Mini Normal 2303 [Postgame!!!!]

[Ausuka]

There are almost always going to be 3 mafia in a game like this

[iamveryhappy]

how

The whole scumslip thing was a joke about our last game, you implied I was stupid so I thought I'd bite back a little

You are probably town this game although that's not a lock

I don't imply ppl are stupid, I straight out go like, "Hi ___, did you know that you are a fucking idiot?"
I attack the play not the person dw

[iamveryhappy]

I even have a 14p game that has a 3v11 setup, this should be 3v10
on prs here I do agree the cook pr seems a bit too op, should be balanced by making other prs weaker
how many prs do we have here is the real question
I'm guessing three
how do I know this
I make setups and am p good at them

[Cook]

I even have a 14p game that has a 3v11 setup, this should be 3v10
on prs here I do agree the cook pr seems a bit too op, should be balanced by making other prs weaker
how many prs do we have here is the real question
I'm guessing three
how do I know this
I make setups and am p good at them

part of the reason i called BS on italiano's claim

like look there in the future

[Flower]

I even have a 14p game that has a 3v11 setup, this should be 3v10
on prs here I do agree the cook pr seems a bit too op, should be balanced by making other prs weaker
how many prs do we have here is the real question
I'm guessing three
how do I know this
I make setups and am p good at them

part of the reason i called BS on italiano's claim

like look there in the future

Wait you thought it was 10/3 but 1-shot bulletproof Rolecop + 2x Masons would make the game unbalanced? Masons should have been possible from your point of view, it'd only be nonsense in 11/2 (And even then it could work depending on Mafia PRs)

-Nameless

[Cook]

I even have a 14p game that has a 3v11 setup, this should be 3v10
on prs here I do agree the cook pr seems a bit too op, should be balanced by making other prs weaker
how many prs do we have here is the real question
I'm guessing three
how do I know this
I make setups and am p good at them

part of the reason i called BS on italiano's claim

like look there in the future

Wait you thought it was 10/3 but 1-shot bulletproof Rolecop + 2x Masons would make the game unbalanced? Masons should have been possible from your point of view, it'd only be nonsense in 11/2 (And even then it could work depending on Mafia PRs)

-Nameless

that's two townies who can communicate plus a rolecop who doesn't need a prot role to stay alive, right?

[Flower]

that's two townies who can communicate plus a rolecop who doesn't need a prot role to stay alive, right?

Yeah, that's roughly balanced for 10/3 with either full Goon (So that you're mostly useless if it's

only

you + Masons) or Roleblocker/1-shot Strongman (So that mafia can deal with you claiming)

-Nameless

[Cook]

that's two townies who can communicate plus a rolecop who doesn't need a prot role to stay alive, right?

Yeah, that's roughly balanced for 10/3 with either full Goon (So that you're mostly useless if it's

only

you + Masons) or Roleblocker/1-shot Strongman (So that mafia can deal with you claiming)

-Nameless

i mean they might as well have a strongman

[iamveryhappy]

yeah
unless scum have some really good power roles this is really townsided
guessed/possible mafia power roles: roleblocker, rolecop

[Cook]

oh you haven't read that far back probably, nameless, but

"defensive" is a bit of a weird read of that post

agree and

i think that maybe my wagon knows something about me

i felt like mafia might be informed of my existence because of how strong i am

[Ausuka]

Is rolecop actually a powerful role, though

I really don't think it is

1-shot bp is a bit stronger but mostly the role just seems *weird* rather than overpowered

[Ausuka]

Koba and isis would probably pass something a bit more scumsided than what I'd pass, but I don't think they would view rolecop that way

[iamveryhappy]

strongman is possible but should be os
if we call bs on the mason claim, I can see a setup like
2x goon
1x mafia rb
1x rolecop os bp
1x town pr that may happen to affect the rolecop, guessing jk, a vig is likely too because simple roles, and vig may crack the bp accidentally, I think asri has touched on there being a vig somewhere around post 1250- 1300
1x town pr that may work well with the rolecop, guessing doctor
final prediction
2x goon, 1x mafia rb, 1x mafia os bp rolecop, 1x town vig, 1x doc, 7x vt
woo
my great knowledge of mafia setups has helped me significantly
1x other pr that doesn't affect the rolecop, guessing doc

[iamveryhappy]

ignore the last line

[Flower]

Is rolecop actually a powerful role, though

I really don't think it is

1-shot bp is a bit stronger but mostly the role just seems *weird* rather than overpowered

It'd depend on the scum roles I think, if scum have obviously scummy roles like Strongman/Ninja it'd be pretty decent

UNVOTE: Cook

I don't like the claim, I don't like the explanations, consider my vote spiritually here until I have time to read the first ~15 pages tomorrow to see if what Cook's talking about here makes sense with the Mason reaction and the "Oh scum on my wagon know something about me"

-Nameless

[Ausuka]

Fwiw if there is actually a vig I think the chances of cook actually flipping scum are much higher because '1 shot bulletproof rolecop' probably isn't a fake claim because it's too weird for most people to think of without much apparent benefit to claiming it.

Unfortunately we can't just ask vig to cook cook because she might be a mafia bp shrug

I will maybe think about it because it's definitely possible we have roles like ninja but if we do making the rolecop bp just feels like a strange design choice. I guess it does work if mafia have both strongman and ninja tho. My instinct was not to believe the claim because as a rolecop 'I'm sure i will be more interesting tomorrow' doesn't feel like it would fit because you're likely to just get a vanilla result

[KatyKimFanClub]

Wow ok a lot happened. I think Cook's frustration with the wagon at the very start of D1 makes a little more sense now.

[Invisibility]

the line sorta makes sense if she was trying to bait the NK. I think Cook is most likely scum claiming truthfully though lol

[Invisibility]

Wow ok a lot happened. I think Cook's frustration with the wagon at the very start of D1 makes a little more sense now.

why? It's not like she was in any danger of getting limmed then

[KatyKimFanClub]

Actually really only one thing happened.
I'll say that this day has been pretty long and I haven't gotten around to saying all the things I wanted to say because I've been a little busy with stuff, but it is normal for a wagon on Cook to get to E-1 with a lot of people (such as myself) somewhat inactive?

[Invisibility]

with the day being about to end I'd say so

[ItalianoVD]

When it comes to Fire something that made me slightly raise my eyebrows

Does fire's Hu Tao push feel natural?

I felt his Princess push felt more natural. Didn’t he townread Hu Tao?

[ItalianoVD]

Welcome to the game Flower, unfortunately you’re replacing into a fairly suspicious slot. At least for me, Princess was on the list of possible lims for today.

[ItalianoVD]

(i'd rather not die right away. this is my first game back. that would've been a waste of ten days of my time)

Does this count as AtE?

I’d say it’s NAI.

[Ausuka]

I think getting close to a lim this near to the deadline is kinda necessary, regardless of if ppl are inactive