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[humaneatingmonkey]

roden's never been difficult for me. i dont know if youre purpisely ignoring that roden is lying about his portrayal of the games by not validating it. but please, in no games he linked was he ever the main reason why i was elimmed as town and scum - - and when i was scum, i won against him

[humaneatingmonkey]

i wont even mentioned the newbie game where i replaced into a game and immediately caught roden as scum... because that was his first site on the game.

but my knowledge of his meta isnt why i want him eliminated.

its that he lied about his knowledg of my meta TWICE to try and discredit me and to scumcase me.

[Klick]

Also Mod,

going to be out of pocket between 07/01 until 07/05

reminder mod.


at any rate, I wont have time to read today (packing now), and probably wont be able to get to this until 07/05 evening. After deadline.

I understand how Day 1s go though, someone has to go. might as well be me.

My claim is Vanilla Town.....have at it.

remember look as who jumped on who AND when....and their reasons..

This comes from town a really large proportion of the time.

The assumption if CKD is scum is that they're in a very different mindset than they are expressing in their claim and subsequent posts
I don't read CKD as that cheeky for minimal expected benefit

@ curiouskarmadog doubters: I want engagement on this point

[Takutai]

roden's never been difficult for me. i dont know if youre purpisely ignoring that roden is lying about his portrayal of the games by not validating it. but please, in no games he linked was he ever the main reason why i was elimmed as town and scum - - and when i was scum, i won against him

I don't care about the meta, I know Roden can flip scum. But Roden scum is someone who has value alive. Karma town hasn't convinced me of such.

[humaneatingmonkey]

didnt you just hear karma town carried their last game? if roden is town then it is still true that hss been misrepresenting meta. and only one of them claimed in a townie way. im not sure you should be weighing karma's value less.

[Takutai]

For instance, if Roden is scum, it's a goon. And if this isn't a hyperbrain monke bus, you're likely spewed town. I want to see who else Roden scum is willing to spew if they survive a possible vigilante.

[Takutai]

didnt you just hear karma town carried their last game? if roden is town then it is still true that hss been misrepresenting meta. and only one of them claimed in a townie way. im not sure you should be weighing karma's value less.

My answer is very simple and will be like this, always: I judge a game by itself. In this game, I have nips and karma as mega lurkers and geraintm on the upper side of lurk effort.

In this game, curious is likely vanilla town and has demonstrated no intent or drive. I work with what I have.

[humaneatingmonkey]

that doesnt make any sense. flupped scum + spewed and killed town is more important to town and gamestate than eliminating possibly town claim who might possibly have good reads. and then we'll get a night kill anyway.

huh

[Roden]

Honestly, I don't think Karma is scum, and their lack of participation is at least justified because of VLA. If we're voting off low participation players, I'd rather flip Nips, though it's a useless flip if they're town since we wouldn't get much info.

If flipping me gives the best info and potentially solves other slots then my final read are:

TOWN
Karma
Elements
Greeting
Tweet
Daisy
Takutai

NULL
Clidd
Geraintm
Klick

SCUM
Nips
Furtive
HEM

If I'm wrong and the solve is something dumb, then do a double take on Elements. It's the only town read that would blind side me besides maybe Tweet, but I seriously don't think Tweet could be scum. If HEM is somehow town then I have uh, concerns, with the way he interacted with me this game that I'll talk with him about in the post game.

[Klick]

I don't think you should be satisfied with killing likely vanilla town.

[Klick]

I want to hear about your confidence in Tweet!town Roden

[Roden]

I want to hear about your confidence in Tweet!town Roden

Kinda want to town lock Tweet even though it feels a bit silly to do this early. I get the feeling she wanted to roll town and was relieved when she opened her role PM. Based off of what I'm hearing of the last mini, it might be because of that?

It's from this, plus all of her recent posts have on point.

[Takutai]

I don't think you should be satisfied with killing likely vanilla town.

I am. You can choose between Roden or Karma. You or Oopsie or someone else who want to stretch this day out for some reason can do so. I have laid out where I am. My scum pile might be elements/oopsiedaisy/geraintm/klick/roden/(?furtive/?clidd) but it is definetely broader than that barring two for now.

[Roden]

roden's never been difficult for me. i dont know if youre purpisely ignoring that roden is lying about his portrayal of the games by not validating it. but please, in no games he linked was he ever the main reason why i was elimmed as town and scum - - and when i was scum, i won against him

Why are you lying

I literally linked a game where you wrongly death tunneled me Day 1

Like what is the point of blatant gaslighting like this

[humaneatingmonkey]

okay we still have takutai on board

hem, klick, takutai, geraintm

and maybe we still have
elements, emperor, clidd

we can still do it. end the day!

[humaneatingmonkey]

roden's never been difficult for me. i dont know if youre purpisely ignoring that roden is lying about his portrayal of the games by not validating it. but please, in no games he linked was he ever the main reason why i was elimmed as town and scum - - and when i was scum, i won against him

Why are you lying

I literally linked a game where you wrongly death tunneled me Day 1

Like what is the point of blatant gaslighting like this

why are YOU lying

i did win that game. and is the reason why you scumread me on game 1 the reason youre scumreading me now?

[Klick]

No Takutai's saying they think Roden is scum and Karma is town but they want to vote Karma and not Roden

[humaneatingmonkey]

Takutai's hammering

[Takutai]

No Takutai's saying they think Roden is scum and Karma is town but they want to vote Karma and not Roden

Roden can be scum. Don't expect certainty from me on first days unless there's a bastard day cop or something along those lines.

[Roden]

roden's never been difficult for me. i dont know if youre purpisely ignoring that roden is lying about his portrayal of the games by not validating it. but please, in no games he linked was he ever the main reason why i was elimmed as town and scum - - and when i was scum, i won against him

Why are you lying

I literally linked a game where you wrongly death tunneled me Day 1

Like what is the point of blatant gaslighting like this

why are YOU lying

i did win that game. and is the reason why you scumread me on game 1 the reason youre scumreading me now?

In the game I linked where we were TvT we BOTH LOST

We have had exactly one game where I was scum and you were town and it was TWO years when I was brand new to forum mafia

You do not have relevant info on how I play as scum and it's pretty blatant you don't know anything relevant about my meta since you haven't correctly read me ever since that game

[Elements]

VOTE: HEM

[Takutai]

No Takutai's saying they think Roden is scum and Karma is town but they want to vote Karma and not Roden

The only other vote I'll place between them is no elimination.

[Takutai]

VOTE: HEM

For instance, this needs to die.

[Takutai]

The possible wagon I mean that could sound harsh!

[Takutai]

Monke is a keeper for now.