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[OopsieDaisy]

Yea had a read of Clidd's ISO and agree he's in the treading water group, but also he's been interacting more/has been actively talking to others to shape his reads and that bumps him above a lot of other slots in the game right now for me.

[OopsieDaisy]

Like there's more meat on the bone when it comes to Clidd compared to a Furtive/Greeting (tho Greeting has admitted he's been busy) and the meat smells a lot better to me.

Ok weird metaphor but you get what I'm saying.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Daisy... goddamn...

[OopsieDaisy]

Daisy... goddamn...

LMAO sorry I hope I'm not teasing the humaneating side of you mr monkey

[humaneatingmonkey]

you talk about clidd like he's a piece of meat...

[OopsieDaisy]

you talk about clidd like he's a piece of meat...

At the end of the day, isn't that what we all are?

[OopsieDaisy]

Also how tf has the Roden vote not gone through yet, HEM was so scared of the consensus he got cold feet and yeeted himself away from the wagon and yet it's now been like 2 days and the wagon still isn't happening?

[OopsieDaisy]

Plus with Karma back and showing his effort I don't see the justification for voting him at all anymore bar I guess townreading Roden so hard it doesn't matter what Karma does

[humaneatingmonkey]

either scum team is distancing (town!Roden), or scum team has been resisting (scum!Roden). i don't think all scum is in the wagon in a town!Roden situation, meanwhile Takutai thinks it's you and Elements. begs the question where the last scum would be in that situation. he thinks karma wagon is all town.

[humaneatingmonkey]

i also don't think scum would bus if they can save it - like all scum plus roden. I've been offering clidd as an alternative for a while now. there would have been a massive swing in movements - I kept thinking roden - tweet - takutai on karma's wagon.

roden's flip will tell.

[OopsieDaisy]

I guess the advantage of delaying the day is that Karma gets to catch up (and props to him for flying through it like a champ), but the last thing I want is a last minute scramble to get a wagon through.

[OopsieDaisy]

And knowing Karma, he's never gonna compromise on a Roden vote he's just gonna vote for his biggest scumread and call it a day.

And I'm his biggest scumread (so far).

Dang.

[humaneatingmonkey]

are you scared?

[Roden]

I would like to hear more about your townreads, including Greeting and Roden.

I have already given some background on Daisy, although in recent pages my read is not as strong as it was at the beginning.

What sold me the most was the sincerity I noticed in some of her reactions and the way she went out of her way to explain herself, even under suspicion.

It's a kind of emotional read that I'm not always so successful at, but I'm usually give it some *value*.

Speaking of Tweet, I was a bit suspicious about her absence, even after the first few posts, but then she came back strong.

I do know she is an excellent player, but I feel that town!Tweet is much more evident than scum!Tweet, in the sense that her scumgame seems to me to be weakened and more icy, with superficial progressions and a certain lack of desire to play, something that at least I didn't see here.

About Klick, the suspicion about Daisy seemed too real to be a machination of scum!Klick.

Obviously, scum can also have legitimate reasons to suspect town but I don't think that was the case with him, especially for the vigor he put into trying to get the slot pressured.

Greeting, I enjoyed the short analysis about me. It seemed simple, organic and sincere. It's not all that great, but it was enough to make me comfortable.

Roden is almost a ghost in the game, but I confess that the

"good votes tbh"

comment right after the Karma votes was a cognitive punch that literally sustained a positive impression on its own, which gains more strength if Karma is scum (since Roden kept the vote on him for a long time before we even voted).

I liked this string of reads for being based more on emotion than logic. I tend to be swayed by emotions in general, I think town is a lot more likely to make reads based on emotion than scum, since scum tend to justify reads through logic which makes them harder to contend.

VOTE: Emperor flippyNips

Are you alive?

I would rather see something from Flippy now.

A lot has happened and we have nothing from his pov in any event.

@Flippy

Anyone alive in there?

Hi I’m tired, long weekend. Will be around tomorrow morning probably if not then the afternoon sometime. Probably won’t be around much Tuesday cos of the holiday but I should be around more after that

Ok, so when you come back give some thought samples about the game.

It doesn't have to be elaborated, just true to what you are thinking.

I've been pushing for the same thing, I don't think Nips is playing and his last few posts just feel like prod dodges, but he's clearly able to be around to play.

My meta take on this is that scum!Greeting has a tendency to formulate redundant impressions, while town!Greeting is more interested in going after the right topics and making his voice heard, although not always expressed correctly.

You can see that if you notice post viewtopic.php?p=13718896#p13718896 in that game and make a comparison with post 304 here.

This is also my experience with Greetings, so I think this take is spot on.

[OopsieDaisy]

I kept thinking roden - tweet - takutai on karma's wagon.

roden's flip will tell.

yea I thought the Karma wagon was like, the easiest default wagon for scum to go for cause it's just an inactive slot you don't rly have to do any work to manufacture a read there. tho I have liked tweet this game since she feels very different from her previous scum venture in 2302, and correct me if i'm wrong but roden's vote was just there because it was the counterwagon to his push.

issue is as much as this makes takutai look bad to me i don't think he's the vote for today, i wanna hear more from em and i want the roden/hem situation solved.

[humaneatingmonkey]

i also dont like Emperor in this game, especially after karmadog caught up sooner than him. is this similar to Emperor from the previous game?

[OopsieDaisy]

are you scared?

scared of karma deathtunneling me? kinda yea. my experience with him in 2302 was him just gunning straight for his scumreads and not letting go until they were dead, and i'm his top scumread. i also know how stressful it is being grilled by him for pages and pages and yeaaa not fun.

scared of a full wagon forming? not so much. sure it's a possibility if people have been this averse to voting roden, but i don't think karma would be able to convince 6 people in 24 hours, and even if he does my flip should give town a lot to work with at the very least.

[humaneatingmonkey]

i think i can be convinced daisy, especially if you're scum.

[OopsieDaisy]

i also dont like Emperor in this game, especially after karmadog caught up sooner than him. is this similar to Emperor from the previous game?

yep, guy was a silent assassin. didn't contribute much in the day whatsoever but went 2 for 2 on vig shots for us and through that was our mvp. as much as i agree that him not giving us much is frustrating, it is within his town meta from the one game i played with him.

[OopsieDaisy]

i think i can be convinced daisy, especially if you're scum.

ok but if you all get convinced i want a cutesy lil sorry from everyone once i flip that's my agreement lol

[humaneatingmonkey]

we can run him up day 2.

[OopsieDaisy]

i think i can be convinced daisy, especially if you're scum.

but yea right now i see:

karma
takutai
roden (doesn't wanna die)
furtive (hard townreads roden)
you (if convinced by karma)

being willing to vote me. there's still two more slots left to fill on that ride

i suppose el just wants the day to end so would prolly hammer me? hmm yea maybe i should be scared..

[OopsieDaisy]

we can run him up day 2.

as much as that would be satisfying, he was building up to voting me on the potential day 3 of 2302. he read me wrong that game and if he does decide to hard push me, it's probably just more indicative that karma struggles to read my slot than anything to do with his alignment. i'd be a lot more wary of the people following karma's pushes if they end up bad, including my own.

[OopsieDaisy]

but also i'm making assumptions, there is a world where karma suddenly warms up to me over the course of his final 300 or so posts to read so i shouldn't be waving a white flag, it's more that i'm away tomorrow and so might not be even be around to fight it.

[Elements]

Why is this day not over yet