Pokemon Battles 2 - Attack on Giratina [GAME OVER]

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: Meuh

[Save The Dragons]

Though I do think the early-mid votes that gave momentum to the wagon definitely warrant a second look

who

[Firebringer]

is no one gonna claim to have fought Titus

[Enchant]

I fought Titus.

[Enchant]

Maybe.

[Meuh]

Though I do think the early-mid votes that gave momentum to the wagon definitely warrant a second look

who

4540

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V OTECOUNT 2.4
E LIMINATION V OTES
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES
Lady Lambdadelta (6)	WhemeStar, Flavor Leaf, SirCakez, Ranger, Doctor Drew, ItalianoVD
Malakittens (3)	Chandra Nalaar, Firebringer, Titus
ItalianoVD (2)	SquirtleSquad, Sheepsaysmeep
Doctor Drew (2)	Skygazer, Lady Lambdadelta
Meuh (2)	Black, Save the Dragons
Black (1)	Meuh
Flavor Leaf (1)	Enchant
NOT VOTING: KittyTacky, Not_Mafia, Malakittens, NorwegianboyEE
With 21 alive, it takes 11 votes to flip! Deadline: (expired on 2023-06-25 15:05:00)
Notes: All alive players gain +1 DEF. You may fight the training dummy at any time.

[Meuh]

What makes me scum here? I thought we were leaving the Meuh wagon behind

[Doctor Drew]

drew im trying to follow ur progression on LLD slot please break it down to me.

cause you are she is scum. A few days ago you were she is town because PB rage, which i get u see as NAI now, but how does that now become a 100% scum for u.

I kinda answered it yesterday when you were questioning my read on you. I didn't initially like how you acted, and to an extent how FL acted, when LLD repped in. Once I had the few days during the night phase to think about things I looked at it again I felt better about you, and wanted some clarification about PB raging(i assumed you just meant it was town indictive), I looked at LLD in a different light(and a good chunk of it was my updated read on PB).

At that point it wasn't even a hard scum read, but I didn't like the flag policy wagon building on Metens, and insaidninwas going to sheep Ranger.....so I figured good to see what happens here.

Now her reaction to some votes is very revealing, imo.

[Meuh]

I think I’ve been clearly solving here

[Save The Dragons]

k why am i the one you want to go for if you have a list of people on 2 wagons you think have high scum equity that i'm not on

d1 you did nothing and patchwork didn't look great

i admit i've skimmed some of d2 so i'll go back and see what you've posted but all i remember is "lol std"

[Meuh]

Read the last like 50 posts of Black’s ISO and she is solving in 0 of them
Can we lim

[Flavor Leaf]

bruh when someone says "I do not enjoy this thing you do" responding "have you considered enjoying it more?" is just about as cringe as you can get.

Hell ya you know i have

[Flavor Leaf]

LLD's entrance and actions are suspicious - but the fact 11 players went along with it is way more suspicious.

Kinda where I’m starting to lean more than LLD right now

[Save The Dragons]

what else have you done that you consider solvey besides 4540

[Black]

yawn

more votes on italiano or meuh

more votes on std or black

What makes me scum here? I thought we were leaving the Meuh wagon behind

I think I’ve been clearly solving here

This is kind of a weird thought progression imo. If me and StD are your biggest scumreads, why are you trying to convince us you've been solving? Why are you asking us why you're scum? I feel like the natural town!Meuh reaction here would be to discredit us as scum pushing your wagon

[Black]

Read the last like 50 posts of Black’s ISO and she is solving in 0 of them
Can we lim

The fuck? Are we reading the same ISO?

[Meuh]

k why am i the one you want to go for if you have a list of people on 2 wagons you think have high scum equity that i'm not on

d1 you did nothing and patchwork didn't look great

i admit i've skimmed some of d2 so i'll go back and see what you've posted but all i remember is "lol std"

I’ve been more checked in D2 than D1 (as was promised) so yeah it’s probably worth a look
also regarding why I’m not pushing for those players, I just don’t find people in those positions as scummy as you or Black and you’re both also positioned in way I can see scum be (4550)

[Save The Dragons]

Actually now that I look at it, std’s the only player off the Magical Girl wagon I scumread which I think raises his scum equity a bunch
I also don’t townread Titus but I’m nebulous on her
(N_M’s always a question mark but I recall liking his ISO)
Everyone else I townread

this isn't solvey you just pull a sr out of nowhere

[Save The Dragons]

i'm not really interested in LLD or magical girl tbh

i wish mg would do more but this resignation isn't really screaming scummy to me

i literally explain why i'm off the MG wagon which is probably more than you can say for other people so why am i the scummiest?

[Meuh]

Read the last like 50 posts of Black’s ISO and she is solving in 0 of them
Can we lim

The fuck? Are we reading the same ISO?

There’s reads but no townie thought processes behind them, paired with plenty of NAI general commentary on the gamestate
Feels like busywork

[Black]

Read the last like 50 posts of Black’s ISO and she is solving in 0 of them
Can we lim

The fuck? Are we reading the same ISO?

There’s reads but no townie thought processes behind them, paired with plenty of NAI general commentary on the gamestate
Feels like busywork

You said there wasn't solving in there, but there is. I'm sorry if you don't like what my solving looks like. Or maybe you just don't like that my solving has led me to believe you're scum?

[Meuh]

yawn

more votes on italiano or meuh

more votes on std or black

What makes me scum here? I thought we were leaving the Meuh wagon behind

I think I’ve been clearly solving here

This is kind of a weird thought progression imo. If me and StD are your biggest scumreads, why are you trying to convince us you've been solving? Why are you asking us why you're scum? I feel like the natural town!Meuh reaction here would be to discredit us as scum pushing your wagon

I tend to engage with other players under the assumption that they’re townies acting in good faith and regardless, I don’t have a hard time believing I’m wrong about at least one of you.
My posting forces you guys into one of 3 options:
1. Not reconsider or engage with me and make it clear you’re not actually trying to sort me
2. Establish a real reason as to why I’m scum which I can then address and read you guys better off of
3. Reconsider my alignment and end up sorting me correctly
It’s the best thing to do here! What does brushing you guys off actually do for the town agenda?

[Meuh]

Read the last like 50 posts of Black’s ISO and she is solving in 0 of them
Can we lim

The fuck? Are we reading the same ISO?

There’s reads but no townie thought processes behind them, paired with plenty of NAI general commentary on the gamestate
Feels like busywork

You said there wasn't solving in there, but there is. I'm sorry if you don't like what my solving looks like. Or maybe you just don't like that my solving has led me to believe you're scum?

I really don’t think that last sentence is genuine I’m not gonna lie.
and brushing it off as being just the way you solve is odd and unconvincing, playstyles vary but townies tend to show pieces of their solving, of their thought processes. It’s the best way to sort a townie and I see none in your ISO. If the way you solve involves you not showing you’re town in the slightest then I’ll take the L but I kind of doubt that’s the case.

[Titus]

Rathe and Black good game state lims.

NM and Metens policy.

Drew and Metens good game state lims.

Why is Metens a good game state lim

LLD wagon is horrible. It might not start if scum weren't scared.

How is Metens a good policy and a good gamestate lim? Metens is only a good lim for scum.

A wagon on obvtown sprouted up in response to getting pressure there. Someone wanted to protect a useless slot and punish people who make moves.