I!! Have read through this quickly and my thoughts on this as mafia are: It was not terribly fun from a mechanical perspective to play this as mafia!! We had no way to break into the meat of the other stuff that was happening with all of the town abilities and it is not very fun to play! Yes, we are able to find these people to kill them but there are a lot of things I felt we had to kill!
I really think that there should have been even a one-shot of some kind of blocker or what have you to enable us! I know that there is that power loaded into the town's setup with the Stickyfruit vendor but!! Ultimately it just felt... a little unfair sometimes!! I think with a little tweaking this would have been a lot more enjoyable to do but I still had fun regardless!!
I think you guys were in a good spot to win this game, and still could. STD push going through probably would have meant a scum victory.
Also one of your scum mates were killed Night 1, so it was an uphill battle, so I think a little bit rough is expected at that point. I was worried it was going to be waaaay too much, but you two were still definitely in the driver seat for a lot.
in theory, town didnt have a lot of power that couldnt also help scum in certain situations as well. I'm not sure I would add a blocker into the game if I were to do it differently.
Probably unrecruitable traitor, but dont really like traitor either, so
i see plays that could have happened/should have happened to make it not, but it's not necessarily easy, and would have had to be setting up. It's not impossible, but I dont think that STD wagon was fought for hard enough imo.
Doctor Drew doctor'd Frogs last night, and Klick's role made it so that the doctor shot won't happen until tonight. So Frogs, if shot at, will be protected. I think a No Kill actually would go in Scum's favor, however, because Klick will get a fake guilty.
Klick said it when they voted, 'if nobody is gonna push for anything', scum just really needed to push for a misfade there, and I think they would have won the game.
The opportunity for STD was there, but scum felt like distancing was the right play.
I kind of get the Enchant kill, but at the same time, they were a claimed Vanilla, still a possible misfade possibility over some others, and Klick needed to die. I think a Klick kill also would have lead to a scum win there.
This was what I like to call the pivot day. Yes, there's still more days, but this was the victory day basically.
So the fact that the scum team had the opportunity to win despite all the hardcomings, makes me feel like it worked a little better than I expected after Day 1.
That being said, I understand why it feels rough from a scum perspective too.
I think the self-vote just makes it look like there was a bus + scum just kind of let Klick take the time to solve, and choose the direction.
Not to harp on scum at all, I think they played really well up until that point, but it became the most pivotal section in the game, and that's neat to me on a play analytical level.
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
Based on neighborhoods talk, everyone is thinking STD/Peregrine were distancing, which is cool to see Drew has done such a good job getting town read imo.
But a kill going through Klick will have an inno on STD.
In post 189, Firebringer wrote:
Yeah i think this game is going to town now. I don't think Drew can survive a final 3 no matter who he brings.
It would be final 4
Frogs, Norwegian, Malakittens, Doctor Drew
I think it is winnable in that scenario, but not necessarily easy.
At least, that’s what it should be. Don’t take the chance with Klick.
only way win there is to elim Frogs i think, i can't see mala or norwee getting elimmed or even pushed regardless. I mean if tried i think its immediate death sentence. Would need to hop can convince mala/norwee that last one is frogs and i just have hard time seeing that happen with activity and all that.
I actually think better would be to take Klick/Alisae in final 4 and hope paranoia between the two becomes to strong for them to avoid.
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
In post 192, Boonskiies wrote:
Based on neighborhoods talk, everyone is thinking STD/Peregrine were distancing, which is cool to see Drew has done such a good job getting town read imo.
But a kill going through Klick will have an inno on STD.
Can you remove my access to hood btw?
I just found that i accidently tried to post here.
Wizard-Mercenary
You need replacement/players ASAP? PM me! I almost always accept.
yeah bussing peregrine was not the right play there i think
ah well
alter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
