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[humaneatingmonkey]

Your walls are kinda unreadable.

The walls are very readable and my name's on it all the time!

[humaneatingmonkey]

Sometimes I tunnel the right slot, it flips scum... then I discover later that it was a bus and the town follows me to eliminate town for 3 consecutive days before I say "stop following me!" and give the crown to someone else who seems more reasonable and I townread.

[Roden]

Cite the game Roden

If I'm lying cite the game and clear the air.

viewtopic.php?sid=&f=54&t=87645&user_select%5B%5D=35782

[Roden]

Feel free to link the scum game where I self-voted though

[humaneatingmonkey]

and where am I in this game, Roden?

[Roden]

My dude

You made the claim

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm not here. I never saw you self-vote. I wasn't lying.

[curiouskarmadog]

going to ISO greeting, real fast.

okay, the thing I thought Greetings was doing, wasnt real. I dont like the hop in flurry of posts with questions and hop out bit. The questions were followed up on. so nothing that is a nothing burger.

[Roden]

I'm not here. I never saw you self-vote. I wasn't lying.

Maybe don't throw stones in glass houses

[curiouskarmadog]

The exact reason I got cold feet. But yeah, I am usually powerful Day 1. Sometimes I tunnel the right slot and it's enough to snowball the game.

Sometimes scum hide behind my push

to get me to eliminate town and set me up for elimination on a later day.

do you think that is happening today? lets say for shits and giggles Roden is town, is anyone doing that today?

[humaneatingmonkey]

i think scum is distancing.

Maybe don't throw stones in glass houses

Roden, for me, you are a mansion.

And I was asked if I personally saw you self-vote.

Why did you self-vote here and self-vote in that game?

[curiouskarmadog]

Cite the game Roden

If I'm lying cite the game and clear the air.

viewtopic.php?sid=&f=54&t=87645&user_select%5B%5D=35782

okay, thaks for the game, HEM wasnt in that game though. what was HEM lying about?

[humaneatingmonkey]

do you think that is happening today? lets say for shits and giggles Roden is town, is anyone doing that today?

I think scum is distancing. But if scum is behind my push, I will scrub the thread for people who tried to say that my flip is contingent on Roden's flip.
Luckily, you just did. Who said that? I remember Tweet, Daisy, and maybe Takutai.

[curiouskarmadog]

also Roden, this is still an open question.

Karma could you parse these walls down a bit for the townies who aren't going to read that but still need to know where you stand

NOPE, i just fucking read this whole thing as thoroughly as I could while working a full time job. everyone complained I wasnt posting. If you really want to know where I stand on something ask. if not, there is a ton of content I just posted. If you think I am scum, I have posted a bunch for you to cut and paste a case out of. I mean you recently posted 3 fucking full games with HEM in it and expected people to read them. so get out of my face with...."you posted too much".

why ask me to condense? Why not just ask me what my stance is on X?

You misunderstand. Your walls are kinda unreadable.

OKAY....but my last post wasnt right?

What do you want to know my stances on?

[curiouskarmadog]

okay no one asked yet...but here we go, general thoughts on everyone.

Gera, its null, they havent done anything, the only thing that is different this game (I meta-ed them the last game) is that they havent complained as much about Day 1 sucking this game. the only thing to note is that for someone who doesnt like Day 1, they had a chance to end it by hammer Roden. IF Roden flips scum, Gera is suspect. if Roden flips town, Gera looks townish.

OD, it hurts me to say you are in my top 3 scum suspects. maybe it is play style, but I find myself making excuses FOR you. I dont like your interaction with Tweet. Leaning tweet/OD scum team. The only thing that is stopping my vote, is I DID suspect you last game and you were town. you are killing me with the "to be honest" posts. if you flip scum, I will never let a "to be honest" post slide again. you seem opportunistic. I want you to scum hunt, you seem like you are coasting on others.

Elements, it could be residue effects from the last game, but have been back and forth on you in the read. most of your jumps on wagons look bad, but you have had a couple where I thought "hmm, would scum do that?". going to put a pin in this for now. need to see some flips.

Greeting, ugh...null too. hops in, does a little dance party full of questions and light-thoughts...jumps out again. didnt hammer Roden (follow back up if there is a Roden flip). I need to see more from this slot.

EFN/nips, normally I would say cut this slot. BUT that was what we did last game, and he was a VIG, and basically won the game. so at a loss. he seems to be my hype man which I like. but I also like my ego stroked. given his current content in the game, I dont think he should see endgame. Do better EFN.

clidd, also part of the "to be honest" club (man I will be horrible to live with if both you AND OD are scum together). I am leaning scum/null here. Hasnt done much. Hasnt made waves. also coasting. Also have trouble understanding they "why" behind his reads.

Roden, ugh..I think a lot of info COULD come from this slip. But I think he is town...if he flips scum, I look bad, but....it is what it is. I wont be voting him today, will see if that end up killing me today. I hate the self vote. if I found a game where are scum he self voted, I would jump on this wagon, HEM homework?

Tweet, in my top scum picks. one part OMGUS one part he just seems scummy. I will have to go back and reread the WHY behind that. but just kept thinking during the read, "wow he is scummy" and mentally put him in my scum pile. I dont like his interaction with OD.

Tak, HATED THAT SLOT early game, liked MUCH more in the later game. I feel like at one point you have tweet on a "townlock" which I dont understand or like. (need to reread that). leaning town.

Fur, also top scum pick. HEM nailed it, no soul in this game. Votes a lame, stances are phoned in. I want to see him push a case. coasting. says he doesnt like a thing, then does that thing. hiding in plan sight scum.

HEM, closest thing to a town read I have. too much power though, if he IS town, scum is no doubt scared of him...or maybe not, if Roden is town, they might love him. I think I need to read a HEM scum game. at any rate, not going any where Day 1

Klick, null pile with EFN (Nips), more like Greeting, comes in...does the hokey pokey, jumps out. who knows.

I would be down with a Fur, tweet, OD (sniff) wagon in that order. if a vote was needed, clidd as well.

going to iso those three though, and push a case tomorrow. with a vote.

[humaneatingmonkey]

HEM homework?

am busy unfortunately

[curiouskarmadog]

yeah, im going to bed...

cant wait to see what develops over night.

[OopsieDaisy]

omg i would love a furtive wagon plz karma i'm begging he's my scummiest read but no one bit last time i tried to get something going on him

[humaneatingmonkey]

good night ckd and im glad you're here

I have thoughts on this day phase if roden ends up being the unanimous choice for day 1 elim. I will post it before hammer.
But feel free to explore other avenues. If people want to break out of this CKD vs Roden dichotomy, I will not stop them. I am even doing it myself.

[OopsieDaisy]

gonna UNVOTE: roden and VOTE: furtive if the possibility of a furtive wagon is available, that guy's done nothing that's read townie to me and done multiple things i've found scummy. my meta read on him has him playing straight into his scum meta and him pushing for the karma elim here is another stinker. also going to sleep cause it's half 5 in the morning here ah jeez..

[humaneatingmonkey]

daisy what are the multiple things you've found scummy

[OopsieDaisy]

daisy what are the multiple things you've found scummy

read the sentence after the one where i said there have been multiple things i've found scummy. bad meta read (his quiet and almost standoffish attitude reads terribly compared to how he plays irl) and i don't like the fact he went for karma instead of trying to rock the boat in a meaningful way. as i've stated several times before i think the karma push that ran counter to roden is scummy af.

[OopsieDaisy]

to clarify, irl i find my understanding of furtive's slots comes from how he pushes players. as scum, he's quiet about it. he makes pushes that he sees as logical and doesn't make a fuss/want to rock the boat. as town, he'll very loudly and proudly get himself behind a push and be super charismatic with it. now obvs forum mafia changes how you interact with the game, but you can see why i read furtive the way i do with the irl experience i have.

[OopsieDaisy]

wait i was supposed to be sleeping, doing my disengage thing now

[humaneatingmonkey]

UNVOTE:

let's make it interesting.