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Ausuka she/herTeam Mafia Winnershe/her
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Shrug, I'm not going to pretend to be more confident on italiano than I am. He probably is being pushed by scum if that's what you mean but scum looooove to bus d1 they do it all the timeIn post 631, Asri Teroka wrote:
Seems good but a bit wishy washy on Italiano. This one expecting a townread here from Ausuka, this is not itIn post 597, Ausuka wrote: I think invisibility is probably just town. I'm less sure about italiano - I think the reasons most people are scumreading him, like the mason claim or whatever, don't make much sense, but like he isn't super towny eitherReach for my hand, I'll soar away into the dawn-
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Ausuka she/herTeam Mafia Winnershe/her
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My thoughts on him are coloured by like
In the last game i played with him he was town and got eliminated in d1 so obviously he gets pushed as town too and his most recent scumgame was an Elo Sweep so maybe i want to townread him but like instinctively a lot of his stuff this game feels more straightforward in this game vs that one where I couldn't really understand his perspective at all. Fwiw his response to my question was fine
I don't really have much interest in voting him on d1 so I'm fine with putting him in the pool of 'we can wait and see what he does on his own'Reach for my hand, I'll soar away into the dawn-
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Ausuka she/herTeam Mafia Winnershe/her
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I think the cook wagon is good
I think black votes are also good but I would prefer if we got some wagons goingReach for my hand, I'll soar away into the dawn-
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Ausuka she/herTeam Mafia Winnershe/her
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I totally retract the townread on hu tao btw
Rn the players I'm comfortable saying I townread are {asri tenoka, HPE, iamveryhappy, invisibility}
I want to townread t3 but it might be just 'he sides with my positions on day 1' so i'm waiting to see more from him
Italiano and SS are on the more towny side of neutral
fire and hu tao I am like ~watching~
KKFC and black fall into range
and cook is the most scummy i thinkReach for my hand, I'll soar away into the dawn-
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In post 630, Asri Teroka wrote:
Also not liking this.In post 595, Black wrote: I think one of Invisibility/IVD might be scum but definitely not both
I was gonna ask this tooIn post 636, Hu Tao wrote:
Why? What's wrong with what they said?In post 630, Asri Teroka wrote:
Also not liking this.In post 595, Black wrote: I think one of Invisibility/IVD might be scum but definitely not both-
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I'm not sure why Hu asked but I'm asking because that's a perfectly normal thought to have and I'm not sure why you don't like itIn post 637, Asri Teroka wrote:
Why ask?In post 636, Hu Tao wrote:
Why? What's wrong with what they said?In post 630, Asri Teroka wrote:
Also not liking this.In post 595, Black wrote: I think one of Invisibility/IVD might be scum but definitely not both-
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I don't really understand this. The votes on me are forming a wagon so what's with the "but" here?In post 654, Ausuka wrote: I think the cook wagon is good
I think black votes are also good but I would prefer if we got some wagons going-
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To me it feels like Invisibility is doing more this game than she normally does. I don't really know what a scum Invisibility game looks like but I've seen a few of her town games now, and in those games I don't remember her providing so much analysis. To me it feels like she's trying to get townread here when I didn't really get that vibe from her other games-
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I don't think 2 votes is a wagon and the venn diagram of potential cook and black voters is close to a circleReach for my hand, I'll soar away into the dawn-
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Make it one thenIn post 660, Ausuka wrote: I don't think 2 votes is a wagon and the venn diagram of potential cook and black voters is close to a circle-
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Ausuka she/herTeam Mafia Winnershe/her
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What is Cook your roleblocker or somethingReach for my hand, I'll soar away into the dawn-
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CuteIn post 662, Ausuka wrote: What is Cook your roleblocker or something
If you think I might be scum, you like the Black votes, and you want more wagons, then I see no reason for you to not vote me here-
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ItalianoVD HeMafia ScumHe
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In post 624, Cook wrote:
"someone who wants to not die"In post 623, ItalianoVD wrote: I think they could be partners based off of 419 and 420. It's a weird interaction for me and I'm wondering why Cook would say it the way she did. "Scum or Town Pr?" It's kinda specifically suspicous. Then happy's response just seems disjointed. I read it multiple times and sounds like what should be in a scum PT.
I get it and it does make sense but saying it the way you did and where you did in the context of this game made me frown. I won’t not believe your answer, but I’ll have to see what happens as the game progresses.In post 625, Cook wrote: that's what scum or town pr is for meI wonder if MH coached Italiano at all or if that was just rock solid scum play start to finish.- MUSHSHAGANA
I don’t feel like this specific town could have beaten this scum strategy played as strongly as it was.- MUSHSHAGANA
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I’m trying to play this game. What are you doing?In post 626, iamveryhappy wrote: wat is italiano doing
if that slot is scum I'm basically spewed townI wonder if MH coached Italiano at all or if that was just rock solid scum play start to finish.- MUSHSHAGANA
I don’t feel like this specific town could have beaten this scum strategy played as strongly as it was.- MUSHSHAGANA
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I think the way Ausuka is posturing around the pressure on me feels scummy. It feels like she's standing on the sidelines encouraging people to jump on my wagon, but she won't get on herself because she's afraid to be associated with the mislim
I feel like scum is most likely going to do what she's doing here which is pick one person that seems mildly scummy and then push them for the majority of D1. What does scum!Ausuka gain from hopping on my wagon? She is forced to fight on two fronts, and she risks the possibility of the Cook wagon falling apart
I feel like town!Ausuka wouldn't mind hopping off the Cook wagon for a bit to pressure someone she's suspicious of but unsure about. I mentioned this earlier but Ausuka seems to really care about her optics. Like I said this isn't inherently scummy, but I do think it's scum motivated here
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This makes sense. I guess I'm confused what made you trust Invis so much. Was it really that you two had a fun moment together early in the game? To me that just doesn't seem like a natural reason to townlock someoneIn post 623, ItalianoVD wrote: Well I'm pretty good at townreading players and I trust in it a heck of a lot more than my scumreading ability. It helps me solve games more than scumreading people ever could. I actually get asked in every game I play why I so easily townread slots. Experience will do that, what else can I say?-
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Re: 585 I always get amused/frustrated when people either meta me or ISO me and come out with a wrong read. I was gonna respond to the post line by line, but I chose not to because sarcasm and arrogance is a terrible trait, but it’s the only way I would’ve probably responded to it.
There was a lot of “I agree with this” “I like this” but in the end you voted me. Like you said you were gonna ISO me because people were asking you what you thought of me and it felt like the ISO was done to prove your scumbias instead of trying to see what the situation actually was.I wonder if MH coached Italiano at all or if that was just rock solid scum play start to finish.- MUSHSHAGANA
I don’t feel like this specific town could have beaten this scum strategy played as strongly as it was.- MUSHSHAGANA
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Ausuka she/herTeam Mafia Winnershe/her
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Why should I leave the biggest wagon in the game on my biggest scumread??? I don't really buy that this is a genuine line of thoughtReach for my hand, I'll soar away into the dawn-
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I mean are you trying to end the day now or what? What is the point of staying on the Cook wagon the entire day if you are town?In post 669, Ausuka wrote: Why should I leave the biggest wagon in the game on my biggest scumread??? I don't really buy that this is a genuine line of thought-
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The point is that cook is the scummiest player in the game and I want there to be a proper wagon there??? Literally this entire narrative is desperately trying to avoid the massive elephant in the roomReach for my hand, I'll soar away into the dawn-
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The “why did Firebringer get a townread” was nonserious and Invis’ response was also nonserious (candybargate, I like that btw lol), so I was like well dang this person gets it. And as I previously mentioned I haven’t seen scum be able to fake that very well. On the flip side had Invis been scum, I think my initial playful “Fire is town” would’ve been handled a bit differently and had I saw that I would’ve handled it differently.In post 667, Black wrote:
This makes sense. I guess I'm confused what made you trust Invis so much. Was it really that you two had a fun moment together early in the game? To me that just doesn't seem like a natural reason to townlock someoneIn post 623, ItalianoVD wrote: Well I'm pretty good at townreading players and I trust in it a heck of a lot more than my scumreading ability. It helps me solve games more than scumreading people ever could. I actually get asked in every game I play why I so easily townread slots. Experience will do that, what else can I say?I wonder if MH coached Italiano at all or if that was just rock solid scum play start to finish.- MUSHSHAGANA
I don’t feel like this specific town could have beaten this scum strategy played as strongly as it was.- MUSHSHAGANA
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Ausuka she/herTeam Mafia Winnershe/her
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VOTE: Black
Congrats you have what you want
I think you are trying really hard to look like you don't care about being voted and therefore you are towny because I really struggle to see this coming from any other mindsetReach for my hand, I'll soar away into the dawn-
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Oh one thing I did wanna respond to was the “happy because he rolled scum” that Black and I think happy both said. Uhh nah, you guys don’t me but those that do know I do not like playing for the bad guys, so I would’ve definitely not been happy here and doubt I could’ve faked it that well.I wonder if MH coached Italiano at all or if that was just rock solid scum play start to finish.- MUSHSHAGANA
I don’t feel like this specific town could have beaten this scum strategy played as strongly as it was.- MUSHSHAGANA
I'm frustrated with myself that I can't get any sort of read on you.- Redados
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