Weird Dreams Mafia Redux [Finished]

[usesPython]

Is... is this really Python, can someone go check and make sure their account didn't get hacked or something because this "stop talking about mech" and "idk they just vibe town" is really confusing me

How does this influence your read on us?

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[sheepsaysmeep]

ok time to stop trying for another 15 pages

I would push people to start trying now to develop some reads and share them. I have a lot of people marked off as unreadable/iffy because they've been present but waiting around for mech talk to be over. it's basically over. if you dont have time to read the parts with mech stuff then a good approach could be to ISO people who are not python or rauthe

Okay, I'll start with you

snivy - feels pretty wolf. in general their early posting was the most stiff. treatment of ranger feels like buddying ("wow you're doing readlists every post?! that's so game-advancing and towny" for something I think is fairly clearly predetermined playstyle).

if im your only confident scumread then vote me

also is this implying me and ranger are scum buddies despite you saying you think ranger is townie?

it feels weird to read the words I said and consider that confident? I mildly dislike that as a sort of overreaction

and the implication is that ranger is villager and you are trying to gain their favor

I went back and I don't really think Snivy is overreacting?

ok I read the game

dragoneater70 - originally I found them the scummiest tonally. they felt very performative/LAMIST, such as with lots of literally saying "let's do something game-advancing now" (no one says that when doing something game-advancing now). but then someone said this felt like town!dragoneater from last game. and I sort of just believe that maybe that way of writing that I found scummy is playstyle. so now I no longer want to push it and

it's a potential townread

pending me one day skimming the game in question

ranger - I think they are

lightly villagery.

their first readlists aligned a lotttt with what I was feeling in early pages.

radical rat - I like their push that rauth is too obsessed with finding the IC alternatives. like it is a just a good push. it actually

makes me feel more RR!town

than rauth!wolf; im slightly skeptical of it as making rauth wolf because it's almost too egregious (python saying "I'll policy the next person to talk about mech" and then rauth keeps talking about mech feels like something wolves might want to avoid ??)

usespython - when I was just lurking they felt like 99% obvtown on vibes. when I read through it's more

meh but still prob just town

morning tweet - gut says

slightly scummy

. I just thought her takes were mid in 150 I was not feeling them lol

Titus - if I had to force a read their vibe fits with what I understand of their town meta lol but

meh

Kyoko - if this is their first time trying the weird scum meter thing (if I didnt misunderstand) then I'd honestly give

a couple town points lmao. otherwise very meh

snivy -

feels pretty wolf.

in general their early posting was the most stiff. treatment of ranger feels like buddying ("wow you're doing readlists every post?! that's so game-advancing and towny" for something I think is fairly clearly predetermined playstyle).

abnegation - my gut says this is what

I think newer-player villagers

look like

That looks like Snivy is your most confident scumread. Everyone else but MT is shades of town, and MT is 'slightly scummy' vs Snivy's 'pretty wolf'. And then for some reason you backed down so quickly on this, just a few posts later!

ok he is being villagery VOTE: Abnegation

You had Abnegation updated to 'meh'- why her and not MT based on your own list reads?

I would also personally like to be in the topic for picking stuff if we decide it privately

I am just generally pretty good at mech and also at choosing cop peek targets, which I think the average person is very shit at

This is a small thing but if you're pretty good at mech, why did you join only in the mech discussion with one post (actually, one line of one post)?

I could go this way. VOTE: sheep

ok I was going to go away but sadly I am addicted to mafia so I will answer these

[sheepsaysmeep]

-snivy was definitely my most confident wolfread at the time I wrote my readlist. but at the same time, he wasn't at all a COnfident wolfread. and I dont feel like it seemed from what I wrote that I was

confident

he was mafia. at that time I would have said the chance was like, maybe 30%. basically, >rand.

So, the overreaction to me is that snivy seemed to call it a confident wolfread, independently. "because im confident, why am I not voting him??" it felt wolfy because it felt like trying to shade me by grasping for something that wasn't there + strong reactions to relatively slight pressure is just a minor wolftell blah blah. I do totally get the logic that I should generally be voting my most confident wolfread tho. but I simply wasn't super compelled to join a wagon of size 0.


-drew described abgenation's main's playstyle as like, non-commitive and second-guessing. the longer I had information on who she was, and the more I thought about it, I was like yeah that seems right from what I know. I think it makes the overconfident vibe at the start of the game wolfy for her specifically. I thought what ive seen from her main is capable of being very towny and even though it is very early there is no glimpse of that so let's poke it

also she had just indicated intention to start catching up and I thought I would like to have a wagon on her while she does that. morning tweet otoh seemed like she was gonna pop in here and there every multitude of pages (very respectfully) and a vote would do almost nothing


-I did not talk much about mech discussion about nightmare redux because I agreed with the consensus conclusion that had already been reached

[Morning Tweet]

Agree Katy just vibed town really hard

[Morning Tweet]

Not that I've played with him ever, but you know how that goes

[Morning Tweet]

Merlyn's response to sheep is kind of nitpicky do you always vote in exact predictable fashion based on what you've written in previous posts, what if something changes or if you think about it differently later

I guess that's like, something you could say in response to any inconsistency ever. Is voting Abegnation over me scum indictative though ? Just, why?

I voted Abegneation because a bunch of votes, lots of fluff, no towniness, plus questioning why people that do townread them are townreading them sus! Plus, I guess I'm leaning Rauth is a townie who posts filler ? So might as well start there

[Morning Tweet]

I am caught up

I have no desire to talk about what I thought it's very confused

ok I was going to go away but sadly I am addicted to mafia so I will answer these

Lol mood

[usesPython]

Merlyn's response to sheep is kind of nitpicky do you always vote in exact predictable fashion based on what you've written in previous posts, what if something changes or if you think about it differently later

I guess that's like, something you could say in response to any inconsistency ever. Is voting Abegnation over me scum indictative though ? Just, why?

I voted Abegneation because a bunch of votes, lots of fluff, no towniness, plus questioning why people that do townread them are townreading them sus! Plus, I guess I'm leaning Rauth is a townie who posts filler ? So might as well start there

Hot take: consistency is scum indicative

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[KatyKimFanClub]

I notice a lot of talk about finding trustworthy people to put in the Nightmare. I would like to say that I am town, thus feel free to put me in there, coach(es).

Yuck.

I like we were are on the same page Titus, a whole lotta yuck here.

Was just trying to have a fun intro into the game as a replacement (also it would be nice to be in the Nightmare sort of like how it was fun to be picked on the dodgeball team in 5th grade)

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Why does Ranger think I'm the most towny person here? I've never played with Ranger, Titus, Doctor Drew, or Wheme before, so it's interesting to see the range of reactions to my few posts.

Idk why people think my removing Rauth from nightmare list is scummy. It seems like their usefulness in the mechanics debate as a foil/devil's advocate against IC is over now.

[usesPython]

Titus' push on KKFC is not scum!Titus pushing town!KKFC

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[Rautherdir]

To be fair I kept thinking that bulletproof IC was too powerful to just... Be allowed like that without something to mitigate it's power. So I assumed alternative strategies would be required. Though it really isn't as powerful and setup breaking as I kept thinking about given we're in a Korina game. (There's almost certainly a recruit mechanic of some kind)

[usesPython]

To be fair I kept thinking that bulletproof IC was too powerful to just... Be allowed like that without something to mitigate it's power. So I assumed alternative strategies would be required. Though it really isn't as powerful and setup breaking as I kept thinking about given we're in a Korina game. (There's almost certainly a recruit mechanic of some kind)

Are you still going on about how BP IC might not be that good? And also still talking about mech?

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[Rautherdir]

To be fair I kept thinking that bulletproof IC was too powerful to just... Be allowed like that without something to mitigate it's power. So I assumed alternative strategies would be required. Though it really isn't as powerful and setup breaking as I kept thinking about given we're in a Korina game. (There's almost certainly a recruit mechanic of some kind)

Are you still going on about how BP IC might not be that good? And also still talking about mech?

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Nah, it's still the best option we have, anything else would run into the same issue even quicker actually.

But also it's hard to defend yourself without talking about mech when the reasons people seem to be scum reading you are... based on mech.

[usesPython]

I meant this part

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Though it really isn't as powerful and setup breaking as I kept thinking about given we're in a Korina game. (There's almost certainly a recruit mechanic of some kind)

[Rautherdir]

Yeah. But that applies about equally to anything we give with Nightmare stuff. It does change the ability to publicly confirm one person a day/night cycle from 'this game would not be able to pass review' to 'this is heavily town sided but still ballancable' though, which is... why I thought I would need to be finding other ways to use Nightmare, cause I assumed there was something else doing that role.

[Rautherdir]

Not just public confirmation but bulletproof as well on the confirmed player. Once a day/night cycle that is... very hard to balance around.

[Aureal]

Is... is this really Python, can someone go check and make sure their account didn't get hacked or something because this "stop talking about mech" and "idk they just vibe town" is really confusing me

How does this influence your read on us?

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Maybe it doesn't, just my confusion levels

[Aureal]

Merlyn's response to sheep is kind of nitpicky do you always vote in exact predictable fashion based on what you've written in previous posts, what if something changes or if you think about it differently later

I guess that's like, something you could say in response to any inconsistency ever. Is voting Abegnation over me scum indictative though ? Just, why?

I voted Abegneation because a bunch of votes, lots of fluff, no towniness, plus questioning why people that do townread them are townreading them sus! Plus, I guess I'm leaning Rauth is a townie who posts filler ? So might as well start there

Hot take: consistency is scum indicative

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And here I was thinking of making a SzmarzLeek reference in response to that and you go and beat me to it

[usesPython]

Is... is this really Python, can someone go check and make sure their account didn't get hacked or something because this "stop talking about mech" and "idk they just vibe town" is really confusing me

How does this influence your read on us?

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Maybe it doesn't, just my confusion levels

Hmmm...

Anyways Merlyn's right that most of those posts weren't from Nameless or me (Also smh Merlyn I'm not as bad as Nameless) but I'm stanning the "stop talking about mech" since we've been going in circles on that front for the past 15 pages with nothing new and people just straight up aren't playing while that's going on

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[Rautherdir]

Yeah. No more mech for today. I've explained the reasons why I made the contributions to mech discussion that I did, and... I'll just quote those if people push me on it again.

[usesPython]

Flea and bianco need to be prodded I think

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[usesPython]

Anyways this wagon's getting stale

VOTE: kkfc

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[Save The Dragons]

sheep and merlyn both feel town

[KatyKimFanClub]

Anyways this wagon's getting stale

VOTE: kkfc

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Am I getting voted for town vibes or b/c of Titus?

[usesPython]

Am I getting voted for town vibes or b/c of Titus?

We're not voting you for giving off town vibes when you can do so as scum

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