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Post Post #1053 (isolation #200) » Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:48 pm

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In post 1052, Doctor Drew wrote: Lol, check the wording of that answer.

Told you,.you can't trust the mod.
@mod does that mean in a hypothetical situation, if person x gave something to person y mid game, will you notify person y as soon as possible during midgame?
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Post Post #1056 (isolation #201) » Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:53 pm

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because you were told that you were given the power in the beginning of night 1.

I want to know how that is possible -- if during night 1, someone gave you a power and you received it during night 1. that just wouldn't make sense and. I don't believe that just happens in a normal mafia game, bastard or not.

I just want to know how the procedure of receiving something works either during the night or day.

and assuming what the mod had said, that means if you were given the power in the beginning of night 1 that means someone gave you that power night 1 , which idk how that works which can mean u are lying
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Post Post #1057 (isolation #202) » Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:54 pm

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so by asking that question, we can understand how the mod handles receiving items from players as such. as different mods do it differently and can impact the game heavily i believe.
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Post Post #1059 (isolation #203) » Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:58 pm

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Greeting, what was your result again? And what did it say?
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Post Post #1104 (isolation #204) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:36 am

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In post 1095, Phir wrote:
In post 1090, Enchant wrote:
In post 1088, Phir wrote: And you assume scum/sk are not informed about the mimes(question for everybody).
I am assuming nothing

More dumb questions please?
Plz unvote this doesnt feel natural from bianco could be meuh/bianco. I hope you're town lol.
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Post Post #1105 (isolation #205) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:38 am

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In post 1103, Enchant wrote: Btw i am not against hammering per se.

But if person who gifted watcher sees it and doesh't out, it's on them. Unless they are evil but oh well.
why would scum gift watcher? that's a thought I had as well. I highly doubt thats the case.

AGAIN IF U GIFTED WATCHER PLS OUT NOW. IF U DONT UR ANTITOWN
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Post Post #1106 (isolation #206) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:39 am

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In post 1102, biancospino wrote: Well that game of chicken got cut off too early but I rest my case.
VOTE: Phir
even though you look horrible now, I think we always shoot between greeting and meuh
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Post Post #1111 (isolation #207) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:43 am

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I think mech play is to always vote the guilty.
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Post Post #1114 (isolation #208) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:45 am

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In post 1112, Enchant wrote:
In post 1110, Phir wrote:
In post 1101, Enchant wrote: what you mean above

You are pagetop
U need to think in four dimensions
Who you think are mimes
I still don't understand why we are mime hunting. isn't that scum job for now? we need to get scum out first and worry about mimes later. isn't that the strat?

pedit: then why vote greeting?
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Post Post #1117 (isolation #209) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:50 am

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In post 1116, Enchant wrote:
In post 1114, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 1112, Enchant wrote:
In post 1110, Phir wrote:
In post 1101, Enchant wrote: what you mean above

You are pagetop
U need to think in four dimensions
Who you think are mimes
I still don't understand why we are mime hunting. isn't that scum job for now? we need to get scum out first and worry about mimes later. isn't that the strat?

pedit: then why vote greeting?
Because i am irrational idiot of course!


... Or 1vs1 doesh't really work in jester games.
I guess the possibility that multiple factor can be influencing these results but idk i just always assume it is right . if its wrong, u get greeting tmr unless new info is found for ex
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Post Post #1119 (isolation #210) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:54 am

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In post 1118, Enchant wrote: Makes sense.

I still vote Greeting.
I actually believe greeting way more. how come?
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Post Post #1120 (isolation #211) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:55 am

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also it seems there is a split in who believes who , meaning probably there is one scum in between
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Post Post #1127 (isolation #212) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:11 am

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In post 1124, Greeting wrote: For the record, I am against whomever gave me the one-shot Watcher power revealing themselves.
this can confirm you. if no one outs, then it could be a possibility that you're lying.
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Post Post #1128 (isolation #213) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:11 am

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In post 1125, Phir wrote:
In post 1122, Greeting wrote:
In post 1081, Phir wrote: Greeting, how do you feel bout that Enchant vote?
I don't really care. I've played with
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numerous times and he's always hunting me for whatever reason so his vote on me is probably NAI. He has never been very useful in game-solving either. Kinda like a slightly more talkative Not_Mafia.
I have been in situations where both enchant and not mafia's reads as town have been exactly right, uncannily so, but that's meta so whateber to each their own. A lot has happened so love to jear more but im out for now.
this is very true haha
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Post Post #1160 (isolation #214) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 9:32 am

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so no one is claiming that they gave power to greeting? I do not think greeting would just fake that then. something fishy is going on.


this makes me believe greeting more and more. can't believe I'm agreeing with drew
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Post Post #1165 (isolation #215) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:10 pm

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In post 1164, Enchant wrote:
In post 1160, GrandpaMo wrote: so no one is claiming that they gave power to greeting? I do not think greeting would just fake that then. something fishy is going on.


this makes me believe greeting more and more. can't believe I'm agreeing with drew
Never heard about complicated lie, where you add more details to it in hopes it look more belivable or what
but isn't that a lie that can expose them. Unless it starts becoming more Wifom at this point. i don't like this reaction from you enchant
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Post Post #1166 (isolation #216) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:11 pm

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also while phir is playing differently, they are playing way better. but this difference is to put into question
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Post Post #1167 (isolation #217) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:12 pm

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In post 1162, Meuh wrote:
In post 1160, GrandpaMo wrote: so no one is claiming that they gave power to greeting? I do not think greeting would just fake that then. something fishy is going on.


this makes me believe greeting more and more. can't believe I'm agreeing with drew
No one giving Greeting a power makes Greeting town? :facepalm:
I could keep digging through Greeting's posts to see what makes them scummy but I don't think this would actually help anyone in solving the game and would just output a bunch of noise
Kind of done arguing this point, I think the way Greeting's played around this is extremely scummy but we're not getting anywhere

May dig through some ISOs to get a better grasp on the rest of the game cause I'm feeling lost in that sense, I think a full readslist is pointless (game is too weird for that) but I wanna look over Phir/Drew/imaginality I think. May not be tonight but at some point
I want u to do that
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Post Post #1168 (isolation #218) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:12 pm

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I think both u and greeting have a possibility of both being town. im just not in the right headscarf to explain it
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Post Post #1170 (isolation #219) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:41 pm

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In post 1169, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1168, GrandpaMo wrote: I think both u and greeting have a possibility of both being town. im just not in the right headscarf to explain it
Well put on the correct headscarf, because you can't just say that without explaining why.
since no one spoke up about giving greeting that power, it is possible that scum has an ability that gives town a false power where the power, in this case a watcher ability, always produces a negative result, in this case a guilty result on the target, Meuh.
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Post Post #1174 (isolation #220) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:27 pm

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its funny that if yall think that I'm mime and I have been the only one this day, that's tryna progress the game lmao

also if yall think im mime, then scum needs to shoot me. im a bp so scum can shoot me and no body will be killed during the night!
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Post Post #1176 (isolation #221) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:30 pm

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ngl phir im interested in ur no vote, I see a potential benefit. talk to me
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Post Post #1195 (isolation #222) » Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:38 am

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In post 1188, WhemeStar wrote: VOTE: Meuh
I think this is hammer
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Post Post #1204 (isolation #223) » Tue Jun 06, 2023 6:06 am

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no I wanted to reaction test

wheme looks bad
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Post Post #1206 (isolation #224) » Tue Jun 06, 2023 6:14 am

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In post 1200, biancospino wrote:
In post 1174, GrandpaMo wrote: also if yall think im mime, then scum needs to shoot me. im a bp so scum can shoot me and no body will be killed during the night!
Well only if scum
also
think you're actually bp, so I guess making so nobody will ever believe roleclaims you make worked swimmingly for you
well someone is gonna have to lim me...

well it's antitown to lie up to this game. and if you know me, you know when I get serious when I'm in an attitude when I'm just tryna solve and actually progressing the gsme

anyways I think it is best for us to vote the guilty. so I will vote now. I don't think greeting just lies here. if meuh is town then greeting is town as well

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Post Post #1207 (isolation #225) » Tue Jun 06, 2023 6:15 am

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In post 1205, WhemeStar wrote: How is that a reaction test
reaction to hammer dumbads
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Post Post #1216 (isolation #226) » Tue Jun 06, 2023 6:32 am

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lol it wasn't hammer u just exposed urselr

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #1217 (isolation #227) » Tue Jun 06, 2023 6:33 am

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I told u yall that this was orchestrated
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Post Post #1219 (isolation #228) » Tue Jun 06, 2023 6:37 am

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it wasn't i have an ability that fakes a vote
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Post Post #1221 (isolation #229) » Tue Jun 06, 2023 6:39 am

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ok u will see when VC gets updated lol . yall swear yall don't believe me till it happens
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Post Post #1222 (isolation #230) » Tue Jun 06, 2023 6:42 am

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In post 1203, Enchant wrote:
In post 1202, biancospino wrote:
In post 1198, Enchant wrote: GrandPa meant he gonna quickhammer Meuh with Phir
Is this a joke? Seems a stretch otherwise
No i am complete serious.

I know how GrandPaMo ticks.
u dont knopw anything about me. u played with me for one game where i was scum against u and u just think u know everything about me. that means im probably too good
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Post Post #1232 (isolation #231) » Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:12 am

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ok so can I get a thank you and a sorry
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Post Post #1233 (isolation #232) » Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:13 am

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In post 1231, Greeting wrote: Ngl it’s hilarious that mafia gave me the very power which I used to uncover them :lol:
so my theory was right
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Post Post #1234 (isolation #233) » Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:14 am

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can anyone claim vig shot on phir. I don't see mafia killing phir here...
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Post Post #1235 (isolation #234) » Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:16 am

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mafia would target u greeeting because they know the doc, demona is dead. so either vig shot meuh , and phir was killed by mafia which I highly doubt or vig shot phir, and some faction / power killed meuh from the night.
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Post Post #1237 (isolation #235) » Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:58 am

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still tho, I would surprised why phir is dead and not a confirmed like greeting. which wanna make me think greeting is an minority faction that mafia is informed of
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Post Post #1241 (isolation #236) » Thu Jun 08, 2023 1:06 pm

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In post 1238, Enchant wrote:
In post 1232, GrandpaMo wrote: ok so can I get a thank you and a sorry
Did you save Meuh or it was someone else
nah it was a coincidence it was funny
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Post Post #1242 (isolation #237) » Thu Jun 08, 2023 1:07 pm

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In post 1239, imaginality wrote: I claim the vig shot. My role gave me the power to stop a lim and get a vig shot the following night.

When CSF flipped mime I realised that this is a useful power to kill rather than lim mimes.

I wanted to use it, was originally planning to use it on Greeting but after Meuh's self-hammer I knew she was anti-town so I went for her instead.

so u shot meuh?
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Post Post #1244 (isolation #238) » Thu Jun 08, 2023 1:19 pm

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In post 1243, biancospino wrote: So well. Seems I was plenty wrong
In post 1231, Greeting wrote: Ngl it’s hilarious that mafia gave me the very power which I used to uncover them :lol:
Indeed. There's something quite mistyfying in scum giving out a Watcher power the same night that they were out to kill Demona, which was indeed a decent Watcher target.
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At night, you can discuss the nightkill in this PT. You win when the mafia are the only ones alive, or nothing can stop this from happening.
First of all why would they not give a power to themselves; and the word bargain implies that something is expected back. Greeting did sign a contract with a Demon after all
that is why I think greeting is not town but a minority faction , maybe mimes? but I doubt it but I think mafia was informed of greetings role or vice versa , they knew that greeting would be in good valuable use of them to have to target greeting because they maybe knew what there role was etc
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Post Post #1247 (isolation #239) » Thu Jun 08, 2023 2:04 pm

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no reason not to

VOTE: Whemestar
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Post Post #1258 (isolation #240) » Fri Jun 09, 2023 1:13 am

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In post 1250, Greeting wrote:
In post 1237, GrandpaMo wrote: still tho, I would surprised why phir is dead and not a confirmed like greeting. which wanna make me think greeting is an minority faction that mafia is informed of
We have 11 players in the game.

We have at least 2 mafia. We also have at least 2 mimes. Which leaves 7 town. Do you really think it is possible for yet another faction to exist?

I think it's already pretty much confirmed that I'm not aligned with the mafia.

If I were mime, why would I help town the way I did? I was put at E-1 on Day 2, I could have just hammered myself and won, instead I fought for the
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thats why like I said i don't think ur mine
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Post Post #1259 (isolation #241) » Fri Jun 09, 2023 1:15 am

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In post 1251, Greeting wrote: Anyway, I still think that you're (
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Reasons:
- I think that you wanted your Day 1 gambit to backfire and result in you being voted out for making false claims and confusing everyone;
- I think that your actual power is a role which is designed to weaken the mime faction by making it harder for them to win, and it makes sense that a mime would have that role.
well like I said my role is confirmable and can be resolved so idk why we are still tryna debate. I am not lying about my role this time, I am a bp, I helped us vote meuh and get scum out. its that simple-- mafia is gonna have to kill me , if u think im a mime, and once they leave me alive, u will realize im not a mime, if they don't keep me alive, we will have a save during the night thats how I become confirmed and resolved
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Post Post #1260 (isolation #242) » Fri Jun 09, 2023 1:17 am

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wait whats ur role greeting?
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Post Post #1262 (isolation #243) » Fri Jun 09, 2023 1:31 am

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In post 1249, Greeting wrote:
In post 1243, biancospino wrote: First of all why would they not give a power to themselves; and the word bargain implies that something is expected back. Greeting did sign a contract with a Demon after all
I honestly don't know why they chose me. There was no
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with the power too, I got it and did not have to give anything in return.
this is all they said -- still can be some different role, im just curious.
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Post Post #1269 (isolation #244) » Fri Jun 09, 2023 2:00 pm

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In post 1265, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1264, imaginality wrote: VOTE: Doctor Drew
Is this about not recruiting you?

I told you, it's the mods fault.
why are u still trolling? u havent done anything substanstial this game ngl but attack me
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Post Post #1270 (isolation #245) » Fri Jun 09, 2023 2:01 pm

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In post 1268, Doctor Drew wrote: I mean, I wasn't joking about being in a PT, so there is that.
?? why would u casually drop this important info and not eleborate. now i want u to tell me why u have a PT with soemone. are u a neighbor, mason, mafia, 3p?
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Post Post #1271 (isolation #246) » Fri Jun 09, 2023 2:01 pm

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In post 1267, biancospino wrote: I'm gonna be honest, I find it hard to believe that, in a game where flavour is from Faustus and that was advertised as "a battle for your soul"
do u think greeting might have TMI slipped there?
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Post Post #1286 (isolation #247) » Fri Jun 09, 2023 4:33 pm

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I think bianco is mime leader lol its kinda obvious to to see the game they are playing
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Post Post #1287 (isolation #248) » Fri Jun 09, 2023 4:36 pm

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In post 1279, Doctor Drew wrote: In the meantime.

I just don't trust GMo, full stop.....scared of the Mimi factor though since they are more wackadoo and all over the place then usual.

Wheme is Wheme, easy vote to make if you want to be limmed.

Bianco is kinda Bianco.

Something about Greeting pings me, in a bastard game with some wackadoo stuffs, I could easily see a buss.
I think you are informed about mafia. I think you know mafia and I think you know that greeting is mafia. you have done the same with the meuh vote so I wouldn't be surprised if ur right about greeting. I mean I said that same theory that they are aligned together and could be orchestrated and you called out to be tinfoil theory so I think you should just vote this with me

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Post Post #1293 (isolation #249) » Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:29 am

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In post 1291, WhemeStar wrote: VOTE: Drew
I think Drew might be some type of exec role? like why was he so willingly to vote wit me when he was calling me out on my bs and shit. are they mime?

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #1303 (isolation #250) » Sun Jun 11, 2023 2:13 pm

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In post 1275, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1274, Doctor Drew wrote: Also, I am telling you the typos are not a mistake here.
By GMo I mean.
i have been on phone this whole time. this is just completely nai
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Post Post #1304 (isolation #251) » Sun Jun 11, 2023 2:14 pm

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In post 1279, Doctor Drew wrote: In the meantime.

I just don't trust GMo, full stop.....scared of the Mimi factor though since they are more wackadoo and all over the place then usual.

Wheme is Wheme, easy vote to make if you want to be limmed.

Bianco is kinda Bianco.

Something about Greeting pings me, in a bastard game with some wackadoo stuffs, I could easily see a buss.
when i was scum, i was all over the place and you called me out on it. now that I am town and more relaxed, you still call me out on it. you sound like me now tryna bs an unknown read on someone because they see others reading me as town and others reading me as scum
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Post Post #1305 (isolation #252) » Sun Jun 11, 2023 2:14 pm

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In post 1301, mykonian wrote:
I like to hear the Old Man’s words, from time to time,
And take care, when I’m with him, not to spew.
It’s very nice when such a great Gentleman,
Chats with the devil, in ways so human, too!


Votecount


Doctor Drew (2): Enchant, Whemestar
Biancospino (2): Greeting, imaginality
Greeting (1): Doctor Drew
Enchant (1): biancospino

not voting (1): GrandpaMo

with 7 alive it is 4 to eliminate.
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Post Post #1306 (isolation #253) » Sun Jun 11, 2023 2:15 pm

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i am surely the old man that mod is talking about*^
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Post Post #1307 (isolation #254) » Sun Jun 11, 2023 2:22 pm

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there is scum between bianco, imag, and drew. just don't know which
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Post Post #1314 (isolation #255) » Sun Jun 11, 2023 3:38 pm

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In post 1313, Greeting wrote:
In post 1307, GrandpaMo wrote: there is scum between bianco, imag, and drew. just don't know which
I didn’t like anything about
imaginality
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bianco
, I guess the possibility of it being
Drew
should not be ruled out though.

UNVOTE: biancospino

Until I check out the
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youre confusing me. u called imag out multiple times saying they might be lying. if u dont like their play, dont u think that they might be scum lying then?
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Post Post #1315 (isolation #256) » Sun Jun 11, 2023 3:39 pm

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In post 1312, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1304, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 1279, Doctor Drew wrote: In the meantime.

I just don't trust GMo, full stop.....scared of the Mimi factor though since they are more wackadoo and all over the place then usual.

Wheme is Wheme, easy vote to make if you want to be limmed.

Bianco is kinda Bianco.

Something about Greeting pings me, in a bastard game with some wackadoo stuffs, I could easily see a buss.
when i was scum, i was all over the place and you called me out on it. now that I am town and more relaxed, you still call me out on it. you sound like me now tryna bs an unknown read on someone because they see others reading me as town and others reading me as scum
You cannot in all good conscience say that you as less all over the place than brass and shrapnel.
dude i was scum that game + i was in a hydra. dont u see my relaxed demeanor here? all u do is point out my meta ;( i miss the old drew
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Post Post #1319 (isolation #257) » Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:25 am

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In post 1317, Enchant wrote: So mafia didn't bus teammate caught in watcher shot, who gives these watcher shots in a first place compulsively?

I choose to not believe that, but who i am to know? I am hilariously bad
so why aren't u voting greeting?
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Post Post #1320 (isolation #258) » Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:28 am

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In post 1316, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1315, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 1312, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1304, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 1279, Doctor Drew wrote: In the meantime.

I just don't trust GMo, full stop.....scared of the Mimi factor though since they are more wackadoo and all over the place then usual.

Wheme is Wheme, easy vote to make if you want to be limmed.

Bianco is kinda Bianco.

Something about Greeting pings me, in a bastard game with some wackadoo stuffs, I could easily see a buss.
when i was scum, i was all over the place and you called me out on it. now that I am town and more relaxed, you still call me out on it. you sound like me now tryna bs an unknown read on someone because they see others reading me as town and others reading me as scum
You cannot in all good conscience say that you as less all over the place than brass and shrapnel.
dude i was scum that game + i was in a hydra. dont u see my relaxed demeanor here? all u do is point out my meta ;( i miss the old drew
You have been discrediting me all game here, much the same you did there, when you were scum.

Everytime I point something out, you have an excuse that poo poos my read on you.

And I do most of my posting on a phone, and don't have nearly as many typos as you.....and way more than I ever remember.

This is Drew 2.0......Grandpa Killa :twisted:
I haven't been discrediting all game. I actually gave you sum credit in the beginning of the game when you voted with me and voted meuh and did all that. its just weird seeing you agree wit me one time and then completely make posts like these another time. its conflicting for me in my mind haha. so i actually don't hard scumread u and I actually rather not vote u other than other people who just voted u without reason. u realize that right?

and the typos thing rlly? rlly drew? pls look at my other games - u would see i am very apparent in my typos in every game I have played , its the same here. its inconsistent , some posts I have typos and decide to not make any mistakes and sum I do just out of me typing so damn fast. you have conf bias that once someone pointed it out , thats the only thing u probably see now but it has happened ever game I have played
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Post Post #1324 (isolation #259) » Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:41 pm

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In post 1288, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1287, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 1279, Doctor Drew wrote: In the meantime.

I just don't trust GMo, full stop.....scared of the Mimi factor though since they are more wackadoo and all over the place then usual.

Wheme is Wheme, easy vote to make if you want to be limmed.

Bianco is kinda Bianco.

Something about Greeting pings me, in a bastard game with some wackadoo stuffs, I could easily see a buss.
I think you are informed about mafia. I think you know mafia and I think you know that greeting is mafia. you have done the same with the meuh vote so I wouldn't be surprised if ur right about greeting. I mean I said that same theory that they are aligned together and could be orchestrated and you called out to be tinfoil theory so I think you should just vote this with me

VOTE: Greeting
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VOTE: Greeting
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Post Post #1326 (isolation #260) » Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:47 pm

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wait Drew did u claim already?


are u just a vt in a pt by urself ?
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Post Post #1327 (isolation #261) » Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:52 pm

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answer quick i think I have some good info that no one has thought of before yet
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Post Post #1329 (isolation #262) » Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:58 pm

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biancospino
Enchant
Whemestar


Imaginality - PR (active)
demona - PR (active)
GrandpaMo - PR (passive)
Drew - PR (passive)
Phir - vt
Greeting - vt


Meuh - scum

Cat Scratch Fever - 3rd party

I am now requesting that Biancospino, enchant, and whemestar to roleclaim.
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Post Post #1330 (isolation #263) » Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:00 pm

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oh wait spino claimed vt -- thats even more interesting

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Post Post #1331 (isolation #264) » Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:03 pm

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In post 1179, Phir wrote:
In post 1176, GrandpaMo wrote: ngl phir im interested in ur no vote, I see a potential benefit. talk to me
The benefit is keeping safe. But I know it fails, even in this game, so I don't feel like pushing it. Maybe someday I'll get a no lim.

Right now at least I feel bianco isn't town. So.

I'm not going to vote Bianco I'm not a lemming.

Meuh I will vote however. Outside of how they have backtracked on me bei g town and other things, the clear drive today is towards a greeting or meuh lim.

Greeting: Could be town, scum, or capable mime
Meuh: Could be good scum or at this point lost town but not a mime
Biancospino: Scum or mime. Hard to decide which, both vibes are there.

If I want to vote today it's gonna be meuh, I'll hammer over greeting.

I've been getting dEfinite scum vibes from them today. I feel their positioning on bianco and imag is weird.

And for now it's my safest play oother than a no lim or a self vote.

Meuh..... almost voted just now but meh there's time.
In post 1180, Phir wrote: Cat Scatch/Bianco as mimes and Imag/meuh as scum makes sense on an instinctual level to me since last night.
In post 1181, Phir wrote:
In post 827, Greeting wrote:
In post 788, Meuh wrote:
In post 784, imaginality wrote: VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever E-2

If there was scum on WhemeStar it's probably this vote switch to Enchant because I don't think scum!Drew would switch to Mo (if Mo was a likely mislim that would've kicked off after the fake PR stuff).

And... eh I guess scum!bianco might see town!Phir as a possible mislim but CSF's vote on Enchant seems the most likely to be scum trying to get a different mislim going after the first one stalled.

The rolefishing seems bad (narrows down who might be doc, also the 'weird or normal roles' question could help scum with faking claims. Specifically I don't think we should say if there are thematic flavour elements in our PMs or not). But it does seem, particularly demona asking about doc, too blatant for scum to feel comfortable doing it.

This is a pretty weird game to try to read, it feels like listening to people talking underwater. I wouldn't be opposed to limming WhemeStar still (I think the flip would be more informative than waiting to get a read from their posts) but I was suspicious of CSF earlier and the switch to Enchant has pinged me again.
Okay yeah Imaginality can be town, love this post
Hmm.

What do you love about that post?
Ok I read back to try and see where greeting was when they were in hammer range, im sort of agreeing with enchant the poss. They a mime slimmer.

Instead I noticed this, and at the time I was also curious about imag's post which basically sheeped the demona/greeting/meuh/phir dynamic. I kept silent, and while meuh's ready acceptance of imag's post might have raised an eyebrow I think I still had meuh as solid town.

I forgot all aboit all that, but I did like greeting not seeming to like imag's post by questioning meuh.

So.

Going off what imag says here I'm starting to feel scum uninformed about mimes, meuh/imag scum bianco/cat mimes, I'm feeling it stronger.
In post 1182, Phir wrote: VOTE: imaginality for now.
In post 1183, Enchant wrote:
In post 1182, Phir wrote: VOTE: imaginality for now.
why
In post 1184, Phir wrote:
In post 1183, Enchant wrote:
In post 1182, Phir wrote: VOTE: imaginality for now.
why
Cos I'm basically waiting to vote meuh. Doubt people will vote outside meuh/greeting.
In post 1185, Enchant wrote: Then vote Meuh
In post 1186, Phir wrote:No.
In post 1187, Enchant wrote: ... Okay whatever.
In post 1188, WhemeStar wrote: VOTE: Meuh
In post 1189, imaginality wrote:
In post 1095, Phir wrote:
In post 1090, Enchant wrote:
In post 1088, Phir wrote: And you assume scum/sk are not informed about the mimes(question for everybody).
I am assuming nothing

More dumb questions please?
Plz unvote this doesnt feel natural from bianco could be meuh/bianco. I hope you're town lol.
I agree with bianco that Phir's post here seems suspicious.
In post 1099, Phir wrote: And I have to check imaginality also with the greeting vote.

The fact that enchant hasnt unvoted can be AI.

If I hammer I might not have to deal with all this shite anymore tho so. Maybe if Mo is mime scum banking on the mo hammer, bianco defs scummy not mimey maybe.
Phir is probably scum with Greeting. This second post feels to me like Phir saw the unvote the post before so could appear willing to hammer without actually having to.
In post 1170, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 1169, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1168, GrandpaMo wrote: I think both u and greeting have a possibility of both being town. im just not in the right headscarf to explain it
Well put on the correct headscarf, because you can't just say that without explaining why.
since no one spoke up about giving greeting that power, it is possible that scum has an ability that gives town a false power where the power, in this case a watcher ability, always produces a negative result, in this case a guilty result on the target, Meuh.
Tbh this is a possibility that should be considered in a bastard game. But I think there'd be more people voting Meuh if scum were actually using the power that way as they'd make the most of it (especially considering it nets them two mislims). So I don't think this is our reality.

I also agree that Greeting not wanting the power giver to out themselves is a sus mindset. I think there's more benefit in that getting clarified than getting to use it again.
In post 1176, GrandpaMo wrote: ngl phir im interested in ur no vote, I see a potential benefit. talk to me
If we had a good sense of how many scum and mimes we have we could make scum take another shot or two before eliminating someone, to increase the chance of the mimes losing. Though I think more likely we end up worse off since scum probably aim for town if they know that's the plan. And probably have a better read than us on who the mimes are.

--
I don't think Drew and Whemestar push for the elimination to be between Meuh and Greeting today if either of them were Greeting's buddy. Or if they're scum and know Greeting's a mime. So I guess I have to consider them most likely town.

--

Town:
Meuh
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Phir
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GrandpaMo
this series of quotes is very interesting. drew and spino i wants ur thoughts on this -- is this why phir was killed during the night?
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Post Post #1336 (isolation #265) » Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:34 pm

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im just gonna wait for a roleclaim from wheme and enchant
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Post Post #1337 (isolation #266) » Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:35 pm

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In post 1334, biancospino wrote: It is true that Phir sussed Imag a lot, thou (1) I don't think Phir in themselves would be felt as much of a tractioning force for that wagon, and (2) Imag being scum would imply he used his governor+kill ability on a partner which idk if it's remotely close to optimal. The tinfoil of course is that it's not melded Governor Vigilante but something more like an execution delayer
wait imag is governor?

then why did meuh hammer themselves?
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Post Post #1338 (isolation #267) » Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:35 pm

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In post 1264, imaginality wrote: VOTE: Doctor Drew
In post 1266, imaginality wrote: VOTE: Unvote misremembered something. I'll reread later
what is this about @imag?
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Post Post #1340 (isolation #268) » Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:37 pm

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In post 1239, imaginality wrote: I claim the vig shot. My role gave me the power to stop a lim and get a vig shot the following night.

When CSF flipped mime I realised that this is a useful power to kill rather than lim mimes.

I wanted to use it, was originally planning to use it on Greeting but after Meuh's self-hammer I knew she was anti-town so I went for her instead.
i just dont understand why u would stop the shot u would kill??? especially if they self hammered.

this is contradicting because u say u had a power to stop the lim right -- but meuh self hammered. at what point were u able to stop it?
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Post Post #1342 (isolation #269) » Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:48 pm

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In post 1341, biancospino wrote: or (2) she though she was destined to die anyway and wanted to put up a little theatrical by dying the Night, thus allowing Imag to fakeclaim Vig uncounterclaimed, in which case Imag is red.

Green imag would pardon the execution of someone they though was a mime and kill them after that, makes full sense to me.
2 sounds very more likely to happen. i dont see scum why they wont take advantage of that opportunity . i mean i see u which u mean about green imag but them saying "was originally planning to use it on Greeting but after Meuh's self-hammer I knew she was anti-town so I went for her instead." just the way imag worded just sounds off idk man
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Post Post #1348 (isolation #270) » Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:46 am

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In post 1345, Enchant wrote: My only question is why one role can both stop day kill and perform night kill as well.

I would expect to different players have it, cuz if Imaginality for example died N1, now what?


Thinking Meuh is mime only possible if Greeting was mafia who randomly accused mime somehow. Stopping elim is meh decision here, but Imaginality still fine for me.

My decision yet unchanged.
pls roleclaim.
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Post Post #1349 (isolation #271) » Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:47 am

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In post 1347, imaginality wrote: @GrandpaMo what do you think of my theory of a biancospino mafia, Enchant mime world?
im just waiting for wheme and enchant to roleclaim because i think we can sorta find a lead there on whose lying?
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Post Post #1351 (isolation #272) » Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:57 am

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In post 1350, Enchant wrote: Sorry but you are mime and you are boxed.

It's last responce for you.
pls dont be like this... i actually might be able to figure something out. you and whemestar are the only two to not have claimed. we might be able to solve this shit faaster

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Post Post #1352 (isolation #273) » Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:57 am

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@everyone. pls see why it is more valuable for enchant and wheme to claim and pressure a roleclaim pls!
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Post Post #1358 (isolation #274) » Tue Jun 13, 2023 3:23 pm

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In post 1357, WhemeStar wrote: I’m not in a hood
pls roleclaim
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Post Post #1365 (isolation #275) » Fri Jun 16, 2023 1:32 am

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do u get notified if u were hit or not?
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Post Post #1367 (isolation #276) » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:08 am

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horrible hammer btw.
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Post Post #1368 (isolation #277) » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:09 am

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if u don't roleclaim I will vote u
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Post Post #1370 (isolation #278) » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:34 am

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so im assuming I got shot. that means whoever shot me thought I was mime
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Post Post #1371 (isolation #279) » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:34 am

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VOTE: Enchant
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Post Post #1376 (isolation #280) » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:32 pm

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In post 1373, imaginality wrote: Probably time to massclaim I think?
bruh I already said this yesterday.
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Post Post #1378 (isolation #281) » Fri Jun 16, 2023 3:11 pm

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In post 1377, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1376, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 1373, imaginality wrote: Probably time to massclaim I think?
bruh I already said this yesterday.
Gmo, always ahead of the curve.
ngl i have been playing good as town lol. like ik i usually say this and like people talk down or whatever -- but i am more confident this game. i have been good with my reads and so far have developed an active conscious in figuring out whats going on.

the only shit fucking me up is the third party thing and especially a BS claim between greeting and imag. like is it possible greeting retracted on imag scumread because they were scared and needed imag to win the game?

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Post Post #1392 (isolation #282) » Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:04 pm

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same lol but I thought I did was going to do it on my computer to layout the role claims post I did earlier
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Post Post #1394 (isolation #283) » Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:11 pm

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I think so. I don't wanna hammer just yet
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Post Post #1395 (isolation #284) » Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:11 pm

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u can if u want to -- I won't be opposed
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Post Post #1401 (isolation #285) » Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:26 pm

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In post 1397, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1396, Enchant wrote:
In post 1394, GrandpaMo wrote: I think so. I don't wanna hammer just yet
You already voted me
In post 1395, GrandpaMo wrote: u can if u want to -- I won't be opposed
duh
That is a weird set of posts Gmo.....do you want a hammer or not?

Did you forget you were already voting them?
im rlly tryna think. but yea I did. I don't feel very beneficial in the game anymore for some reason
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Post Post #1406 (isolation #286) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:09 am

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In post 1405, WhemeStar wrote: Is there ever a bus guilty
yea thats whats the thing that is holding me back from voting enchant
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Post Post #1407 (isolation #287) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:10 am

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UNVOTE: enchant
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Post Post #1408 (isolation #288) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:10 am

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I still need to put this shjt into my analysis . I haven't gotten the time to sit down and rlly analyze this day further
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Post Post #1436 (isolation #289) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:46 pm

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ahh thank u for hosting. also good job demona!! it was fun playing with you twin<3

and no i wasnt mime, iwas actually one shot bp
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Post Post #1437 (isolation #290) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:47 pm

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In post 1431, mykonian wrote: I know what I signed up for when I made this a bastard game. It was well deserved
also sorry mod for faking a whole role -- it waas fun while it lasted xD
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Post Post #1438 (isolation #291) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:48 pm

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In post 1425, biancospino wrote: Eh, I think Imaginality was mislimmable possibly. There was a point Mo was pushing in that direction and I was on the verge of agreeing actually, for tinfoil reasons that I've pointed out somewhere iirc. Maybe you could have stoked the paranoia
nah once i started seeing imaginility playing like how they usually do --i was gonna decide between drew and enchant. which is rlly why iwanted to wait until i focused but ig yall voted haha
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Post Post #1440 (isolation #292) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:50 pm

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In post 1351, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 1350, Enchant wrote: Sorry but you are mime and you are boxed.

It's last responce for you.
pls dont be like this... i actually might be able to figure something out. you and whemestar are the only two to not have claimed. we might be able to solve this shit faaster

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i had this post written up -- this makes it look like both the minority faction are in the vts are at least one in vt and the other in the PR which in this case would be imagiine / drew
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Post Post #1441 (isolation #293) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:51 pm

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In post 1439, Meuh wrote:
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Thee may asketh me any questions in the entire w'rld and I shall guideth thee and s'rve as a guardian by answ'ring by
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one day i will mod a rlly bastardy game that will involve mechs like this
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Post Post #1443 (isolation #294) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:01 pm

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In post 1442, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1441, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 1439, Meuh wrote:
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one day i will mod a rlly bastardy game that will involve mechs like this
I was actually really hoping this was a real role haha.

I love the concept.
yea i wanted to stay away by answering questions about the game because i didnt wanna get in trouble so i was like here just ask me stuff about my role :dead:
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Post Post #1459 (isolation #295) » Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:19 am

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holy drew is a savage

"Who does it hurt?" LMAO
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