obviously going to get them to be defensive. think about it from their perspective, u vote them, they question ur vote and then they just joke and play around then 3 people like question them the same thing. this jsut looks like newb!town defense. ik they might be doing this as scum but i highly doubt it especially if they are a newer person.

demona

is an alt of shiki, she is far from new. She even mentioned it in this game in 24.

[Greeting]

Doctor Drew feel way too aggressive too me. Maybe the type of aggression scum would fake. Grandstanding while pushing on minutae to keep a wagon perpetually viable.

Is this a meta read?

[Phir]

Doctor Drew feel way too aggressive too me. Maybe the type of aggression scum would fake. Grandstanding while pushing on minutae to keep a wagon perpetually viable.

Is this a meta read?

Never.

[Phir]

Biancospino, do you wish to claim?

[Greeting]

@Greeting is your GrandpaMo vote RVS or is there a reason for it?

At the time of casting it was an RVS vote, but I think I’m happy keeping it post-RVS as well.

He hasn't been reading the game thread carefully as shown by him not knowing that

demona

is not a new player. (34)

And made a very weird soft-claim about a post restriction, which, quite frankly, sounds made up.

also i do have like a post restriction. i wont out yet what it is

[demona]

can we hammer bianco

they are either negative utility 3rd party or scum

like im certain

mmm

you're really going to have to convince that biancospino is not town if you want me to hammer

like i don't even think it's a bad wagon or anything but my first instinct here is definitely to advocate for someone to unvote again because i am far from certain and i am not really sure how you are so sure

game feels altogether weird to me like i am missing something because so many players are just voting and little else and now everyone like, comfortable? with e-1 here,

and i guess i do not see why and most of the potential reasons i can think of for why are like, somewhat unlikely to be town reasons

[demona]

you're really going to have to convince that biancospino is not town if you want me to hammer

*convince me

[Greeting]

Doctor Drew feel way too aggressive too me. Maybe the type of aggression scum would fake. Grandstanding while pushing on minutae to keep a wagon perpetually viable.

Is this a meta read?

Never.

I asked, because I had the exact same thought, except for me it is a meta read. Well, a weak meta read, as I only played one game with him. His playstyle struck me as noticeably different to Micro 1076 and this heavy fixation on

demona

at the start felt really bizarre.

[Greeting]

Why is everybody voting for

biancospino

?

[demona]

56 links with what I've been thinking so far, so Phir can be town

i would maybe lean towards agreeing with this yeah

it feels like, like a near carbon copy of phir's initial read of me/someone pushing me from a previous game if phir is who i think they are, which could easily be faked as a scums of course but, like, based on that game i do not really think scum!phir would think i would become like, more elimable as the game went on, nor would i think that scum!phir would think that i would be pushed over there without them providing additional pressure or at least leaving themself the option of possibly hammering,

so it is like, if a scums phir would have likely been thinking it is beneficial to them for me to remain in the game, which seems maybe not so likely to me,

[demona]

So what's Doctor Drew's alignment?

sososo like the push on me felt like, very standard paint by numbers

like

vote me
don't engage to not allow me to be town
then double down citing my reaction to being voted
et cetera

which comes from both towm and scums unfortunately but like, i really dunno how likely it is for a scums to basically say 'calm down if you're town everyone will see that' to me

like, yeah i dunno that strikes me as kinda towny, and also felt like,

true and helpful yeah

but then just voting biancospino because 'i like biancospino wagons' and not unvoting when whemestar sheeped that vote to e-1 is pretty ??? to me or even !!!

[demona]

Why is everybody voting for

biancospino

?

this is mostly why i feel like i am playing a different game from everyone else,

it's like, grandpamo voting and saying it's a serious vote without explanation, then multiple players saying it is an okay wagon/going to sheep, then doctor drew voting because he likes wagons on biancospino? even though he had just questioned the wagon himself and was not given a response that could have potential convinced him or anything, and then whemestar votes and says whemestar is sheeping doctor drew? and doctor drew seems to be just fine with that, and then grandpamo now encouraging hammer even though there's been no explanation provided

Spoiler:

anyways i think this counts for a serious vote right here

VOTE: Biancospino

Goooood evening everyone! Let's catch scum

Have skimmed the game throughout the day and I really don't feel like reading back on it in general, felt kind of blegh
Completely disinterested in a demona wagon though, leaning town on her at the moment (I generally click with her mentality thus far and the frustration feels genuine, though frustration is the easiest emotion to fake as scum) 56 links with what I've been thinking so far, so Phir can be town
I like the vote in 81 and GrandpaMo in general, so I'll sheep
VOTE: Biancospino

bianco seems like a fine wagon atm

VOTE: bianco

Bianco is a better wagon than myko I reckon

And that seems like a bit of a stretch to call Gmo and Demona connected.

It wasn't like a super serious read, just something for me to look back on and think about if either ever flip scum

The mod is a liar, they must go.

Interesting you mentioned connections thought, Imaginalty's last post kinda seemed like THEY could be connected to Demona if one of them were to flip scum

Actually, and you know? Fuck it.....I always enjoy a Bianco wagon......let's giddyup

VOTE: Bianco

VOTE: Bianco

I’m sheeping you