Mafia 2301: Angels and Demons (Game Over)

[mykonian]

The lightning’s devastations blaze
Along the thunder-crashes’ way:
Yet, Lord, your messengers, shall praise
The gentle passage of your day.

Votecount

Enchant (1): GrandpaMo
Meuh (1): Greeting

not voting (7): Phir, Meuh, imaginality, biancospino, Doctor Drew, Whemestar, Enchant

with 9 alive it is 5 to eliminate.

[Meuh]

I didn't visit Demona

VOTE: Greeting

[Meuh]

You were

given

a power?

[Meuh]

Actually are you just mime

[Meuh]

This is why jester roles suck

UNVOTE:

[Greeting]

You were

given

a power?

Yes. And the result was you visiting

demona

. She was not visited by anyone else.

[Meuh]

You were

given

a power?

Yes. And the result was you visiting

demona

. She was not visited by anyone else.

Yeah this is just not true
Can anyone attest to giving Greeting a power? I imagine there was no power given

[Greeting]

You were

given

a power?

Yes. And the result was you visiting

demona

. She was not visited by anyone else.

Yeah this is just not true
Can anyone attest to giving Greeting a power? I imagine there was no power given

Please ignore

Meuh

, she is role-fishing right now. Just vote her out, thank you.

[Meuh]

You were

given

a power?

Yes. And the result was you visiting

demona

. She was not visited by anyone else.

Yeah this is just not true
Can anyone attest to giving Greeting a power? I imagine there was no power given

Please ignore

Meuh

, she is role-fishing right now. Just vote her out, thank you.

Are you mime or mafia?

[Meuh]

That's the only role I want outed

[Meuh]

Actually damn this is surprisingly clever if you're maf
It means that flipping you is way too risky because you may be mime, and you could get a mislim on me which would help out a bunch

[Meuh]

VOTE: Greeting
I think you're smart enough not to make that play if you were mime

[Doctor Drew]

Greeting was first on CSF, fwiw

[Doctor Drew]

Oh you are saying Mafia now

[Meuh]

I think this play makes more sense for mafia? For mime!Greeting I think it may be too obvious and fuck him over
Though Greeting/CSF is definitely worth taking a look at

[Meuh]

Greeting was first on CSF, fwiw

This is not true? Pretty sure I started that wagon and I'm like 80% sure Phir was on it first

[Meuh]

*first as in before Greeting, not before me

[Meuh]

The lightning’s devastations blaze
Along the thunder-crashes’ way:
Yet, Lord, your messengers, shall praise
The gentle passage of your day.

Votecount

Cat Scratch Fever (6): Greeting, imaginality, biancospino, GrandpaMo, Enchant, Cat Scratch Fever
Doctor Drew (1): Whemestar
GrandpaMo (1): Doctor Drew

not voting (3): demona, Phir, Meuh

Cat Scratch Fever was eliminated. She was a

mime

. It is now night 1, and will be so for 48 hours.

You are a

mime

.

At night, you can discuss the factional roleblock in this PT. You win when the mimes have been eliminated, but not killed. The game will end when you win. If a partner gets killed when you are still alive, you will also die and lose.

Oh you were probably looking at this, but Phir and I both unvoted near the deadline I think

[imaginality]

Noticed something

@Imaginality

did you have a green check on me during day 1?

As in am I a daycop with a result on you?
Nope. You just make the most sense to me of anyone with your posts. And actually seem to be trying to solve.

is it true that this:

VOTE: grandpamo

is what you want?

You know, I'm contemplating this. Don't see the town motivation to put on this massive waste of time. I do see the Jester motivation if it's what you're alluding to.

1. This may just be spot on
2. Bianco specifically having jester in mind could be leaking from her being mime here?

Agreed about this.

What would work for balance here? 7 town 2 scum 2 mimes? Though that would mean today already ELO if CSF were town rather than mime.

I don't think 6 town 2 scum 3 mimes works for balance. Maybe 6-sk-3 could.

Drew and WhemeStar are my picks for scum; maybe Enchant.

Enchant bianco Grandpa are possible mimes.

Meuh Phir and Greeting can all be town I guess though I want to look more at Phir who's been a bit under my radar.

P-edit wow okay.

I think we need to lim Greeting here. If Greeting flips town we know Meuh is scum. If Greeting flips mafia great! If Greeting flips mime, ehhh not so great buuuuuuttt....

[imaginality]

I think if Greeting were the mime then yeah, they probably don't go quite this blatantly for it.

[imaginality]

VOTE: Greeting

[Greeting]

I think we need to lim Greeting here. If Greeting flips town we know Meuh is scum. If Greeting flips mafia great! If Greeting flips mime, ehhh not so great buuuuuuttt....

This is nonsensical. I have a guilty on

Meuh

, not the other way around. Just eliminate her.

Can someone please tell me what is the rationale behind me being mafia and doing this? If

Meuh

were to flip town, and she will not, I would go down next anyway.

[Meuh]

Noticed something

@Imaginality

did you have a green check on me during day 1?

As in am I a daycop with a result on you?
Nope. You just make the most sense to me of anyone with your posts. And actually seem to be trying to solve.

Ah okay, I was just looking back on your day 1 and noticed you following me around a lot and was hoping that was a sign of you knowing I was town >_>

Spoiler:

VOTE: demona

Completely disinterested in a demona wagon though, leaning town on her at the moment (I generally click with her mentality thus far and the frustration feels genuine, though frustration is the easiest emotion to fake as scum)

My initial vote on demona was a mix of cult meme silliness and it being good to get a wagon going, since her overreaction to a page 1 vote on her felt weird and I wanted to see what happened if more pressure was put on her.

I am not a fan of the AtE and her apparent focus on how she's being read compared with scumhunting. But her post when she was at E-2 asking for unvotes did have a genuine 'nervous town rather than scum' feel to it for me.

VOTE: unvote

Why tf are we considering a hammer this early

VOTE: Whemestar guess I can follow here
Putting anyone on E-1 is completely nonsencsical

Meuh's 140 is exactly what I thought, reading through just now.

I townread Meuh, demona, and Greeting (among other things I don't see scum motivation in questioning Mo's post restriction claim only to townread him anyhow)

Lean town on GrandpaMo (play so far reminds me more of chatgpt than DemonSlayer) and biancospino.

Null on FrozenAngel and Phil.

I think the scum (if 2 scum) are among DoctorDrew, CatScratchFever, and whemestar.

So I guess I'll join this: VOTE: whemestar

I think bianco's reason for thinking I'm town was kinda eh

Bianco is a better wagon than myko I reckon

And that seems like a bit of a stretch to call Gmo and Demona connected.

It wasn't like a super serious read, just something for me to look back on and think about if either ever flip scum

I don't think is likely that CSF is scum if both Mo and Demona are town. Otherwise that would be a pretty useless thing to note.

VOTE: Wheme, should be E-2

Well i guess it's not actually a townread but still feels eh

anyways my post restriction is coming up so ima be coasting

What is it?

I still kinda want to know what the pst restriction is and if it makes sense with his role

The only time I've seen a real posting restriction is where it made sense flavor wise

I could vote wheme but then people would just complain about e-1 again

Scummmmmmmmmmm
VOTE: CSF

I wonder if it's relevant that WhemeStar was actually only at E-3 when CSF said she wasn't going to vote WhemeStar to avoid being yelled at for E-1-ing them.

@Meuh what's your read on WhemeStar?

VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever E-2

If there was scum on WhemeStar it's probably this vote switch to Enchant because I don't think scum!Drew would switch to Mo (if Mo was a likely mislim that would've kicked off after the fake PR stuff).

And... eh I guess scum!bianco might see town!Phir as a possible mislim but CSF's vote on Enchant seems the most likely to be scum trying to get a different mislim going after the first one stalled.

The rolefishing seems bad (narrows down who might be doc, also the 'weird or normal roles' question could help scum with faking claims. Specifically I don't think we should say if there are thematic flavour elements in our PMs or not). But it does seem, particularly demona asking about doc, too blatant for scum to feel comfortable doing it.

This is a pretty weird game to try to read, it feels like listening to people talking underwater. I wouldn't be opposed to limming WhemeStar still (I think the flip would be more informative than waiting to get a read from their posts) but I was suspicious of CSF earlier and the switch to Enchant has pinged me again.

[Meuh]

I think we need to lim Greeting here. If Greeting flips town we know Meuh is scum. If Greeting flips mafia great! If Greeting flips mime, ehhh not so great buuuuuuttt....

Yeah I agree, I think the Greeting lim has to happen and if he's mime then that sucks but it's a risk we'll have to take regardless, I don't think he is a mime either way since the fake guilty is too obvious and with a clear potential backlash

[Greeting]

Anyway, I am off, will be back earlier. Be suspicious of anyone who is trying to get me over

Meuh

today.

The claim I made is 100% serious. If you think more deeply about this, there is no good scum motivation behind me doing this.