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[Roden]

I'm gonna keep it real with you HEM, I think I was just wrong and mis-remembered your confidence levels as town

[humaneatingmonkey]

you melt my heart, but even if you are town, it's between you and karmadog now and I just think karmadog has more town equity. if you're town, i'm sorry it has come to this. if you're scum, then i respect the effort.

[Elements]

Takutai is scum after this end day

[Takutai]

Nice

[Elements]

Thought you'd like that

[Takutai]

It is spicy

[curiouskarmadog]

(this would have be posted earlier today)

Okay, done with festivities. Going to try to knock out more. Pretty sure the deadline is today..pretty sure I leading because?!?!?! I was gone? Seems like a legit reason. Moving on.
After page 15, I would be voting one of OD/Tweet/Elements/Tak
16, 376 Elements is suspicious of clidd. (votes 378)
16-Ele asks fur why I am town, fur said because of my claim post (I didn’t surrender?) clidd asks for my takes (I am gone at this point)
16, 387 Elements votes roden, no reason.
16, 389 clidd “TO BE HONEST”
16- more conversation if I am town (HEM joins)
17, 401, HEM comments that I have been here 2008, I know how to falke. Side note: I don’t flake (often). If I was scum, I would have made the exact same post, but maybe throw in a PR to try to catch one.
17, 406 HEM votes clidd, no reason.
17, 410 (interesting) CLidd has OD, Tweet and Klick as likely town, I am the only scum read, everyone else is fine or null (WOW, that list in itself is scummy)
17, 420, I hate this post from Roden, BUT it could be just a difference in logic?
17, 424 Unvotes (HEM?)
18, 429 HEM feels town here…confident town. Which somehow make is less towny, lol
18, 431 Clidd says my exit (claim post) didn’t make sense, why?
18, 432, OD posts my old game, says I have passion. Not sure why she doesn’t understand I am gone for a holiday. I got busy before I left, I posted Thursday morning, thread blew up, I posted a check in post Friday and left. But she is still harping on me not posting. SCUMMY way to justify their suspicion.
18- I like HEM’s push for Roden here. I am not sure I believe Roden is scum, but like HEM’s push of him, looks towny.

19 vote count

Elements (3): curiouskarmadog, geraintm, Greeting
Roden (2): Elements, humaneatingmonkey
clidd (1): furtiveglance
curiouskarmadog (1): clidd
OopsieDaisy (1): Klick

Not voting (5): Emperor flippyNips, Morning Tweet, OopsieDaisy, Takutai, Roden

19-lots of roden v HEM. This is TvT or TvS, NOT SvS, leaning TvT, but Roden could be S, if there is an S between the two
19, 459, HEM has a big head on his shoulders…lol, like it.
20, 476 Tak votes ger (complains people talk to much)…HATE THIS SLOT, but hating a slot, doesn’t mean they are scum.
20, 478, Tak votes Clidd
20, 483, Fur thinks Roden is town.
20, 487, greeting unvotes elements, no other content.
20, 489, OD thinks that HEMvRoden made them both look worse. HOW SO? If you are town this game, this solidifies it. We look at the same interactions differently…by a lot.
20, 492, greeting asks Elements some questions…this seems forced
20, 498, I agree with greeting (retract the above forced comment, seems to be doing something other than surface shit) Roden thinking Tweet looked town is weird.
21, Tak votes “Rodent”? IM GOING TO STOP SAYING I HATE THIS SLOT, but assume it is there until otherwise noted.
21, 508 HEM wants everybody to review his Roden case. HEM is town (period)
21, 511 OD joins the Roden wagon, but why now? Nothing has changed since her 489 post.
22-“everyone” grills Roden
22- HEM must have huge neck muscles
22, 535 (8:24pm) Roden post HEM games (543), OD (40 minutes later), said she read all 3 games and vote HEM? Uhhhh…maybe. Maybe she read 3 games in that time frame.


Well fuck….mafia site went down. got up early this morning to hit this....going back to work.

Okay, well…Ill take a break…at this point (page 22), I would be voting one of OD/Tweet or “to be honest” maybe clidd. I would have maybe joined the Roden wagon if pressure was needed.

In this read, it is blowing my mind, that I am still leading, (I see we are at page 40 now), what happened (or didn’t happen) in 18 pages, that has me leading over all the scummy shit that is happening in the game. It feels very much like people just wanted something easy. Like someone(town) is voting me thinking “man, a CKD flip is going to tell me so much” or “boy CKD is totally scum, look how he is lurking” I haven’t gotten to my wagon yet in this read, but going to say that has to be at least two (early or midpack) scum are on it.

….

Well shit, maybe my flip WOULD shed light on some people.

[curiouskarmadog]

MOD, site was down for most of the morning, can we please push back the deadline by a day...or at least half a day?

[curiouskarmadog]

working today, will try to knock out another bit at lunch.

[Takutai]

Hating me doesn't help you.

[curiouskarmadog]

Hating me doesn't help you.

not trying to make friends.

vote me if you have a problem with it.

at this point in the read, you have done little to nothing.

[curiouskarmadog]

Tak, did you read through my catch up to just see where I stood on you, or do you have thoughts on ANYTHING else I posted?

[Takutai]

I already said I'm hammering Roden and that you're adorable so.

[Takutai]

Tak, did you read through my catch up to just see where I stood on you, or do you have thoughts on ANYTHING else I posted?

Pretty much. I skim your posts, in the above message I wanted to talk about how I was serious earlier in saying I don't like to talk with wallposts. I think the HEM reads I was meh on from you, liked to see agreement with greting, going over what I remember from your other wall post I like you looking at oopsie and elements.

Other than that no, no thoughts. I'll maybe read your posts night phase or if I'm still here day two.

[curiouskarmadog]

I already said I'm hammering Roden and that you're adorable so.

I havent read that yet? was that in a gif form?

also thanks, thats one of my better qualities.

now to get back to the stupid read.

[OopsieDaisy]

18, 432, OD posts my old game, says I have passion. Not sure why she doesn’t understand I am gone for a holiday. I got busy before I left, I posted Thursday morning, thread blew up, I posted a check in post Friday and left. But she is still harping on me not posting. SCUMMY way to justify their suspicion.

I wasn't scumreading you at this point, once you came in with a claim and a white flag kinda response to your push you went from scummy to null. Not sure where you're reading a continued suspicion of you in these posts since I argued against Clidd's push against you because apparently you were faking your bravado.

[OopsieDaisy]

14, 337 OD unvote me, votes EFN.

I don’t like this vote, I mean if you thought I was scum at this point, why unvote after a VT claim? also why vote EFN? Nothing about this post is good.

This was a pressure vote. I used it in order to prompt Emperor to respond to my questions regarding his reads, and hey it worked out near instantly. Was not an announcement of a scumread.

[OopsieDaisy]

Same thinking was behind my vote on you, whilst I did find your quietness concerning pre-explanation about being busy, I also wanted to put pressure on your slot so that you would have to respond to the push.

[OopsieDaisy]

Same thinking was behind my vote on you, whilst I did find your quietness concerning pre-explanation about being busy, I also wanted to put pressure on your slot so that you would have to respond to the push.

Well, same *sorta* thinking. Obvs I did find your absence scummy until you came in with your explanation.

[Elements]

18, 432, OD posts my old game, says I have passion. Not sure why she doesn’t understand I am gone for a holiday. I got busy before I left, I posted Thursday morning, thread blew up, I posted a check in post Friday and left. But she is still harping on me not posting. SCUMMY way to justify their suspicion.

I wasn't scumreading you at this point, once you came in with a claim and a white flag kinda response to your push you went from scummy to null. Not sure where you're reading a continued suspicion of you in these posts since I argued against Clidd's push against you because apparently you were faking your bravado.

Are you saying CKD is using information from a point later in the game to form an opinion from only reading up to before that point...

[humaneatingmonkey]

i think it's possible for ckd to finish his catch up before deadline. otherwise:

curiouskarmadog: it's actually just between you and roden at this point. i would have pushed clidd with you, but anything else is betrayal of town's trust. it means another claim and another set of time to discuss those claims. so if you're not claiming scum or finishing your catch-up before deadline, vote Roden so Takutai can hammer like he said he would

[humaneatingmonkey]

unless everybody who thinks Roden is town would bumrush clidd with me?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Monkey
Tweet
Takutai
Roden
Elements
OopsieDaisy
furtive

it's actually possible

[OopsieDaisy]

18, 432, OD posts my old game, says I have passion. Not sure why she doesn’t understand I am gone for a holiday. I got busy before I left, I posted Thursday morning, thread blew up, I posted a check in post Friday and left. But she is still harping on me not posting. SCUMMY way to justify their suspicion.

I wasn't scumreading you at this point, once you came in with a claim and a white flag kinda response to your push you went from scummy to null. Not sure where you're reading a continued suspicion of you in these posts since I argued against Clidd's push against you because apparently you were faking your bravado.

Are you saying CKD is using information from a point later in the game to form an opinion from only reading up to before that point...

No?

[OopsieDaisy]

unless everybody who thinks Roden is town would bumrush clidd with me?

I'm not voting Clidd today, don't wanna force another claim and don't scumread him. (Tho I will admit my read on him is weak, I haven't felt the need to look at him in detail and none of his posts rang alarm bells to me)