Micro 1085: Even/Odd Killers [GAME OVER]

[JasonWazza]

Votecount 1.14

Appearance (2) - Merlyn, Roden
Thestatusquo (2) - Donempire, sheepsaysmeep
donempire (1) - Datisi
Datisi (1) - Deltabreedy
Deltabreedy (1) - fireisredsir
Sheepsaysmeep (1) - Thestatusquo

Not voting (1) - Appearance

(expired on 2023-07-05 18:05:27) remain until day end

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to reach a majority.

Moderators note: Deltabreedy will be considered on a minor V/LA for the 30th and the 1st

[fireisredsir]

sheep is probably either town or im gonna let him pocket me

[fireisredsir]

i guess sk is believably someone who could have scumhunting opinions but not care deeply about pushing them into thread

idk how to sk hunt

[Thestatusquo]

I dont struggle to produce good thoughts as wolf

funnily that was basically the early push on me last game

I just find it harder soooometimes as villager to find the motivation to type up for u guys what im thinking lmaoo like screw u all

I don't really feel like this is true. I've played with town you a lot and while your thoughts are short and not in depth they're always there and I always am able to follow your thought process.

Here, not even a little bit.

[Thestatusquo]

sheep is probably either town or im gonna let him pocket me

this shit is so fucking frustrating tbh.

[Merlyn]

i've caught up now and i'm leaning towards delta being confbiased town.
i personally feel like it's just poor wording on his behalf and he genuinely beliefs that he's right about dats.
tbh an interesting point i've seen from delta would be that fire's been pretty defensive of dats, which imo is odd delta would put them higher than merlyn yet seem to not have a favourable opinion of.

I see the fact that Delta didn't have those interactions with FB yet before writing this posts has already been addressed, but I have a different question- why did you bring me, specifically, up? FB is ahead of sheep, you, me, and Datsi all on the list.

Readslist
- Town
Me
Shea - Vibes, feels scumhunty and has the willingness and energy to drive content and arguments.

Don - Felt like a bit of driftwood up until the argument on Appearance, which did have a bit of an effect on me. More town than Roden, less town than Shea for me.

Roden - Weird one this, I get the sense that they aren't adding a whole amount. I've just read the game, right - and I can't recall one post, just a general unease with the slot.
Fire - Feels a bit happy to townread folks on a whim, and the arguments so far don't really have any sway on me or my thoughts so far.
Sheep - I don't think they came off as well as they could have done earlier in the game.

Appearance - Another odd one - I get the sense that Appearance is playing for friends than playing to find scum? I agree with Don's argument and it'd be a flip of a coin to see them drop below Merlyn. Of all the slots I think this one is most likely to be the SK.
Merlyn - I think the page 2 avoidance of addressing the E-1, combined with what has felt like at times some quite drifty/actively lurky gameplay plus the arguably bad-faith argument with Appearance maybe felt just a bit too much off the mark. It seemed genuine when I read it but on reflection (and I won't edit the above, so as to show my thought process), the whole exchange felt a bit confrontational as opposed to genuine belief that Appearance was scum.

Datisi - Most consistent scumread. I've not felt that Datisi's contributions lead much in the way towards scumhunting - I feel like the intent just isn't there and I'm keen to see this slot go today.
- Scum

[Thestatusquo]

honestly not sure what town!fires motivation for trying to chop down me down there is though.

doesn't really serve any purpose for actually expressing a read on sheep or for actually discerning either of our alignments. Seems only designed to express a town read that can be pointed back to later tbh.

[Thestatusquo]

i stg only merlyn is town.

[Thestatusquo]

tell you what I'm willing to vote anyone besides merlyn.

[Thestatusquo]

hero solve is sheep is sk fire/appearance scum team. Datisi could be swapped in for any and all. Delta could be scum trying to pocket me. I didn't get much pings in any direction from black that I can remember.

Don/rodon are whatever.

[fireisredsir]

honestly not sure what town!fires motivation for trying to chop down me down there is though.

doesn't really serve any purpose for actually expressing a read on sheep or for actually discerning either of our alignments. Seems only designed to express a town read that can be pointed back to later tbh.

uhh sorry?

sheep posted some stuff and i had a reaction to it and i posted my thoughts

it didn't really have anything to do with you

[fireisredsir]

i thought your initial poke was fine and reasonable and didn't have anything to say about it

then i think sheep's response made me think he was town, i already kinda was lightly leaning in that direction but not that much

[Thestatusquo]

What "stuff"

What was "your reaction" that you had?

and why?

Because all sheep posted was some thoughts that were parroting things others have said from like 4 pages ago so I'm insanely curious.

[fireisredsir]

I dont struggle to produce good thoughts as wolf

funnily that was basically the early push on me last game

I just find it harder soooometimes as villager to find the motivation to type up for u guys what im thinking lmaoo like screw u all

I don't really feel like this is true. I've played with town you a lot and while your thoughts are short and not in depth they're always there and I always am able to follow your thought process.

Here, not even a little bit.

like here i just have a different reaction

i feel like i can see where his thoughts are coming from and i can follow his thought process

and yeah they kinda align with things other people including me have said but i don't think that's an inherently scummy thing unless he's trying to pocket me which was my follow up thought but i don't think he really has to try lol

[Thestatusquo]

what thoughts

[Thestatusquo]

please be explicit. What things did sheep say that made you think he was town?

[Thestatusquo]

which "thoughts" are you following, exactly?

[fireisredsir]

idk you can read the posts yourself and if you think they're lacking then me repeating what is in them is not gonna do anything for you or satisfy you so i can already tell this interaction is going to suck but whatever

- finding you scummy but not really feeling like the reasons are very good and so not particularly wanting to push on them
- feeling like the game is lacking in things that are needing to be talked about and just generally not being motivated to talk to people here or force content out
- going back and forth on delta

it just feels like he's looking at the game from more or less similar perspective as i am

[Merlyn]

Busting in with a readslist!

Spoiler: Warning, Wall Ahead

Roden- seems very towny to me, interacting with a bunch of players and pushing them. I tend to find what they say reasonable

Shea- Day one I’m going with town. Yeah, I badly misread Shea in our last game lol but I can’t let that shake me, and I think the posts in this game are looking to solve. I’m thinking that if Shea is scum/SK, they aren’t going to be easily detected in D1 anyway.

Delta- this is feeling very town delta to me. I don’t agree with the argument that got made that this line of thinking is unlike him as town- he confident, brash and in your face regardless of alignment and tend to hang on to a point like a bulldog with a bone. I actually find that to be part of his hunting process, so I think he’s trying to sus out Daitsi here and that’s all. But hey, it’s early days so I could easily be off the mark here

Fire- they were kind of flying under my radar until Delta showed up. I’m leaning town- I don’t really think they would just blatantly defend a scumbuddy like that, I read this as genuinely getting fired up about what Delta was talking about. Uh, no pun intended

Don- 12 posts, null read

Sheep- Null- these posts could come from town or scum?

Datisi- Guess I have to get this out of the way now- I don’t think Daitisi perspective slipped, and I think the idea of outrage has been overblown. A little bit of ego on display, but I sure haven’t found that to be alignment indicative in mafia. The main thing I notice about them is that there really hasn’t been any active scum hunting, they’re playing in a more reactive way.

Appearance- I don’t feel like talking about that ‘meta-read’ they did on me again. The bottom line is that I have to decide if that was in good faith or not, and I don’t think it was. The over apologies ping me too. The biggest argument that it’s in good faith that’s been made is “I know who their main is, and this is very in character of them”. How can you expect me to accept that argument? Furthermore, Appearance says they’re an alt trying to use a different style of play, so how does that exonerate them? Their subsequent posts haven’t changed my thoughts on them

[Merlyn]

sheep
datisi appearance roden
fire??
donempire merlyn
black tsq

I think fireisredsir is town

I flipped a lot between "delta is wolfy because I find these takes just like, not good enough" and "Delta is town because he really does believe this stuff" and ive landed at probably wolf
like the datisi push I just find it kinda hard-to-believab weakly founded, as well as like, calling shea top town here for "solvy vibes" I simply do not like it

Hey sheep, I see that fire has moved up to town since yesterday, what helped you decide this?

[sheepsaysmeep]

the lots of chiming in against delta on datisi's behalf

I think scum would be self conscious that it looks like buddy/pocket whatever while town!him would just do that argument himself cuz he believes in one side of it

[Merlyn]

the lots of chiming in against delta on datisi's behalf

I think scum would be self conscious that it looks like buddy/pocket whatever while town!him would just do that argument himself cuz he believes in one side of it

That's my take as well

[Thestatusquo]

I dont think fires read of sheep feels even remotely real and my experience with town fire is he tends to poke and prod all over the place and hes not doing that. I don't think I've ever played with him as scum though so I'll need to read a scum game.

[JasonWazza]

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