In post 414, Abnegation wrote:
@don - your reasons to vote kowah are fair, i just disagree with them. i don't think it's lack of conviction in a no-execution plan that's causing them to abandon the idea and vote people anyway. my impression of their posting is that they see their plan is highly unlikely to go anywhere and find it pointless to keep pressing the issue. to me, that's a plausible mindset to have as town. kowah, feel free to correct me on any of that if i've misread your posting.
It's one way to read it. But i believe post 243 contradicts your logic, as he says he "doesn't want to ruin 8 people's game" for his pushing this plan. If your theory is right and he is town pushing an idea he finds plausible, why would he be worried pushing this further would damage the game? The way he talks about it, it's a strategy that would break open the game, his exact words in his second post. So why would he not be steadfast on such a good strategy? For me, the pressure was starting to mount on him with a small wagon forming, so he tried to go back to tried and truth mafia gaming instead of raising too much eyebrows by having to defend his idea. As scum, you wouldn't want to be put under the spotlight, as town though it shouldn't matter being on e-1 if you were sure of your strategy and wanted it implemented.
Also the way he said 8 people is also suspect to me, as for town!kowah that also includes the 2 scum. Might be a personality thing, but if i had a button that revealed the 2 scum with no strings attached, i would press it as well as post mocking videos after the fact. So unless it's his conscience getting the best of him, why would he be afraid of ruining the game of scum? Maybe i'm overthinking it.
I understand your point. As scum you don't really have a benefit in pushing a dead on arrival strategy with such fervor. Since we've talked about his posts in detail already, i would also say it's important to consider how much of his posting has malice and how much of it has to do with ineptidute.
I know I'm in a very small minority of people that feel the way I do about the game of mafia. In fact I've yet to see anyone agree with me since coming back to this site. If I bring it up, I see if anyone else is interested. It doesn't change my opinion, but do you think if I sat here stomping my feet trying to convince 8 people to play this game way differently than anyone plays this game, that it would be good for this game?
I don't scum read Kowah, I think I have finally settled on that lol.
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
12 hours left on deadline. i'll be around for 3-4 more hours but i doubt i'll wake up before the deadline hits tomorrow.
my vote is unlikely to move at this point.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
Is the VC the same as what you posted earlier, not-Alianna?
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
political clout (e-2): invisibility, appearance, abnegation
donempire (e-2): political clout, kowahbunga, doctor drew
kowahbunga (1): black
doctor drew (1): bingle
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
In post 451, Doctor Drew wrote:
I don't scum read Kowah, I think I have finally settled on that lol.
why is that? is it related to their recent posting?
Yes, and I wasn't feeling too strongly about them either way as well......still not tbh, but leaning more town.
Also VOTE: PC
E-1
I have been leaning towards PC anyways, and feel there is more support here than done
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
In post 457, Abnegation wrote:
i could maybe switch to don, definitely don't tr them even after reading their posts, but this wagon is fine.
why are you voting PC?
Did I miss something? You are voting them as well.
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
In post 457, Abnegation wrote:
i could maybe switch to don, definitely don't tr them even after reading their posts, but this wagon is fine.
why are you voting PC?
Did I miss something? You are voting them as well.
I didn't mean this in an accusation or refutation sense lol. I am just wondering
I just mean why are you upset that someone is voting your, I can only assume, top scumread?
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
In post 461, Doctor Drew wrote:
I just mean why are you upset that someone is voting your, I can only assume, top scumread?
oh I'm not upset at all. Sorry if that was unclear
Then I don't understand your question to her.
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
In post 457, Abnegation wrote:
i could maybe switch to don, definitely don't tr them even after reading their posts, but this wagon is fine.
why are you voting PC?
few things.
- i agreed with the initial push on them by you and invis on page 6. i hate the reactivity tell most of the time but the way it was used there made sense.
- their vote on don was weak (explained that in one of those spoilered catchup posts, forget which one).
- i find their vibes to be questionable. is that a good reason? maybe not lol but it's d1.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
In post 457, Abnegation wrote:
i could maybe switch to don, definitely don't tr them even after reading their posts, but this wagon is fine.
why are you voting PC?
few things.
- i agreed with the initial push on them by you and invis on page 6. i hate the reactivity tell most of the time but the way it was used there made sense.
- their vote on don was weak (explained that in one of those spoilered catchup posts, forget which one).
- i find their vibes to be questionable. is that a good reason? maybe not lol but it's d1.
Speaking about vibes.
Invis is throwing me off right now, I don't get where they are going here......
Pre Edit: Invis, I literally just moved over to PC to vote them, somewhat as a compromise.
Why are you not questioning me about that?
And I am not sure what this all means, just the aforementioned vibes seem askew here.
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
Also I should say that I am feeling very empowered right now after Invis's game that just ended, subbed in and caught scum right away.....despite the scum winning it made me feel good in my vibes first strategy lol.
Also, Alianna, end gamed reminded me of Chatgpt where i had scum dead to rights but scum weaseled their way out of it.
You remember right?
When you were scum?
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
In post 471, Doctor Drew wrote:
Also I should say that I am feeling very empowered right now after Invis's game that just ended, subbed in and caught scum right away.....despite the scum winning it made me feel good in my vibes first strategy lol.
trust in the vibes .
In post 471, Doctor Drew wrote:Also, Alianna, end gamed reminded me of Chatgpt where i had scum dead to rights but scum weaseled their way out of it.
You remember right?
When you were scum?
i think i remember that, yes.
i know you're plotting to get your vengeance one of these days and it makes me slightly paranoid.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
In post 466, Abnegation wrote:
i am questioning why doc took issue with invis questioning me.
i thought that question was a fair one, given that all my reasons were in spoilers.
on the contrary, i actually find it townish for drew to poke on that
In post 466, Abnegation wrote:
i am questioning why doc took issue with invis questioning me.
i thought that question was a fair one, given that all my reasons were in spoilers.
on the contrary, i actually find it townish for drew to poke on that
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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