In post 357, Appearance wrote:
i've caught up now and i'm leaning towards delta being confbiased town.
i personally feel like it's just poor wording on his behalf and he genuinely beliefs that he's right about dats.
tbh an interesting point i've seen from delta would be that fire's been pretty defensive of dats, which imo is odd delta would put them higher than merlyn yet seem to not have a favourable opinion of.
I see the fact that Delta didn't have those interactions with FB yet before writing this posts has already been addressed, but I have a different question- why did you bring me, specifically, up? FB is ahead of sheep, you, me, and Datsi all on the list.
i'll assume that fb here is talking about fire, who you confused with a player not present rn.
i brought u up because u were the second lowest and the way delta talked about fire after the readslist didn't feel at all like he liked their play this game. for example, he compared to them to a rottweiler in 344. meanwhile, he only asked u for reads but otherwise seemed more focused on dats and fire.
i don't think that most people in this game have done very much that is readable so currently the bar for what gives me a read on someone is fairly low
appearance i think some of the reasons that he was pushed over were bad and probably scummy which kinda makes me lean town but independent of that i don't particularly townread him. so.... eh
i don't really know how to read merlyn bc from bits and pieces that ive seen of her play, i don't really understand her process or mindset as town and that makes it so i struggle to figure out if her thoughts are real or not
I feel like Shea and Merlyn are walking step and step together without directly interacting with each other all that much. Like making votes/pushes that either follow the other or benefit the other by redirecting heat onto someone else when they were racking up votes early on.
could've been a smaller number of posts and doesnt really actually say much (particularly "I dont see why x is scum" is a wolf-tell imo; other posts ping me for basically the exact same reason)
pretty much what I was picking up on. It's a lot of "content" that says like almost nothing.
in particular the comment "this thing could be NAI for her" just like pings me to hell. Like of course it could be but you ain't getting an answer to that question from a 30 second skim of an iso.
In post 93, Appearance wrote:
a quick iso of our last game together shows she tends to be white-knighty and does dumbtell as scum
Who is this post about?
u obviously
I can't imagine why this would be about me. We have never played a completed game together first off. As far as I know, the only time we've interacted with each other is in an ongoing game, which a) we can't talk about, b) I replaced out of in twelve posts, and c) as far as I know my replacement is still playing and thus you have no idea what alignment.
Then later on, Shea's vote on Sheep vote just seems like a vanity vote with no real momentum, and it comes in at a time where wagons were already starting to die and votes were getting spread out. There's no real urgency to case Sheep though and instead he just kind of aimlessly argued with random people.
In post 372, Thestatusquo wrote:
Actually fuck it I think this is just not town sheep at all.
What gives me pause is that he's had a pretty flippant attitude, which I think is town for him? But at the same time, I don't think he's accomplishing much and I remember him being more impactful. The high post count is there, but it's just...there.
In post 402, Appearance wrote:
tho tbh fire does seem worse now and i would like an explanation for that sheep read.
I still think Appearance is scummy though and posts like these are just bleh. Fire is worse, but worse how? As it is, it just looks like piggy backing on revent sentiment. And with no vote to go with it this also feels toothless.
I have a lot of scum reads because so many people are being scummy.
This is extremely abnormal for me as either alignment.
Feel free to read either garlic bread or my team Mafia game. My town game is typically to end up with a lot of town reads so I mimic that as scum. Here I have basically no town reads because everyone is being sketchy as shit.
Ironically this is about as far out of my scum range as I ever go as town. Because my usual town range involves finding lots of town reads I just don't usually mimic the times where I can't find them as scum at all.
Shrug. That's self meta but you can go and read my recent games yourself. It's quite obviously true.
i don't really know how to read merlyn bc from bits and pieces that ive seen of her play, i don't really understand her process or mindset as town and that makes it so i struggle to figure out if her thoughts are real or not
Have fun, kill scum. I'm really not that complicated
In post 418, Thestatusquo wrote:
Also the claim that my scum play would be to scum read everyone but my partner merlyn explicitly and loudly is kind of insulting.
Bruh you know I just won team Mafia as scum right? What the fuck.
In post 411, Roden wrote:
I feel like Shea and Merlyn are walking step and step together without directly interacting with each other all that much. Like making votes/pushes that either follow the other or benefit the other by redirecting heat onto someone else when they were racking up votes early on.
I kind of do get this though. There was a point where I felt like Shea had sort of gotten the heat from Appearance off of me by talking to him about tone, and for some reason I went away thinking Shea thought we were TvT, and I was surprised to realize he was still voting appearance. But I was okay with his answer when I asked him about it.
I get the theory behind it on a conceptual level but once you get to the details it breaks down.
It requires me to a) be completely and openly linking myself to a partner which is something I'm pretty good at doing the exact opposite of and b) requires me to think that relieving RVS pressure is somehow worth doing that when it's not and c) implies that my play as scum this game would be based off of protecting my partner and controlling the thread when I think the clearly optimal play this game for scum would be to simply sk hunt.
I don't think any of those things are true, but I do kind of see the thought process behind the thought I just wish it would go a level deeper in it's analysis and look at whether scum! Shea would actually be playing the way he is describing.
I think the characterization of me not having 'bite' to my pushes is straight up wrong though and I promise you I'm perfectly capable of pushing with bite as scum and in fact being conflicted is much more of a Hallmark of my town game though obviously I try to replicate it.
