Mini Normal 2303 [Postgame!!!!]

[Asri Teroka]

Or theorize?

[Ausuka]

I don't think veryhappy is scum right now

I'm not really trying to predict the entire scumteam - I think the odds of that working this early are very low. But like, there are people like T3 and S_S and Katykim who could easily be scum here because they haven't really done a lot. There are also people like Black who aren't really scummy outright but I'm not townreading at this point. I'm not really close to hard-townreading enough people where I'm running out of potential scum candidates.

[Cook]

ausuka you asked... one question. i missed it. why is that such a big deal to you

It isn't?

then why bring it up twice?

Because I can and because I think it was relevant - I don't think not answering the question is scummy in itself, but it supports the argument of other things, like you not really seeming to actually care that much about sorting the wagon. Like it's possible that you missed the question and you missed my explanation and you decided to include a RVS vote in your POE and you actually did see sorting your wagon as a priority, but in combination these things aren't that likely. Also, twice is like, not a very high amount.

>lays out exactly what i was doing
>"not that likely"

man i’m having a real hard time following this game! y’all are posting so much it’s almost like hyperposting is a way to townlead

"defensive" is a bit of a weird read of that post

agree and i think that maybe my wagon knows something about me

In what way are you having trouble following it? Also like, can you explain what 112 is getting at because I don't think I understand

i couldn't follow if fire, invisibility, and happy were saying

anything

of substance.

112... what do you want me to say?

112 wasn't really a push question, I just genuinely do not understand what you're trying to say. like 'maybe my wagon knows something about me' - what do they know? Is this related to a scumread on happy?

it's not related to a scumread on happy, though now that i think about it...

the partnering issue discredits that theory.

[Asri Teroka]

Ausuka this one agrees team forming can be very bad yet as a topic of discussion it forces people to broaden their answers, if they answer of course.

[iamveryhappy]

Or theorize?

I prefer suggest
I don't think you can theorize I am scum when I scumn't

[Asri Teroka]

But cook and erynis can be scum? This one notes you skip that part of what you call a suggestion.

[iamveryhappy]

fair enough.

[Asri Teroka]

Fair enough doesn't give this one your take on cook and HighPrincessErynis

[Asri Teroka]

Yeah.

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: Cook

This one did almost vote HighPrincessErynis but this is fine.

[iamveryhappy]

my take on them is it
cook seems like a towny slot after the wagon
hpe seems genuinely confused which I do not know if it's a thing that it does normally

[Asri Teroka]

Why do you say this when this one votes? Is the timing a coincidence?

[Cook]

VOTE: Cook

This one did almost vote HighPrincessErynis but this is fine.

why vote?

[iamveryhappy]

Why do you say this when this one votes? Is the timing a coincidence?

did I not read 332 carefully
I thoughted that you wanted takes on both cook and hpe
I was responding to #332 jsyk

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: Cook

This one did almost vote HighPrincessErynis but this is fine.

why vote?

This one knows mis-elims don't happen here day ones, is the philosophy.

Who should this one be voting? Fire and Ausuka are town here.

[Cook]

I don't think veryhappy is scum right now

I'm not really trying to predict the entire scumteam - I think the odds of that working this early are very low. But like, there are people like T3 and S_S and Katykim who could easily be scum here because they haven't really done a lot. There are also people like Black who aren't really scummy outright but I'm not townreading at this point. I'm not really close to hard-townreading enough people where I'm running out of potential scum candidates.

SRing low activity players is a very noncommittal choice there ausuka. actually you're being really middle-of-the-road

[Cook]

VOTE: Cook

This one did almost vote HighPrincessErynis but this is fine.

why vote?

This one knows mis-elims don't happen here day ones, is the philosophy.

Who should this one be voting? Fire and Ausuka are town here.

why is ausuka town

[Ausuka]

I don't think veryhappy is scum right now

I'm not really trying to predict the entire scumteam - I think the odds of that working this early are very low. But like, there are people like T3 and S_S and Katykim who could easily be scum here because they haven't really done a lot. There are also people like Black who aren't really scummy outright but I'm not townreading at this point. I'm not really close to hard-townreading enough people where I'm running out of potential scum candidates.

SRing low activity players is a very noncommittal choice there ausuka. actually you're being really middle-of-the-road

What am I supposed to say, they couldn't easily be scum? SS is locktown because it came to me in a dream?

[Cook]

I don't think veryhappy is scum right now

I'm not really trying to predict the entire scumteam - I think the odds of that working this early are very low. But like, there are people like T3 and S_S and Katykim who could easily be scum here because they haven't really done a lot. There are also people like Black who aren't really scummy outright but I'm not townreading at this point. I'm not really close to hard-townreading enough people where I'm running out of potential scum candidates.

SRing low activity players is a very noncommittal choice there ausuka. actually you're being really middle-of-the-road

What am I supposed to say, they couldn't easily be scum? SS is locktown because it came to me in a dream?

read the people who are present in less "ho hum, you might be scum but might not i don't know" ways

[Ausuka]

I think I've done plenty of that. If anything, I'd be interested to hear *your* reads on the people who are present

[Invisibility]

You already voted lol. This one's response is pretty simple, you're grasping at straws. You still feel like chasing mis elims. Perhaps you don't want to push too many towns. Regardless nothing you say has any sense behind it, in regards to this one.

can you elaborate on what you don't like about Italiano's logic?

Logic?

lol

You already voted lol. This one's response is pretty simple, you're grasping at straws. You still feel like chasing mis elims. Perhaps you don't want to push too many towns. Regardless nothing you say has any sense behind it, in regards to this one.

can you elaborate on what you don't like about Italiano's logic?

you literally asked for a candy bar for town vibes?
scum would gain a precious day of survival for doing this, given that we don't know the setups, you may be a doc, a cop, a jk, whatever, it would also kinda stop you from using an investigative role on them, or would encourage you to use a protective role on them.

We were vibing and just flowing with the thread.

these two posts
defending each other, buddying early in-game
rubs me the wrong way

well this is a little ironic!
I think it's a reasonable point tbh especially since I was supecting Italiano of trying to pocket me. I saw some merit in Asri's view and I wanted them to elaborate while not like, letting Italiano know that the pocketing failed.
VOTE: Italiano

[Ausuka]

Can you elaborate on why you think that was pocketing?

[Invisibility]

pushing invis now
hi
answer my questions here
-what did you learn of the cook wagon?
-do you townread italiano here, and why? I have a suspicion of you two buddying here, what do you say about it?
-whose post do you hate most in this game? (excluding openers so you can't use hu tao's opener as the answer)
-who you suspecting the most? can be more than one, give short reasons/quotes why

cool
hi
okay
-there was probably scum on it which other people have already been over. Ausuka's posts about it have felt pretty reasonable so I think she's kinda towny. Like Ausuka's 157 was reasonable though I don't know how much I agree with it. Ausuka's vote was probably the best justified lol. I have mixed feelings on Cook but her being the target of this wagon probably suggests town
-no. He was trying to buddy me probably.
-128 cuz it really rubbed me the wrong way. It didn't put forth any new content and it just existed to express agreement. Plus a lot Italiano's posts around it seemed like it was trying to butter me up. Also why would I use Hu Tao's opener lol
-Italiano and I already said why lolz

[Ausuka]

Uh I thought invisibility's pivoting of the 'association' theory onto an italiano vote was scummy at first but looking back and at 347 I can actually see why he would think that and it's probably +town

I don't think I agree though, italiano's posts were mostly defending himself from candybargate

[Invisibility]

Can you elaborate on why you think that was pocketing?

yeah sure
I could see why our candy bar discussion would give Italiano the impression that we could be buddies (which I would be cool with in a not-game context but that's besides the point)
126 and 128 felt super unnecessary and seem more to buddy up than to actually move the game forward. They don't really serve town which brings the motivation behind them into question
I know Italiano said 127's "we" was referring to everyone and not just us two (130) but part of me doesn't believe that since it makes less sense to be referring to the whole group and actually even if it was the people in question were us two so it doesn't really matter. It feels like Italiano wanted to group us together.

Hmm. Somebody here is scum.

I like HighPrincess and Invisibility for town. It's just a certain townie tone to their posts, especially Invisibility.

I also feel like Italiano handed me this TR too easily considering he had a group of four suspects