Normal 2302: Magical Girls | GAME OVER

[Thestatusquo]

VoteCount 2.1

Save The Dragons [ 3 ]

towwl, OopsieDaisy, Morning Tweet

Morning Tweet [ 1 ]

Firebringer

Not Voting [ 6 ]

Save the Dragons, Curiouskarmadog, Drippinggoofball, Emperor FlippyNips, Geraintm, sheepsaysmeep

With 10 alive it takes 6 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2023-06-21 16:24:31)

[curiouskarmadog]

Karma is looking golden right now imo, that push felt like too much for a bus imo

caught this quote. That means I am dead tonight. Being on top of all the town charts does that. Well, Ill make the most of it.

If you die tonight, our vig lives another day. That's a win in my books.

I am curious...why post this? I understand the state of the game, why did you feel the need to say this?

[OopsieDaisy]

Karma is looking golden right now imo, that push felt like too much for a bus imo

caught this quote. That means I am dead tonight. Being on top of all the town charts does that. Well, Ill make the most of it.

If you die tonight, our vig lives another day. That's a win in my books.

I am curious...why post this? I understand the state of the game, why did you feel the need to say this?

Why not? I don't see why the post is unwarranted I thought you were genuinely scared of dying lol

[OopsieDaisy]

hey elements would u tell me if ur scum.
Can tell me in our secret pt no one knows about

HA, ha, ha

I claim deathproof cop with a n0 guilty on
Hu Tao
OopsieDaisy
and curiouskarmadog

these were my n0 cop checks
no where does it say ur innocent elements

I'll claim in our super secret chat then

aahahhaaha

What do we think of this? Elements and Firebringer feel like the kinds of players that would do this together as scum

I agree, I'm waiting to see if STD has anything to say once they're not busy but I am v scared of a Fire/El scumteam too.

[curiouskarmadog]

going to do a bit of VC analysis.

550, we were here.
HighPrincessErinys [ 5 ] sheepsaysmeep, towwl, OopsieDaisy, Save the Dragons, Elements
Hu Tao [ 3 ] Morning Tweet, DrippingGoofball, firebringer
DrippingGoofball [ 1 ] geraintm
Morning Tweet [ 1 ] hu tao
Elements [ 1 ] Curiouskarmadog

notable moves...
577, ElementsScum voted HuTown
595, towwl went from Emp(VIG) to ElementsScum
635, OOD left the deflating HPETown and joined the Emp wagon.
644, Towwl join OD on Emp
651 and 652, Emp joins the Elements wagon.

655, we had gotten to here. Elements Wagon was on the move.
Hu Tao [ 3 ] DrippingGoofball, firebringer, Elements
Emperor flippyNips [ 3 ] OopsieDaisy, towwl, HighPrincessErinys
Elements [ 3 ] Curiouskarmadog, Emporer flippynips, hu tao
HighPrincessErinys [ 2 ] sheepsaysmeep, Save the Dragons
DrippingGoofball [ 1 ] geraintm

656, MT votes Emp
676, Sheep on Emp -2
698, OD unvotes Emp, goes HPE
700, Hu unvotes Elements, goes HPE
704, Emp unvotes Elements, goes HPE (man sucks that only town and presumed town made these moves)

706,
VoteCount 1.9
Emperor flippyNips [ 4 ] towwl, HighPrincessErinys, Morning Tweet, sheepsaysmeep
HighPrincessErinys [ 4 ] Save the Dragons, OopsieDaisy, hu tao, Emporer flippynips
Hu Tao [ 3 ] DrippingGoofball, firebringer, Elements
DrippingGoofball [ 1 ] geraintm
Elements [ 1 ] Curiouskarmadog

okay going to skip ahead to when the Elements wagon got a little bigger (902)
799, towwl on Elements
801. OD unvotes Hu goes Elements.
814, I vote Elements
816, HPE votes Elements
819, MT votes counter on Hu (OD signals she will go Hu)
827, Sheep votes Elements
872, STD votes counter. (interesting....follow a rabbit hole 286, where STD firms up his Meh reads, but ignores Elements)
892, OD UNVOTES ELEMENTS TO VOTE HU..with the following reason.

I can't see another player's wagon getting through in 2 hours unfortunately.

(using Sheep's vote count from 834)
elements [ 5 ] towwl, OopsieDaisy, Curiouskarmadog, HighPrincessErinys, sheepsaysmeep
Hu Tao [ 4 ] DrippingGoofball, firebringer, Elements, Morning Tweet
HighPrincessErinys [ 3 ] hu tao, Emporer flippynips, Save the Dragons
DrippingGoofball [ 1 ] geraintm

STD puts Hu on 5 v 5... (even though at one point he stated Elements giving off big scum energy, when pressed could not really explain why that changed)

OD could have stayed...both wagon were at 5v5.

902,
Hu Tao [ 6 ] drippinggoofball, firebringer, elements, Morning Tweet, save the dragons, oopsiedaisy
Elements [ 4 ] towwl, Curiouskarmadog, HighPrincessErinys, sheepsaysmeep
HighPrincessErinys [ 2 ] hu tao, Emperor FlippyNips
DrippingGoofball [ 1 ] geraintm


just by looking at that...

OD and STD look bad. (my gut says at least one of these are scum).

going to ISO them.

[curiouskarmadog]

Karma is looking golden right now imo, that push felt like too much for a bus imo

caught this quote. That means I am dead tonight. Being on top of all the town charts does that. Well, Ill make the most of it.

If you die tonight, our vig lives another day. That's a win in my books.

I am curious...why post this? I understand the state of the game, why did you feel the need to say this?

Why not? I don't see why the post is unwarranted I thought you were genuinely scared of dying lol

So you thought I was scared (who cares?)...as town, wouldnt you want scum to kill me over a vig. why bring attention to it? you could have leaned into it right? Like.."yeah I can see that".

I am sure scum arent stupid, but still.

[curiouskarmadog]

ALSO HU, if you are reading this in the dead thread.

your claim yesterday was an extremely poor play. We might have been able to go Elements yesterday if it wasnt for all the claims. Yours looked bad....I would have had no issue also hammering you yesterday.

moving on

OD

I recall you defending Elements pretty early after I caught him in that lie. Do you recall what games you Iso that led you

Sheep and Elements have made a lot of posts but I'm still yet to see anything that's pinged me towards town or scum for them. It should also be noted Elements is someone I've played with a lot and so I'm very aware their activity early game isn't really indicative of their alignment.

I asked you about your motivations. You lied.

My day 1 play is to get things to happen. If I say my motivation for doing X is to get things to happen it stops getting things to happen in the same way. So of course I lied, just so happened that this was a provable lie

As an fyi for people who want my opinion, this *kind of* checks out. Elements, like me, is someone who wants to push a proactive Day 1, often putting themselves on the line in order to create some form of activity. And you can't pressure someone into a reaction if you vocalise that intention as you vote them, because then they're fully aware of what you're doing.

Imagine if on my Bristar vote, instead of picking out an actual tangible reason to vote them, I just said nothing/an off-hand joke/outed the fact I wanted to see what they'd do if I voted em. Would we have seen the "glib" reaction then? Likely not.

On the other hand, yea El straight up lied about their thought process I can absolutely see why you wanna push this. Plus I think El is kinda scummy this game so far so I've no problem with them being a wagon. Just as someone who's played many games with El I don't find it ultra surprising like this is some out-of-character hand caught in the cookie jar moment. The biggest issue I have is El trying to manipulate me into preaching a stance that would benefit them with the activity thing :3

El has much more tangible things to be suspicious of, what with the open manipulation of me with the activity point and the lying about reads thing. But El is being an proactive player today poking/prodding/getting info from other players, and that's a great asset to have in our town.

there are more examples of how you say Elements was scummy, then defend him or write off their behavior.

[curiouskarmadog]

Also for what it is worth,

did a quick meta on Gera (his "I hate Day One" whining, left a bad taste in my mouth). It looks like as scum and town, he mentions he doesnt like day 1.

[DrippingGoofball]

Town

Emperor flippyNips
Towwl
Morning Tweet
OopsieDaisy
Hu Tao
DrippingGoofball
sheepsaysmeep
Save The Dragons
Merlyn

geraintm
curiouskarmadog

bristep123

Scum

Elevated chance of a buddy in the bolded names.

any particular reason you have me bolded besides me voting for you yesterday?

I just think Element would bus a buddy, probably not put then at the bottom though. I forget who replaced bristep, but that's not where the scum is in that list.

[OopsieDaisy]

ALSO HU, if you are reading this in the dead thread.

your claim yesterday was an extremely poor play. We might have been able to go Elements yesterday if it wasnt for all the claims. Yours looked bad....I would have had no issue also hammering you yesterday.

moving on

OD

I recall you defending Elements pretty early after I caught him in that lie. Do you recall what games you Iso that led you

Sheep and Elements have made a lot of posts but I'm still yet to see anything that's pinged me towards town or scum for them. It should also be noted Elements is someone I've played with a lot and so I'm very aware their activity early game isn't really indicative of their alignment.

I asked you about your motivations. You lied.

My day 1 play is to get things to happen. If I say my motivation for doing X is to get things to happen it stops getting things to happen in the same way. So of course I lied, just so happened that this was a provable lie

As an fyi for people who want my opinion, this *kind of* checks out. Elements, like me, is someone who wants to push a proactive Day 1, often putting themselves on the line in order to create some form of activity. And you can't pressure someone into a reaction if you vocalise that intention as you vote them, because then they're fully aware of what you're doing.

Imagine if on my Bristar vote, instead of picking out an actual tangible reason to vote them, I just said nothing/an off-hand joke/outed the fact I wanted to see what they'd do if I voted em. Would we have seen the "glib" reaction then? Likely not.

On the other hand, yea El straight up lied about their thought process I can absolutely see why you wanna push this. Plus I think El is kinda scummy this game so far so I've no problem with them being a wagon. Just as someone who's played many games with El I don't find it ultra surprising like this is some out-of-character hand caught in the cookie jar moment. The biggest issue I have is El trying to manipulate me into preaching a stance that would benefit them with the activity thing :3

El has much more tangible things to be suspicious of, what with the open manipulation of me with the activity point and the lying about reads thing. But El is being an proactive player today poking/prodding/getting info from other players, and that's a great asset to have in our town.

there are more examples of how you say Elements was scummy, then defend him or write off their behavior.

The games that led me to these conclusions aren't forum games. They were irl games which weren't recorded or anything.

[OopsieDaisy]

Karma is looking golden right now imo, that push felt like too much for a bus imo

caught this quote. That means I am dead tonight. Being on top of all the town charts does that. Well, Ill make the most of it.

If you die tonight, our vig lives another day. That's a win in my books.

I am curious...why post this? I understand the state of the game, why did you feel the need to say this?

Why not? I don't see why the post is unwarranted I thought you were genuinely scared of dying lol

So you thought I was scared (who cares?)...as town, wouldnt you want scum to kill me over a vig. why bring attention to it? you could have leaned into it right? Like.."yeah I can see that".

I am sure scum arent stupid, but still.

I'm sorry for caring about people's feelings lmao. I don't think that hard about what I post I just post, and I don't think scum are stupid enough to leave Emperor alive another day.

[OopsieDaisy]

Do you think an Elements wagon would've gone through yesterday if I hadn't switched?

The reason I switched was to ensure we actually voted someone out. I supported the Elements wagon at multiple points throughout the day, a lot more than like anyone here bar you.

What makes Firebringer, someone who actively argued against the Elements wagon at the end of Day 1, or Tweet, someone who also refused to enter that wagon and stayed hard locked onto HT, any more townie than me in that scenario?

[DrippingGoofball]

I can't see ckd being scum given all that transpired.

[curiouskarmadog]

Karma is looking golden right now imo, that push felt like too much for a bus imo

caught this quote. That means I am dead tonight. Being on top of all the town charts does that. Well, Ill make the most of it.

If you die tonight, our vig lives another day. That's a win in my books.

I am curious...why post this? I understand the state of the game, why did you feel the need to say this?

Why not? I don't see why the post is unwarranted I thought you were genuinely scared of dying lol

So you thought I was scared (who cares?)...as town, wouldnt you want scum to kill me over a vig. why bring attention to it? you could have leaned into it right? Like.."yeah I can see that".

I am sure scum arent stupid, but still.

I'm sorry for caring about people's feelings lmao. I don't think that hard about what I post I just post, and I don't think scum are stupid enough to leave Emperor alive another day.

thats fair...I just like to know people's motivations for posting what/when they do.


thoughts on the other stuff I posted?

[curiouskarmadog]

sorry missed this post.

Do you think an Elements wagon would've gone through yesterday if I hadn't switched?

The reason I switched was to ensure we actually voted someone out. I supported the Elements wagon at multiple points throughout the day, a lot more than like anyone here bar you.

What makes Firebringer, someone who actively argued against the Elements wagon at the end of Day 1, or Tweet, someone who also refused to enter that wagon and stayed hard locked onto HT, any more townie than me in that scenario?

yes, I think it could have...or at least we will never know.

And scum frequently bus their partner (See my complaint about STD too) only to bail when it counted. you did that. the only reason I am not voting you RIGHT NOW, is because we were down to the wire.

and dont distract. I am not talking about Fire or Tweet. I am talking about you. Im also looking at them

what do you think is a better scum play...

scum who buses their partner, but finds a reason to get off when they can.

or scum who says their partner isnt scum.

[OopsieDaisy]

sorry missed this post.

Do you think an Elements wagon would've gone through yesterday if I hadn't switched?

The reason I switched was to ensure we actually voted someone out. I supported the Elements wagon at multiple points throughout the day, a lot more than like anyone here bar you.

What makes Firebringer, someone who actively argued against the Elements wagon at the end of Day 1, or Tweet, someone who also refused to enter that wagon and stayed hard locked onto HT, any more townie than me in that scenario?

yes, I think it could have...or at least we will never know.

And scum frequently bus their partner (See my complaint about STD too) only to bail when it counted. you did that. the only reason I am not voting you RIGHT NOW, is because we were down to the wire.

and dont distract. I am not talking about Fire or Tweet. I am talking about you. Im also looking at them

what do you think is a better scum play...

scum who buses their partner, but finds a reason to get off when they can.

or scum who says their partner isnt scum.

Ok my plane is setting off now so I can't full respond, but I completely disagree with the wagon going through. Speak soon <3

[HighPrincessErinys]

Bah!

-Edited by Shea

[curiouskarmadog]

dead its tell no tales.

[Thestatusquo]

A simple bah post is allowed by the rules, I have edited out the portion of the post that was more involved than that.

[Emperor flippyNips]

Hmm Idk how to feel about the daisy case cos she’s the whole reason I scum read element

[sheepsaysmeep]

Hmm Idk how to feel about the daisy case cos she’s the whole reason I scum read element

yeah I think daisy looks good for starting up the wagon yesterday

[DrippingGoofball]

scum who buses their partner, but finds a reason to get off when they can.

or scum who says their partner isnt scum.

Can I vote for

scum who buses their partner, backs up, and rolls over them again with extreme prejudice

[Save The Dragons]

my reads have been awful so far this game

i wanna look over some people and see if i still feel as good about them.

Merlyn seemed pretty bad but firebringer has been a little better, and everyone else i tr at one point or another so i'm kind of lost.

will try to iso some people before i go to survivormeet

[Save The Dragons]

speaking of which i think you already know mod but

V/LA 6/15-6/20

expect very little from me i will be very busy

[sheepsaysmeep]

V/LA 6/15-6/17