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Post Post #975 (ISO) » Wed Jun 14, 2023 3:40 pm

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Day 1 Votecount 7
Arsi Teroka (3):
HighPrincessErinys, Cook, T3


Cook (2):
Invisibility, ItalianoVD
ItalianoVD (2):
iamveryhappy, fireisredsir
iamveryhappy (1):
KatyKimFanClub
Ausuka (1):
Black
KatyKimFanClub (1):
Ausuka
T3 (1):
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Not Voting (2):
Something_Smart, Hu Tao

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to reach majority.

There are (expired on 2023-06-20 13:00:00) remaining.
Last edited by sheepsaysmeep on Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:59 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Post Post #976 (ISO) » Wed Jun 14, 2023 3:51 pm

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i was gonna say my reads didn't change a ton after that mess but i guess i was considering trying to figure out if asri is ever anything like this as scum. i did not actually attempt to figure out if they are. but i did think about it

so maybe i lost a little faith in that read. still pretty sure they're town though

black still town imo, she felt the most like she was having the reactions that i was

ausuka can have a little crumb of a townread as a birthday treat i guess

happy and cook posting were both a little hmm for me so they lost a little of their townleans

HPE meh. will leave alone for now

idr anyone else who was involved sorry if you were forgettable

still want to lim italiano most, also didn't really like his latest "we're not gonna policy asri!!" and then disappearance
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Post Post #977 (ISO) » Wed Jun 14, 2023 4:25 pm

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Sorry peeps, I'm not really mentally checked in right now. I need to chill for a moment. I called myself catching up and just got overwhelmed, work has been really taking a lot out of me so thinking and analyzing is tough right now. Try not to read too much into this because it is nothing to read into.
I wonder if MH coached Italiano at all or if that was just rock solid scum play start to finish.
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I don’t feel like this specific town could have beaten this scum strategy played as strongly as it was.
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Post Post #978 (ISO) » Wed Jun 14, 2023 6:15 pm

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apparently I'm on can yeet regarrdless of aliggnment
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Post Post #979 (ISO) » Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:14 pm

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In post 966, Asri Teroka wrote:
In post 961, T3 wrote:
In post 957, Asri Teroka wrote:
In post 835, T3 wrote:
Why can’t this just be Black making a legitimate case against Italiano? And what exactly is Black distracting from?
You are asking this while voting Black.
"Why can't I ask people why they are voting someone to gain an accurate picture of their reads"

No, this one has had enough of people talking circles around themselves.

You are scum T3, the town drive you'd be showing just ain't there.

Your ISO is basically Italiano defense, Cook shade. Little else. Nothing on Black. Nothing on Asri. Appears when convenient.

This entire thing about 'this was a test' is just caught scum doing what caught scum do.

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Very probably town

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iamveryhappy

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T3
These reads are faker than
-my love life
-what my name suggests how I feel
-I forgot what is in this one
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Post Post #980 (ISO) » Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:52 pm

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In post 979, iamveryhappy wrote:
These reads are faker than
-my love life
-what my name suggests how I feel
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In post 966, Asri Teroka wrote:

Can yeet regardless of alignment:


iamveryhappy

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Post Post #981 (ISO) » Wed Jun 14, 2023 8:18 pm

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Hmm actually you might just be town. If this one says they like you do their reads at least become half real?
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Post Post #982 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2023 2:41 am

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I don't really know what to make of all the Asri shifts. They all happened so fast. One moment he's pushing me as definite scum and locktowning Ausuka, the next moment I'm probably town and Ausuka still needs to be sorted

I feel like this is just a chaotic townie. But I do think there's a possibility that he's scum and he's doing all of this to seem like a chaotic townie. I started to think what a scum PT with Asri would look like during this and I feel like his teammates would have had to encourage him to lean into the chaos and keep it going for town cred

I'm fine trusting my townread for now but the whole thing has made me a little paranoid
I scumread Alianna.

ALL HAIL THE SCUM QUEEN!
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Post Post #983 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2023 2:52 am

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Shitty read I think Asri/Hu Tao is not S/S.

I will have non-shitty things to say in a bit
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #984 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2023 4:49 am

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In post 981, Asri Teroka wrote: Hmm actually you might just be town. If this one says they like you do their reads at least become half real?
Nope
I might classify stuff as buddying/pocketing
And also you asked here
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Post Post #985 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2023 5:11 am

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i can't even tell what's real anymore

welcome back something_smart
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Post Post #986 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2023 7:46 am

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In post 981, Asri Teroka wrote: Hmm actually you might just be town. If this one says they like you do their reads at least become half real?
insane post
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Post Post #987 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2023 7:48 am

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In post 952, Asri Teroka wrote: VOTE: ItalianoVD

Just end the day already the lurkers ain't showing up.
realy hate this post
you seem to have jumped on the wagon looking for a hammer
"just end the day already" is just weird
I understand that from both a town pr and a scum lens
but I don't think town would be like this normally
if this is villy that's like really bad
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Post Post #988 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2023 7:55 am

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i don't mean to derail, but i'd like to approach this from the opposite direction:

who do we generally think is town
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Post Post #989 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2023 7:57 am

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In post 988, Cook wrote: i don't mean to derail, but i'd like to approach this from the opposite direction:

who do we generally think is town
This feels like something scum would ask
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #990 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2023 8:03 am

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I feel like townhunting is only stronger in later stages of the game
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Post Post #991 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2023 8:03 am

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but still
Importantly
I'm cowonftown
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Post Post #992 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2023 8:09 am

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So uh sorry if the ethics of this are meh but everyone who has ever played with him knows already so I don't think there's much point in hiding this and there's not like there's a rule against it.

I played a game, mini normal 2294, with asri tenoka who was playing on the account Comus. I was mafia in that game, and I tried to push him at times. I'm not sure what I would have done as town - I probably would have been less suspicious of him, but I think I would have still expressed that idea at points. Anyway, when I tried to push him, gimli said this;

"many words but there's an underlying passivity and like playing reactionary that doesn't fit with his town self and is clearly not how he is playing here

the complete very sure solves fit with his towngame in hms mutiny"

I think his play here matches with the description of his town meta, and also his play in that game - in a very similar manner, there's a lot of pivoting where he is like 100% sure of completely different solves and changes his reads in a snap in a way that feels inconsistent.

It's possible that he saw this and is now trying to play like he did in that game but imo I would be pretty shocked if he went from playing a pretty passive and normal towngame to perfectly replicating his towngame right away, especially when that style of scumplay seems to have like, worked out for him in the past. I also think this background just kind of invalidates the argument for scum asri in general which seems to be based around their posts not making sense.
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Post Post #993 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2023 8:10 am

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In post 969, T3 wrote:
In post 963, Ausuka wrote: What do you think of the reactions you got?
tbh I was mainly looking for a reaction from Black, I didn't really get much of a reaction from her. Cook's reaction felt weird tonally but that's it. Asri's reaction was interesting because she suddenly got way more assertive about her read on Black. Previously she had expressed a scumread on Black, but only when I voted Black did Asri vote Black. It seems like Asri was trying to pocket me and/or was reluctant to vote Black for fear of getting pushback.
Do you think Asri's play this game looks like a player who shies away from doing things for fear of getting pushback? Why would she feel that way about something like voting Black but not going all topsy-turvy on Italiano or whatever?
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Post Post #994 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2023 8:11 am

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In post 988, Cook wrote: i don't mean to derail, but i'd like to approach this from the opposite direction:

who do we generally think is town
me

Tbh i'm not sure if a poe on d1 is the most effective strategy but I'd like to see what you have in mind
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Post Post #995 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2023 8:22 am

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In post 994, Ausuka wrote:
In post 988, Cook wrote: i don't mean to derail, but i'd like to approach this from the opposite direction:

who do we generally think is town
me

Tbh i'm not sure if a poe on d1 is the most effective strategy but I'd like to see what you have in mind
today feels like it's been going on forever

excuse me for playing it like it's a later day, please?
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Post Post #996 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2023 8:24 am

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You are not excused
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Post Post #997 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2023 8:24 am

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:(
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Post Post #998 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2023 8:28 am

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wat
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Post Post #999 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2023 8:28 am

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lemme just shitpost
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