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[Roden]

I think it would be kinda integral here for me to have a reason to fake a town read on you as scum

I can think of multiple, but it's really moot and irrelevant to my claim if you think about it.

No. Tell me what you think my reason is.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Divert Suspicion: By faking a townread on another player, you can divert suspicion away from yourself. If you're vocally suspicious of everyone, others may view you as overly aggressive and start to suspect that you're Scum.

Building Trust: By correctly identifying someone as a town member when they are later proven to be a town member, you can build trust with the other players. They might think that you are a reliable player, which could give you more sway in later discussions.

Manipulating Voting: If you've managed to convince others that your townread is accurate, you can potentially manipulate the voting to ensure that other players who are actually Town are voted off instead.

Late Game Control: If the player you're townreading is a non-threatening town role, keeping them alive and under your influence can help in late-game scenarios.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Do you want more reasons or is this enough to demonstrate that it's moot and irrelevant?

[Klick]

Yesterday was actually the worst day of the year so far
I'll try to get around to this tonight

[Roden]

I didn't ask you to look up the wiki for newbscum tells.

Tell me, based off of our interactions in every single game we've ever had, what could possibly be a motive for me to town read you Day 1.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Roden, there's a lot of reasons for you to do it. That's the point. Scum townread Town all the time. It's moot and irrelevant.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Is it my turn yet?

[Umlaut]

Vote Count 1.3

Elements (3):

curiouskarmadog, geraintm, Greeting

Roden (2):

Elements, humaneatingmonkey

clidd (1):

furtiveglance

curiouskarmadog (1):

clidd

OopsieDaisy (1):

Klick

Not voting (5):

Emperor flippyNips, Morning Tweet, OopsieDaisy, Takutai, Roden


With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to drive someone out of town.

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[Roden]

Roden, there's a lot of reasons for you to do it. That's the point. Scum townread Town all the time. It's moot and irrelevant.

Why can't you answer the question

[humaneatingmonkey]

That's the answer buddy. Based off of our interactions in every single game we've ever had, you are just a normal player who would employ normal tactics - just like everybody else. If you were scum, there's a lot of motive for you to townread me on Day 1 - including the reasons I cited.

[humaneatingmonkey]

My turn! My turn!

[Roden]

Ok, I guess you don't want to say the part that makes your accusation nonsense

In every single game, we've always come into conflict with each other. And in every single Day 1, I've scum read you. I've been town every time I've done so.

So explain this to me. What does scum me gain from making myself stand out and town read you when that goes against your experience with me?

The answer is that I don't gain anything, it would just raise red flags. We both know this, and you're pointedly avoiding having to acknowledge this because you know it comes in conflict with your accusation. I do think I pinged you in some way, but you just don't know what it is.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Roden, do you mean to say that townreading me makes you scum because every time you were town - you scumread me?

Of course not! Be reasonable. That's not a valid expectation to have. Every game is unique and there will be a lot of factors.

The reason why I scumread you is different. It's because you bullshitted your reads on me.

[Roden]

you are just a normal player who would employ normal tactics

[humaneatingmonkey]

another classic sassy gif that i will definitely use in the future, just so you wait.

[Roden]

Roden, do you mean to say that townreading me makes you scum because every time you were town - you scumread me?

Of course not! Be reasonable. That's not a valid expectation to have. Every game is unique and there will be a lot of factors.

The reason why I scumread you is different. It's because you bullshitted your reads on me.

I think you find me suspicious because I'm interacting with you differently and that's enough to ping you

[humaneatingmonkey]

No Roden. I find you suspicious because you bullshitted your reads on me and are now actively reframing why I find you suspicious.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Oh come on, we're not gonna have this row for another two pages. Are we? I will not change my mind about why I find you suspicious, try as you might. If you want to change my mind, you will engage with my earlier original question instead if you prefer to keep this short.

[Roden]

Uh huh

Anyway, what's the real issue here?

[humaneatingmonkey]

We have a very good conversation from #443 to #449 and if you want our conversation to progress, you will have to come back to that and address it. Otherwise, we will just spam the thread.

*smoke bomb*

[Roden]

I don't have anything else to add. You're just wrong. If you think I bullshitted my reads then campaign for my head.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I don't have anything else to add.

Ta-da! There you go! You cannot add to it because you will never demonstrate that there's anything in my posts that can distinguish that I am not scheming. Because it's a ridiculous read that can only come from an informed POV!

[Roden]

We could talk about other scum reads though.

[Roden]

I don't have anything else to add.

Ta-da! There you go! You cannot add to it because you will never demonstrate that there's anything in my posts that can distinguish that I am not scheming. Because it's a ridiculous read that can only come from an informed POV!

I genuinely don't understand what this means

[humaneatingmonkey]

Maybe after I come back. Ciao.

*takes off in my harley davidson*