Mini Normal 2303 [Postgame!!!!]

[Asri Teroka]

Going back to 215. I like HighPrincess and Invisibility for town. It's just a certain townie tone to their posts, especially Invisibility. This leaves Cook and Asri.

For now VOTE: Asri

It's really late here though. I'll have to go more in depth tomorrow. Ciao peeps.

Leaves cook and Asri for what? Your delusions? You sound fake and aligned here, this one is placing you in the 'not taking serious pile.'

This one isn't convinced you actually formed a townread on Erynis.

Furthermore, what you seem to be doing is hunting mis-elims, not scum.

So you must've not read 215...

Spoiler:

Either way this one is suspect of the wagon getting so far so fast on so little reasoning to vote.

Either way this one is suspect of the wagon getting so far so fast on so little reasoning to vote.

agree with you there. i don't know if it's even an issue, but regardless, i think it's respectable to be offended at a wagon on me when the game's barely started

doubt a townie would have lolhammered anyhow

yah

Either way this one is suspect of the wagon getting so far so fast on so little reasoning to vote.

this is reasonable!

Either way this one is suspect of the wagon getting so far so fast on so little reasoning to vote.

agree with you there. i don't know if it's even an issue, but regardless, i think it's respectable to be offended at a wagon on me when the game's barely started

Yes.

Hmm. Somebody here is scum.

I thought this little combo of agreement between you four looked suspicious as all get up. It feels like a pocketing attempt from someone. Invis is town for me, Princess as well, a little less so, but still there. I don't know if I feel like Cook would really be that distraught of having five votes on her early in game. I feel like she's played the game enough to have gone through it more than once. I don't really know what to feel about her right now. I think the concern of the wagon is overblown and I believe a scum or two may have jumped on that sentiment. You actually fit that bill as you were and have been the one on the outside looking in. Kind of poking at the attackers and agreeing with the offended. Judging from your response seems like I might be onto something.

VOTE: Asri

You already voted lol. This one's response is pretty simple, you're grasping at straws. You still feel like chasing mis elims. Perhaps you don't want to push too many towns. Regardless nothing you say has any sense behind it, in regards to this one.

[Asri Teroka]

This one will reply later Black

[ItalianoVD]

Either way this one is suspect of the wagon getting so far so fast on so little reasoning to vote.

agree with you there.

i don't know if it's even an issue

, but regardless, i think it's respectable to be offended at a wagon on me when the game's barely started

So Cook, you say you don't know if it's even an issue. What are you talking about here because isn't what this is all about?

[ItalianoVD]

From Hu Tao...

Spoiler:

Either way this one is suspect of the wagon getting so far so fast on so little reasoning to vote.

Either way this one is suspect of the wagon getting so far so fast on so little reasoning to vote.

agree with you there. i don't know if it's even an issue, but regardless, i think it's respectable to be offended at a wagon on me when the game's barely started

doubt a townie would have lolhammered anyhow

yah

Either way this one is suspect of the wagon getting so far so fast on so little reasoning to vote.

this is reasonable!

Either way this one is suspect of the wagon getting so far so fast on so little reasoning to vote.

agree with you there. i don't know if it's even an issue, but regardless, i think it's respectable to be offended at a wagon on me when the game's barely started

Yes.

Hmm. Somebody here is scum.

Who and why?

I answer it here

[ItalianoVD]

Ugh stupid phone. I answer it in 271.

[KatyKimFanClub]

There's nothing protown about rushing a wagon to E-2 within like 4 hours of the game starting.

I think early wagons are fine, I think e-2 is really not that big of a deal, and I don't think the wagon is 'rushed' - I like the Cook vote

Genuine question, are we all interacting just to have a corpus of information for later days or is there just disagreement from an optimal play perspective on whether an early bandwagon is good or not. It looks to me like Cook was never in any real danger of getting enough votes to be killed and we should all move on.

VOTE: UNVOTE: Cook

It's good to talk. And yeah it seems like HPE doesn't think a bandwagon is very good. What do you think about that?

I intend to formulate some reads of my own and vote by end of day

Do you have anything to say to 221?

To me, it just seems like HPE and others (mostly Black?) disagreed about whether the bandwagon was inherently good or not. Personally, I thought it was fine. If I were someone who wasn't voting yet and I saw that Cook was 5/7 I wouldn't have voted for her and I don't think anyone else would have.

[Invisibility]

It's also a lot easier to point the finger at people when you were off the wagon.

wouldn't this also make you dislike Erinys

[Invisibility]

You already voted lol. This one's response is pretty simple, you're grasping at straws. You still feel like chasing mis elims. Perhaps you don't want to push too many towns. Regardless nothing you say has any sense behind it, in regards to this one.

can you elaborate on what you don't like about Italiano's logic?

[Cook]

Either way this one is suspect of the wagon getting so far so fast on so little reasoning to vote.

agree with you there.

i don't know if it's even an issue

, but regardless, i think it's respectable to be offended at a wagon on me when the game's barely started

So Cook, you say you don't know if it's even an issue. What are you talking about here because isn't what this is all about?

i meant it like "i'm not even sure if i'm right to be concerned about a flash wagon in the first 24 hours".

[iamveryhappy]

you should be concerned.
like literally a flash wagon in 24 hours is really sad

[Asri Teroka]

You already voted lol. This one's response is pretty simple, you're grasping at straws. You still feel like chasing mis elims. Perhaps you don't want to push too many towns. Regardless nothing you say has any sense behind it, in regards to this one.

can you elaborate on what you don't like about Italiano's logic?

Logic?

[fireisredsir]

I like Ausuka's posts so far and I particularly kind of mind melded with these as I was skimming through

I think wagons are protown and the concern feels overblown to me

There's nothing protown about rushing a wagon to E-2 within like 4 hours of the game starting.

I think early wagons are fine, I think e-2 is really not that big of a deal, and I don't think the wagon is 'rushed' - I like the Cook vote

Please tell this one how these posts make Ausuka seem town. They are pretty generic and can be made by either alignment. This one doesn't believe you have enough to be forming that read here.

A lot of people are sheeping your sentiments on wagons and early wagons but forget that randomly running up town can be severely anti town, especially day ones and especially if claims are forced. It's also a good way for scum to pr hunt. So. Black and Italiano straight up agreeing with you, this one notes it.

if the thoughts are generic and anyone could have come up with them, then why are you framing the people agreeing with them as sheeping? i don't think you can have both

either it's an original insight, and people saw it and decided to follow along, or it's a generic thought that a lot of people would naturally agree with

fwiw i think it's the latter

[iamveryhappy]

why is invis defending italiano so badly

[fireisredsir]

I think wagons are protown and the concern feels overblown to me

There's nothing protown about rushing a wagon to E-2 within like 4 hours of the game starting.

I think early wagons are fine, I think e-2 is really not that big of a deal, and I don't think the wagon is 'rushed' - I like the Cook vote

This

And you're also sheeping Ausuka posts that can be NAI and are generic throwaway statememts.

oh. here you even say both at the same time

yea i don't really get how those ideas work together for you

[fireisredsir]

feeling town vibes so far from iamveryhappy and black, maybe hu tao

I have done nothing so far. So why?

your attitude seems unconcerned with feeling any pressure to do anything or look a certain way

which i find tends to be +town

[fireisredsir]

why is invis defending italiano so badly

where do you see that?

[HighPrincessErinys]

Do you and hpe know each other or something?

no. they just kinda started doing this

[iamveryhappy]

why is invis defending italiano so badly

where do you see that?

asking for townvibes i think page 8
I'll put quotes later
this page also has one

[iamveryhappy]

You already voted lol. This one's response is pretty simple, you're grasping at straws. You still feel like chasing mis elims. Perhaps you don't want to push too many towns. Regardless nothing you say has any sense behind it, in regards to this one.

can you elaborate on what you don't like about Italiano's logic?

you literally asked for a candy bar for town vibes?
scum would gain a precious day of survival for doing this, given that we don't know the setups, you may be a doc, a cop, a jk, whatever, it would also kinda stop you from using an investigative role on them, or would encourage you to use a protective role on them.

We were vibing and just flowing with the thread.

these two posts
defending each other, buddying early in-game
rubs me the wrong way

[HighPrincessErinys]

Also going to be real this one has not super parsed most of the discussion since it stopped posting because it's not really sure what we're actually talking about.

[iamveryhappy]

wat

[Cook]

i'm going to reread, i'm having Thoughts about this buddy-buddy stuff

[Asri Teroka]

I like Ausuka's posts so far and I particularly kind of mind melded with these as I was skimming through

I think wagons are protown and the concern feels overblown to me

There's nothing protown about rushing a wagon to E-2 within like 4 hours of the game starting.

I think early wagons are fine, I think e-2 is really not that big of a deal, and I don't think the wagon is 'rushed' - I like the Cook vote

Please tell this one how these posts make Ausuka seem town. They are pretty generic and can be made by either alignment. This one doesn't believe you have enough to be forming that read here.

A lot of people are sheeping your sentiments on wagons and early wagons but forget that randomly running up town can be severely anti town, especially day ones and especially if claims are forced. It's also a good way for scum to pr hunt. So. Black and Italiano straight up agreeing with you, this one notes it.

if the thoughts are generic and anyone could have come up with them, then why are you framing the people agreeing with them as sheeping? i don't think you can have both

either it's an original insight, and people saw it and decided to follow along, or it's a generic thought that a lot of people would naturally agree with

fwiw i think it's the latter

This one has little time for semantics. Basically, agreeing with generic points or using them as the basis for a townread can be sheeping. Black felt more analytic. Italiano was a headnodder.

If Ausuka is town and Italiano scum it is sheeping of generic points to pocket.

Your assertion is flawed in its dualistic exclusionism. Agreement with generic statements is still agreement, this one never said it is alignment indicative but the fact of the matter is it happened.

Furthermore, just because a statement is generic does not mean that it is valid. The underlying issue here is the cook wagon yet you exclude this fact to focus only on whether it is valid for this one to note patterns that might lead to readforming.


This one is curious why you are saying this at all. While you don't feel scummy this is a sidetrack.

[Black]

I like Ausuka's posts so far and I particularly kind of mind melded with these as I was skimming through

I think wagons are protown and the concern feels overblown to me

There's nothing protown about rushing a wagon to E-2 within like 4 hours of the game starting.

I think early wagons are fine, I think e-2 is really not that big of a deal, and I don't think the wagon is 'rushed' - I like the Cook vote

Please tell this one how these posts make Ausuka seem town. They are pretty generic and can be made by either alignment. This one doesn't believe you have enough to be forming that read here.

I do like the Cook wagon but I think there could easily be at least one scum on it. I'm putting HPE and Ausuka on my town side for now. I need to look more at fire's posts but I remember them being mostly fluff (could be wrong, I'm a little drunk)

I like my Invisibility vote atm

Also why do you like the cook wagon wagon what's so likeable about it? Charismatic personalities? Scum have those as well. Nothing else this one saw that's likeable so please share.

Oh this one also has Black under prov town

Asri I'm confused about your progression here. In the first quote it seems like you're suggesting I have an informed read on Ausuka. Where does the townread come from?

[HighPrincessErinys]

wat

This one TRIED but it didn't really understand, only vaguely. It seemed like scumread stuff and more on the whole flashwagons thing though. This is probably because it read while 1) tired from staying up late and 2) tired from having just woken up. It will take a more proper reread later.