Micro 1080: Brass and Shrapnel - Game Over!

[Merlyn]

Now that 1079 is over that's another reason I'm townreading Merlyn here; not a super fleshed out meta read but I feel like she's responded to pressure differently here

I should just take the town point but in all fairness I struggled to find my groove in Dividing Connor, I'm not unusually a low poster either alignment.

[Skygazer]

hmmmmm

[Something_Smart]

I'm here right now:

Something_Smart
Merlyn
Alianna
T3
Doctor Drew

my readlist looks basically the same except with your name in place of mine. not sure if this is mindmeld or groupthink.

I think we should probably get a claim from T3 before we go too much further?

[Something_Smart]

How so?

maybe overthinking but scum tend to not like to put their partners in null. especially with such a big scum pool, and we know that the partner isn't in the town pool, I would be surprised if GMo didn't try to smuggle in his partner in there for some free distancing.

I guess I could check for any reads in that post that aren't backed up by GMo's previously shared thoughts.

[Something_Smart]

There's some indication for all of them, though no direct scumreads stated on Skygazer and T3 before that post.

I might be persuaded to switch T3 and Drew in my reads, but I don't think it really matters, I think they both should probably be dying before endgame anyway.

[Skygazer]

my biggest concern against eliminating drew is how little he was trying to explain shooting GS. it was such a non answer that I'm tempted to think it could come from town. aaaaaaa

[Something_Smart]

My biggest concern against eliminating Drew is that if he's town he may be able to shoot someone.

In particular if both of you agree to shoot the same target, that puts us in a pretty good spot. If that target doesn't die, that makes it very likely that one of the two of you is scum.

[Merlyn]

My biggest concern against eliminating Drew is that if he's town he may be able to shoot someone.

In particular if both of you agree to shoot the same target, that puts us in a pretty good spot. If that target doesn't die, that makes it very likely that one of the two of you is scum.

But if the target does die, doesn't that put us right back here again? Both saying they shot the same guy?

[Something_Smart]

Yeah, but we gained a lim. Assuming no other shenanigans of course (which is maybe a foolish assumption, but I'm just brainstorming), since we're on evens right now.

[Doctor Drew]

My biggest concern against eliminating Drew is that if he's town he may be able to shoot someone.

In particular if both of you agree to shoot the same target, that puts us in a pretty good spot. If that target doesn't die, that makes it very likely that one of the two of you is scum.

Tbf, we don't know if I have a bullet or not, same goes for sky. Hell we both could be shooting blanks and we have a mysterious third shooter(though I guess odds are pretty low that 3 people shot the same person).

[Alianna]

I swear Jason said something about how GS was better dealt with at night. Let me find it.

[Alianna]

get used to being disappointed in my play! my vote on Grandpa isn't RVS if that means anything

I never see the point of this stuff, like how does playing like this end up being fun?

jason. i like you and i like this.

now let me fuck with you. what does supersaint do?

-mo

why would you like this if your argument is that i'm misrepresenting you (to some extent in that you are clearly implying you are town)?

how is anything i have talked about role pms alignment indictative. like from my pov, i could have done this as town, not geninuly knowing my role INFO until u said something. i knew my role name because i had to confirm it, i just didnt read any of what it is. and then from my pov, i could have done this as scum, trying to fake a townslip? but i dont understand why i would get myself in that mess in the first place knwoing you were already pressuring me

in fact, to give you more context, i didnt even know mafia goon had the rb / doc ability till i read the wiki for the 2nd time. im not saying this to give me a town cred, its just for u to move on because this is discussion that is not gonna progress us lol

Again it comes down to you calling out 2 days as a metric for how long this game will take.

You get Vig, and think we will lim scum first day, surely you think then that it should only take 1 (unless your implying you read the part where it's possible your firing blanks, at which point you have to think about what this setup contains.)

You get Bomb, Bomb is non-standard, so i assume you at least read part of the Role PM and will have read this (Quote is from the wiki)

If you are successfully shot at night

(Blank Vig targets don't count)

, the player to shoot you will also die.

this has so many implications about killing roles, that you probably have to figure out that this game is going to be high kill count and go with 1 day as well.

Supersaint is the one that doesn't match this line of thinking, but your also less likely to be Super Saint over just being scum (average of 1.5 Super saint's in the game, chance for there to be none, also chance for there to be more) this then implying that without considering anything else other then this line of thinking, your better then a coin flip to be scum over town just based on odds.

That said also given that,

i think it's better to deal with something like that at night anyway

, hence the move off of the vote and trying to get information elsewhere.

[Alianna]

I wonder if that was a crumb and our mysterious third shooter is dead.

[Doctor Drew]

Lol, that actually would be funny if the entire town tried to shoot BianMo.

[Skygazer]

I think we should probably get a claim from T3 before we go too much further?

oh i didn't say but i agree w this

[Skygazer]

honestly i'm wondering if a mass claim could break this game in some form but probably not

[Merlyn]

I wonder if that was a crumb and our mysterious third shooter is dead.

Hope you're feeling better!

That looks like a crumb to me- does vig resolve at night before a kill (could Jason have gotten a shot off before being NK'd?)

[Merlyn]

Yeah, but we gained a lim. Assuming no other shenanigans of course (which is maybe a foolish assumption, but I'm just brainstorming), since we're on evens right now.

I'm down for it if we have another strong choice for a lim, otherwise I'm sticking with Drew.

[Skygazer]

also ya that looks like a crumb to me as well

[Alianna]

I wonder if that was a crumb and our mysterious third shooter is dead.

Hope you're feeling better!

That looks like a crumb to me- does vig resolve at night before a kill (could Jason have gotten a shot off before being NK'd?)

Theoretically, killing actions should all resolve at the same time.
I'm feeling a little better, might have some thoughts on this game later tonight.

[Alianna]

honestly i'm wondering if a mass claim could break this game in some form but probably not

I don't know if it breaks the game, but it would allow us to coordinate better.
I also don't know if there's any downsides I'm missing.
I do agree with wanting a claim from T3 though.

[Alianna]

I'm kind of done with readslists, but where I'm at is this: Sky and S_S should live, Merlyn/T3/Drew are within the range of questionable* and I can't make up my mind on the order.

*the range of "questionable" can include anything from a light TR to "CAUGHT SCUM DIE DIE DIE"

[Alianna]

I guess Merlyn's townier than the other two.

[Alianna]

I kind of want to vote T3 here, mostly for mech reasons. A claim from that slot would be good.
Let me check the VC though.

[Alianna]

Doctor Drew (E-2): Merlyn, Alianna
Merlyn (1): Doctor Drew

Not Voting (3): Skygazer, Something_Smart, T3

VOTE: T3

Yeah, I'll change this for now, just because town!Doc might have bullets and town!T3 might be a bomb (but I'm too lazy to go find the posts where people brought those points up).