Pokemon Battles 2 - Attack on Giratina [GAME OVER]

[KittyTacky]

I still think Cakes is scummy for that dummy question and generally isn't doing very much.

VOTE: SirCakez

WTF why are people still hung up on the training dummy question?

Because it really seems like a slip?

[Thestatusquo]

Eh fuck. I knew looking at the phone on my game was a bad idea.

This is why I can't have nice alts.

[Firebringer]

i do find it funny that u have complained about alts and then alt a game

[SquirtleSquad]

When did I complain about alts?

[Firebringer]

i don't remember was years ago

[SquirtleSquad]

No one should ever be worried about me alting. I don't think I've ever completed a single alt game without slipping.

[SquirtleSquad]

anyway how you doing firebringer. Are you still town in light of this momentous alt slip?

[Firebringer]

im very curious if i should keep you in the elite 6 from this revelation not gonna lie

[Flavor Leaf]

im very curious if i should keep you in the elite 6 from this revelation not gonna lie

Eh, they can stay in the elite 6 for now

[Firebringer]

you heard the boss leaf.

ur still in. You can keep your badge and pokeballs

[Flavor Leaf]

On a trial run, i haven’t disliked squirtle this game besides a bit of the not passing vibe check, but that might actually bring them up a little bit in my reads.

Not entirely sure.

So in other words, I guess i get your understanding because through the course of typing this post, I actually started to think on it a little bit, and i have no conclusion with it

[SquirtleSquad]

I have been told that I need to do this so here are the posts I made mistakenly on main

You still haven't apologized for insulting me and then when i got upset about it essentially going 'u mad bro lighten up'

Outside of some barbed words right after it happened i have not treated you differently than i would any other slot in this game.

Eh fuck. I knew looking at the phone on my game was a bad idea.

This is why I can't have nice alts.

[Firebringer]

I think black is town, because I think the things shes focused on seem idk out there.

Like I don't think most of what she's doing is likely to catch scum but I don't really think its the kind of stuff scum would poke at to look like they're trying to catch scum either.

Probably a more town shea read of black here?
He would probably fake a lot more nuance as scum with her.

[Firebringer]

considering black recognized him too and i don't think he changed anything of how playing. (at least i could tell). Probably points more to town too.

Yeah fine with keeping in the elite 6.

[SquirtleSquad]

I'm so fucking sad.

[Firebringer]

i think im kind of wasting my vote on pinkie.
Not because i think pinkie is town but none of his reactions really weakens/strengthens my read. Its just....either he ignores pressure or exaggerates reactions which looks like tilted and the fact he says its an exaggeration doesn't make me go ohh yeah thats townie.

[SquirtleSquad]

Could this be the game where me and FB both actually town read each other and work together with no paranoia? There's no treasury for you to fuck up here.

[Firebringer]

Could this be the game where me and FB both actually town read each other and work together with no paranoia? There's no treasury for you to fuck up here.

excuse me sir. I handled money perfectly fine except for that one incident with the wizard that we will not discuss.

Also i am creating a new treasury with black jack and hookers

[Blue.]

KittyTacky, Titus, Doctor Drew, Invisibility
Pink Ball, Skygazer, Sheepsaysmeep, Firebringer, Flavor Leaf, Chandra Nalaar
NorwegianboyEE, WhemeStar, Not_Mafia, SquirtleSquad
Ranger, Metens, Save the Dragons, Klick, Magical Girl
Black
SirCakez, Patchwork


This is a quick stab at reads, it doesn't really feel like the best sort but really I'm operating on where the names feel right by instinct, and I don't likely anticipate all scum are in the bottom 3 tiers, especially since the middle is mostly full of null/uncertain slots. I could elaborate on these, but it would take more time than I'm willing to put in.

For Flavor Leaf in particular I will say I think his response to Pink Ball was pretty genuine - he had a tough loss and getting pink ball saying effectively "you should be reading me correctly if you're town" likely wounded him a bit. He's good enough to fake that, of course, but I lean toward it being real.

I do think patchwork's case is the worst of the scumreads on me - it's completely incoherent and when I chose to press them on it they could only bluntly reiterate the same banal arguments without so much as a hint of an actual underlying thought process. By contrast Titus and SquirtleSquad feel more believable - Titus's conviction is almost certainly coming from town.

Black is a special case - it looked like she was about to OMGUS me by accusing me of being informed in my reads, only to turn around and accept Pink Ball's explanation for me being town when overall thread sentiment turned out to be toward townreading me. Then when Titus came back to the game and scumread me in her catchup, it felt like Black saw that as an opportunity to start asking questions to try to make me look bad and possibly set up resuming the push on me. I think she's relatively unlikely to be scum with Cakez, though, so probably at least one of those reads is wrong.

[Blue.]

Thought squirtlesquad was someone different than who he is - don't know how that affects my read exactly. Was feeling unhappy to the point of not wanting to play but I'll sleep on it.

[Black]

Pink's reaction to his wagon gives me Team Mafia vibes where he was scum and he used AtE and manufactured anger to make it extremely uncomfortable to continue to push him. I'm not falling for it again

VOTE: Pink Ball

[patchwork]

What am I missing?

You say I "didn't say anything" and did not give an explanation for my read. That's taking issue with my rhetoric. But why is not elaborating scummy?

You accused me of "looking for something to push" - that's a direct quote. I asked why I would be targeting Black in this fashion if that was the case. What point am I missing?

In your own words, you have said that I was "looking for something to push" but also had "no explanation" - how do these go together? Doesn't pushing someone necessarily require explanation if you hope to be persuasive? These ideas, to me, seem to be at odds with one another.


These are all asking you to simply clarify your own thought process, and in response you have just repeated the same banal reasoning toward me. I don't think what I am asking is unreasonable. You are accusing me of something, and I am asking you to explain why you think it is scummy.

OH okay thanks for elaborating
1 - i think it's weird because usually scum will try to find a townie to push and it aligns with what i sort of try to do- lay the grounds for a somewhat weak push. it's weirder because when you were voting black you didn't really contest what she was saying? you just went, oh, you're grandstanding, oh, this is out of bad faith, but never explained why. it just makes me a little more skeptical of your motivation
2 - your questions were kind of missing my point in hand because i didn't think they were responding to what i was tyring to say
3 - they do go together- having no explanation is a hyperbole, sorry. i was just trying to show that from my point of view, your defense on cakez was just generally kind of mediocre and pushing black with little to no reasoning didnt vibe right w me.

sorry for teh short responses, 6am, mafia addiction, etc

[patchwork]

that slot has been extremely underwhelming.

what does this mean

Like I expect a basic amount of scum hunting from each slot and adjust ofc based on player and so if a slot is underwhelming it means it has been doing not enough for me to TR!

oh

[Pink Ball]

Lol I knew it, Squirtle is my boo

[$elene]