In post 1911, hellbooks wrote:
just still have him in my poe pool rly, and dont fully know what the arguments are for him being town. I thought he was scummy at some point during d1 and havent had much idea about anything past that point
I feel like this is a pretty noncommittal answer
I will bet my life on shea being scum. every word, every freaking character he has pressed submit on is the most scummy content imaginable. Its as if shea personally and lovingly handcrafted each post with the sole intention of being as scummy as possible. and you could not invent a scummier character even in fiction. If shea is not scum i will personally report ausuka for role pm fraud, quit mafia forever, and donate 7 million dollars to a charity of your choice
Man, now I kind of hope you are scum here. I like playing with you but if you're town you gotta have some kind of case on someone
In post 687, Alisae wrote:
VOTE: Baltar
better vote than sheep I think
In post 701, Ausuka wrote:
Garlic bread has to be one of the biggest profit makers for takeaway pizza companies. I mean, I've never actually worked at one, but their pizzas actually look and taste pretty unique and the garlic bread is just the same kind of thing you get frozen at a supermarket and they charge you the price of a full meal at McDonalds for it. The portion sizes also aren't great. I mean, to be fair, Domino's does a really nice garlic bread pizza, but 1) it's *tiny* for how much they charge you, and 2) I feel like they do just put frozen wedges from the supermarket in the oven.
In post 685, Garlic Bread wrote:
i think i looped back around to vp baltar / sheep scum world but idk if thats bc hellbooks is actually funny and baltar isnt
lol get rekt if hellbooks scum and ur town baltar (but also get rekt in the world ur scum, but less so bc i know its harder to be funny as scum)
Hellbrooks doesn't seem that scummy to me, but WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK IS THIS I AM FUNNY HOW DARE YOU
in retrospect a lot of shea's arguments are just bad and uncritical and yeah as I mentioned before, big angry tunnels are my achilles heel in reading alignment of.
full disclosure I thought shea had softed roleblocker/rolecop and the reason they were entertaining me as pretty much locktown was because they were claiming they checked me via this way.
but looking at the roles town has assuming tris town world, Town JK, 1S BP, and goon, and allegedly either another goon or some light counterplay(im gonna go with goon based on baltar's reaction to thinking there was doc jailkeeper and bp in the setup, i think that he was genuine in the fact he thought the setup didnt fit from a scum POV)
alisae slot/hellbooks never scum for sure based on interactions with flipped scum here
tris follows
i think xof slot is like ? kinda clearish and enchant feels like town so its like yeah.
In post 1900, Ausuka wrote:
The conspirators met up to discuss their findings, but came to the unfortunate conclusion that Alisae seemed to have gone missing. Nobody had any idea where they were, which seemed like a suboptimal turn of events. They decided to split up to look for them.
Mod notes: thestatusquo is v/la
current VC, my vote is on shea in spirit and we assume its e-1, I just dont want anyone to quickhammer
also there's like that "avoiding the thread completely" tell that people tend to have when mafia, that when they are busy , if town they'll feel obligated to look and then actually post, but as mafia they'll look, not have good enough context because they need to fake stuff and prefer to lean into being busy(while being caught up) - its the type of thing that is consistent enough that I can say that I would moreso use it to clear people as town if they do come despite busyness based on context
In post 1933, Garlic Bread wrote:
also there's like that "avoiding the thread completely" tell that people tend to have when mafia, that when they are busy , if town they'll feel obligated to look and then actually post, but as mafia they'll look, not have good enough context because they need to fake stuff and prefer to lean into being busy(while being caught up) - its the type of thing that is consistent enough that I can say that I would moreso use it to clear people as town if they do come despite busyness based on context
I'm still extreme v/la. Still think alisae is by far the most likely to flip red.
Shea, when you get back I'd like to hear your thoughts on Alisae/Dunn here- I think the last post you had about them you were on the fence, so what's pushed you into more confidence here?
In post 1933, Garlic Bread wrote:
also there's like that "avoiding the thread completely" tell that people tend to have when mafia, that when they are busy , if town they'll feel obligated to look and then actually post, but as mafia they'll look, not have good enough context because they need to fake stuff and prefer to lean into being busy(while being caught up) - its the type of thing that is consistent enough that I can say that I would moreso use it to clear people as town if they do come despite busyness based on context
Nah though
I agree with the principal of the argument that Garlic Bread is making here.
The main reasons that the fact that a Shea wagon has formed bother me is that
1) it's just the laziest play possible to wagon the person not here
2) No one can really give a case on why he's scum. GB has at least posted some thoughts, but a post like 1931 sounds like POE is the main reason, not a supporting one. Like, you say that Shea's arguments are uncritical but can you give me some examples?
In post 1933, Garlic Bread wrote:
also there's like that "avoiding the thread completely" tell that people tend to have when mafia, that when they are busy , if town they'll feel obligated to look and then actually post, but as mafia they'll look, not have good enough context because they need to fake stuff and prefer to lean into being busy(while being caught up) - its the type of thing that is consistent enough that I can say that I would moreso use it to clear people as town if they do come despite busyness based on context
Nah though
I agree with the principal of the argument that Garlic Bread is making here.
Well, you two have played a lot more than me, maybe I'm wrong, but this seems...like, we literally know where Shea was this weekend, there were like cameras and shit on him.
I am not at all convinced that it is TSQ but they are one of the 3 people I have inside my poe. TSQ, Enchant, and hellbooks is where I've landed. My vote happened to already be on TSQ and I didn't feel a need to change it, but I imagine wagoning Enchant would be about the same amount of effort. Hellbooks would be difficult, but I'd do it if I thought they were more likely than the others in my poe, which is not the case right now.
Garlic bread, what is making you remove Hellbooks from your poe?
I'm still in fact literally verifiably at a survivor meet and you can lim me if you want or wait for me to get back if you want.
Don't really care.
Just reading the last few posts I think the claim that I don't post ever because of alignment is silly. Look at my last scum games. I am usually the top poster as either alignment. Anyone pushing that is not really thinking about the game.
Dunn knows this. They just finished team mafia as scum with me. Where I was the top poster in the game. Inactivity just means I'm busy.
In post 1939, Dunnstral wrote:
I am not at all convinced that it is TSQ but they are one of the 3 people I have inside my poe. TSQ, Enchant, and hellbooks is where I've landed. My vote happened to already be on TSQ and I didn't feel a need to change it, but I imagine wagoning Enchant would be about the same amount of effort. Hellbooks would be difficult, but I'd do it if I thought they were more likely than the others in my poe, which is not the case right now.
Garlic bread, what is making you remove Hellbooks from your poe?
lazy in a way I don't associate with town dunn tbh.
You are relying on your vote as an excuse for voting me without doing any work to justify it by just handwaving that I am in your poe.
Explain why I interact with baltar if I'm scum. Why I spend the whole day fighting as hard as I do against the sheep lim. You again just finished TM as my scumbuddy. You saw how I white knight as scum with dragoneater. If you think my play around the sheep wagon is at all like that you're not actually reading the thread.
Show me, because I'm not seeing it. You can interact with baltar as mafia just because, I don't think there is anything to explain. I read day 2, I didn't read the stuff about sheep or your interactions there. I was looking at interactions with the flipped mafia - I said that.
To expand my play around the dragoneater wagon in team mafia was very clearly designed to weakly and ineffectually push against the wagon while hoping it went through. Here I engaged with GB multiple times to try to fight for thread control with the explicit purpose of fighting that wagon. The defenses are literally night and day.
tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner