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Post Post #5850 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:22 pm

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In post 5844, Flavor Leaf wrote: I feel like scum are town reading me, but killing off the people town reading me, like Klick and Ranger.

Like Black fits the bill of Hardcore Hatcheting me.

They’re saying I’m town, but they’ve been chopping me down every single day phase, and i feel like it stopped when I started pushing LLD.
Possible. Not sure what you mean by Hatcheting sorry.

I think if you’re scum’s pawn (which I think is your argument) then more than likely they kill Klick or Ranger because their reads were probably right (note to self look at reads they had) if you’re loud and wrong then scum keep you alive and let you go wrong.

I’d find if you were pushing mostly scum until LLD you’d be the bigger threat.

Makes me think if you’re good your Black read is probably bad.

I would look at where Ranger and Klick agreed on scum if anywhere
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Post Post #5851 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:22 pm

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In post 5852, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5844, Flavor Leaf wrote: I feel like scum are town reading me, but killing off the people town reading me, like Klick and Ranger.

Like Black fits the bill of Hardcore Hatcheting me.

They’re saying I’m town, but they’ve been chopping me down every single day phase, and i feel like it stopped when I started pushing LLD.
Possible. Not sure what you mean by Hatcheting sorry.

I think if you’re scum’s pawn (which I think is your argument) then more than likely they kill Klick or Ranger because their reads were probably right (note to self look at reads they had) if you’re loud and wrong then scum keep you alive and let you go wrong.

I’d find if you were pushing mostly scum until LLD you’d be the bigger threat.

Makes me think if you’re good your Black read is probably bad.

I would look at where Ranger and Klick agreed on scum if anywhere
Chainsaw, but instead of pushing them as scum, you say they’re town and discredit
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Post Post #5852 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:23 pm

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In post 5850, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 5845, Firebringer wrote:
In post 5844, Flavor Leaf wrote: I feel like scum are town reading me, but killing off the people town reading me
he's onto me
I can’t see you doing it two games in a row.

Cakez saw me get wrecked last game as town getting pocketed.

Like I knew I was pocketed, and couldn’t get out of it.

But I can’t see Cakez doing that to me right after it just happened so blatantly.

Like if Firebringer/Cakez are somehow scum, I’m aware I could be getting pocketed, I just don’t see it.

Does this make sense? It’s like so bold and almost pointless. They’d have to be actively trolling me to be scum imo, in a way it just doesn’t seem worth it to hyperfixate on me that much.

Like a little, sure, I’m of the mind scum should have a hyperfixate on every slot in the game, but that’s so much.
I do agree FB probably town here
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Post Post #5853 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:23 pm

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How have you played with me that much and not heard of hatcheting, i bring it up every game
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Post Post #5854 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:23 pm

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In post 5854, MathBlade wrote: I do agree FB probably town here
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Post Post #5855 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:24 pm

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I’m not scum’s pawn, i ain’t being warlocked here.

Im just being out in a little bit of a box on a leash, and they let me out a few times to be cute and so people can play for a bit, but then when i cross over the line, they got a shock collar on me.
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Post Post #5856 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:25 pm

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In post 5853, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 5852, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5844, Flavor Leaf wrote: I feel like scum are town reading me, but killing off the people town reading me, like Klick and Ranger.

Like Black fits the bill of Hardcore Hatcheting me.

They’re saying I’m town, but they’ve been chopping me down every single day phase, and i feel like it stopped when I started pushing LLD.
Possible. Not sure what you mean by Hatcheting sorry.

I think if you’re scum’s pawn (which I think is your argument) then more than likely they kill Klick or Ranger because their reads were probably right (note to self look at reads they had) if you’re loud and wrong then scum keep you alive and let you go wrong.

I’d find if you were pushing mostly scum until LLD you’d be the bigger threat.

Makes me think if you’re good your Black read is probably bad.

I would look at where Ranger and Klick agreed on scum if anywhere
Chainsaw, but instead of pushing them as scum, you say they’re town and discredit
Seems a waste. I think that is a bad move. Because if you’re town and left alive with Black scum, then you’d have a lot of cred for pushing them. Not sure how they’re discrediting you here Flavor.
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Post Post #5857 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:25 pm

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In post 5851, Firebringer wrote:
In post 5847, Lazy Shirou wrote: quick! hide FB!
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Post Post #5858 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:25 pm

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In post 5855, Flavor Leaf wrote: How have you played with me that much and not heard of hatcheting, i bring it up every game
I’ve been offsite for 6+ months.

And I don’t recall you using it sorry.
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Post Post #5859 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:25 pm

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FB posting anime is like catching a shiny pokemon.

We must all appreciate it when it happens.
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Post Post #5860 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:26 pm

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In post 5852, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5844, Flavor Leaf wrote: I feel like scum are town reading me, but killing off the people town reading me, like Klick and Ranger.

Like Black fits the bill of Hardcore Hatcheting me.

They’re saying I’m town, but they’ve been chopping me down every single day phase, and i feel like it stopped when I started pushing LLD.
Possible. Not sure what you mean by Hatcheting sorry.

I think if you’re scum’s pawn (which I think is your argument) then more than likely they kill Klick or Ranger because their reads were probably right (note to self look at reads they had) if you’re loud and wrong then scum keep you alive and let you go wrong.

I’d find if you were pushing mostly scum until LLD you’d be the bigger threat.

Makes me think if you’re good your Black read is probably bad.


I would look at where Ranger and Klick agreed on scum if anywhere
I actually really don’t like this logic, and seems agenda-y, but I also don’t 100% think Black is scum.

I feel like the classic is having scum in my grasps, but it falls out in the claw machine and leaves me on the townie.

And there’s no way of knowing if I wasn’t pushing scum as of now, so that’s a weird comment. For all I know, I could have been pushing scum, and would be flabbergasted if I wasn’t at some point.
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Post Post #5861 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:27 pm

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In post 5856, Firebringer wrote:
In post 5854, MathBlade wrote: I do agree FB probably town here
My spidey senses are going crazy
Lazy Shirou's lazy take is that if Mala flips town we should kill Math

alternatively we just kill Math today

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if Math is scum I'm not sure StD is scum
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Post Post #5862 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:27 pm

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In post 5858, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5853, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 5852, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5844, Flavor Leaf wrote: I feel like scum are town reading me, but killing off the people town reading me, like Klick and Ranger.

Like Black fits the bill of Hardcore Hatcheting me.

They’re saying I’m town, but they’ve been chopping me down every single day phase, and i feel like it stopped when I started pushing LLD.
Possible. Not sure what you mean by Hatcheting sorry.

I think if you’re scum’s pawn (which I think is your argument) then more than likely they kill Klick or Ranger because their reads were probably right (note to self look at reads they had) if you’re loud and wrong then scum keep you alive and let you go wrong.

I’d find if you were pushing mostly scum until LLD you’d be the bigger threat.

Makes me think if you’re good your Black read is probably bad.

I would look at where Ranger and Klick agreed on scum if anywhere
Chainsaw, but instead of pushing them as scum, you say they’re town and discredit
Seems a waste. I think that is a bad move. Because if you’re town and left alive with Black scum, then you’d have a lot of cred for pushing them. Not sure how they’re discrediting you here Flavor.
They’ve been doing it all game.

Like it’s not opinion.

You just haven’t read the game, so idk why you’re commenting and acting that way
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Post Post #5863 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:28 pm

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In post 5844, Flavor Leaf wrote: I feel like scum are town reading me, but killing off the people town reading me, like Klick and Ranger.
I was trying to guess who scum was gonna kill so I could protect that person. Didn’t think this at all and now that it’s out scum will probably change up the pattern, leaving me guessing again.
I wonder if MH coached Italiano at all or if that was just rock solid scum play start to finish.
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Post Post #5864 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:28 pm

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Like if Black is scum, it’s 100% fact it’s what they were doing.

If they’re town, they’re still doing it, just not to a scum agenda.

I’m not questioning if it’s being done or not
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Post Post #5865 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:28 pm

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this is pretty weak sauce but im kind of at the point where i just gonna townread players who replace out so im leaving math at town.
I mean not all replace outs are town but the longer this game goes on the more im like yeah i can see town not having fun here and leaving

Which paradoxically will lead to more replace outs to get townread but then my true and ultimate goal is to make this game the most replaced out game in history.

Which alisae has told me e doesn't approve of.
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Post Post #5866 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:29 pm

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the unique reason I'm not gonna push Math right now is that for all I know people may be right on Malakittens and I don't want to be negative utility today if that's the case

Math feels a bit too comfortable pushing an agenda for a game that he just replaced in + apparently hasn't read much yet
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Post Post #5867 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:29 pm

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In post 5867, Firebringer wrote: this is pretty weak sauce but im kind of at the point where i just gonna townread players who replace out so im leaving math at town.
I mean not all replace outs are town but the longer this game goes on the more im like yeah i can see town not having fun here and leaving

Which paradoxically will lead to more replace outs to get townread but then my true and ultimate goal is to make this game the most replaced out game in history.

Which alisae has told me e doesn't approve of.
Norwegian replaced out of all their games.
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Post Post #5868 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:30 pm

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In post 5869, Flavor Leaf wrote: Norwegian replaced out of all their games.
yes and i know the reason for why.
I townread his slot before any replace outs though.
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Post Post #5869 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:31 pm

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Math playing that way is a little too bold for scum who just replaced in, I think. Not impossible, but it makes me lean town there since I was leaning town on Norwegian.

Their end of day Day 2 i could see coming from scum, but i think im fine with Math overall for now
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Post Post #5870 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:32 pm

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In post 5870, Firebringer wrote:
In post 5869, Flavor Leaf wrote: Norwegian replaced out of all their games.
yes and i know the reason for why.
I townread his slot before any replace outs though.
I’m in the same boat with Norwegian, they’re e6, right?

Just didn’t like the replacement comment, I guess
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Post Post #5871 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:32 pm

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I don't see anything bold about just sheeping another player, trying to pivot on Enchant and reverting when called out for it
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Post Post #5872 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:33 pm

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In post 5873, Lazy Shirou wrote: I don't see anything bold about just sheeping another player, trying to pivot on Enchant and reverting when called out for it
I don’t even recall that moment
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Post Post #5873 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:33 pm

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In post 5862, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 5852, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5844, Flavor Leaf wrote: I feel like scum are town reading me, but killing off the people town reading me, like Klick and Ranger.

Like Black fits the bill of Hardcore Hatcheting me.

They’re saying I’m town, but they’ve been chopping me down every single day phase, and i feel like it stopped when I started pushing LLD.
Possible. Not sure what you mean by Hatcheting sorry.

I think if you’re scum’s pawn (which I think is your argument) then more than likely they kill Klick or Ranger because their reads were probably right (note to self look at reads they had) if you’re loud and wrong then scum keep you alive and let you go wrong.

I’d find if you were pushing mostly scum until LLD you’d be the bigger threat.

Makes me think if you’re good your Black read is probably bad.


I would look at where Ranger and Klick agreed on scum if anywhere
I actually really don’t like this logic, and seems agenda-y, but I also don’t 100% think Black is scum.

I feel like the classic is having scum in my grasps, but it falls out in the claw machine and leaves me on the townie.

And there’s no way of knowing if I wasn’t pushing scum as of now, so that’s a weird comment. For all I know, I could have been pushing scum, and would be flabbergasted if I wasn’t at some point.

???

No agenda present.

I am assuming your premise is true but then reaching a weird conclusion. It means your premise is unlikely true. Is it certain? No.

It’s more of a strategy thing:

Do I in a game where scum are stomping, leave the player with correct reads alive? Or do I kill the one with correct reads?

It’s usually the latter. Is it airtight? No.

You said you and Klick and Ranger disagreed on reads (if I followed) then it’s more likely they’re right.

I push reads based on VCA when I replace in.

Y’all don’t want to wait for me to read 200 posts before posting.

I get vibes from how people respond.

If there was a valid defense of Mala I’d have swapped to that defender and Mala to town/neutral.

But since there is an imho good Mala case and people try to distract makes me more certain she is scum combined with older experiences.
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Post Post #5874 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:33 pm

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God they really need to increase artifact limit...1500 is so little after almost 3 years in Teyvat...
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