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[medeia]

Anyway, moving on with the scumlist because I really have to justify my existence in this game:

medeia: A lot of dialogue, not exceptionally analysis heavy (though to be fair, the quantity is such that even 10% analysis still outweighs most players.) Most early game is in response to being scumread. Continuing, not a lot of heavy reads or action from what I can tell. Fights with Random Nurse over pressure voting Pooky. Defends T3 from E-1. Claims to be scumhunting in 183, but I don't see it. 216 is reacting to reads on her. Overall, I have read over 70 posts from her, and I don't actually know who medeia is scumreading.
Null, pending. Townread the game, but I kind of really want a tl;dr post of scumreads.

Kcdaspot: I'm getting ... vague scumread from him? The whole discussion which emanates from 15 isn't good, it's reading too into a throwaway RVS question. 27 is just fundamentally wrong, it seems to indicate that the controlling player is scum 85% of the time.
Also the most extra player.

Random Nurse: I have no idea what a 'Town Contract' is, but making one up and directing it at a player, threatening to scumread if rejected is kinda scummy to me. Scumreads Pooky, no justification (though it might just be 'pressure', but Pooky's the most scum player according to him). Goes after medeia for not voting to pressure Pooky. Definite scumread.

PookyTheMagicalBear: In theory, I echo the sentiment of 88. In practice, I think Pooky is doing a good amount to scumhunt and drive out responses. I also like his votes.

ceejayvinoya: Lurker. Tied with meuh, actually as of the time I'm writing this. Hasn't done much but comment. Nullread.

Now? For starters, UNVOTE: T3, that vote isn't doing anything useful there. I still maintain my scumread, I just want to move it.
Next, VOTE: Random Nurse. He claims that pressuring to create reactions is a core tenet of the game, so I shall follow his logic and turn it on him. I would also like to hear his explanation as to how he hasn't been tunneling medeia.

mobile so nightmare quoting here sorry

somewhat recently compiled most of my thoughts for kcdaspot in 216

if there’s something specific or more recent you want from me just ask

kinda weird to me that you’re like ‘don’t know who she might be scumreading here’

like how’re you interpreting my thoughts on various slots then

i don’t really think of things like ‘these are the scums and these are the towns’ but rather in possibilities but yeah still don’t know how you would have reached the conclusion ‘nope don’t know what she thinks’

[medeia]

I am v firmly null on him

Although @ pooky i dislike your random nurse thing fwiw

its ok i promise to sheep medeia ^^

mm not sure why you’d think my reads would be more likely to be accurate here especially with how the not mafia day one elimination disaster went

[medeia]

Although @ pooky i dislike your random nurse thing fwiw

You have that strong of a tr on Random Nurse?

Kinda
+ i think pooky should be seeing what i'm seeing

i am not really seeing it either for what it’s worth +/

like the aggression just feels like playstyle to me and the push on me and the timing of it were kinda !?! to me and for all of the talk of the pressure voting and such it’s not really like he’s used that to sort me or tried to sort pooky in other ways as far as i can tell

but like, you probably have better perspective on and i am trying to get more distance from

[skitter30]

Idk could be wrong
Not voting there rn

[medeia]

Idk could be wrong
Not voting there rn

idk i know i have had interactions like that before with towns as well as scums so it’s tough

like i said before mostly reminds me of humaneatingmonkey just pushing me to push me under the guise of ‘this is how the game is played’

[medeia]

kinda wish people pushing me like this was more of an alignment delineating thing but alas

Exactlyyy

medeia being pushed for what I think is how they play sucks to read

I don’t know medeia, so how would I know how she plays?

we have played together before in gamma emerald mini normal i had to replace out of as inutile and ydrasse music themed mini normal as shiki and pooky’s dead silence game as thana

[medeia]

will look at rest of chicagotypewriter posts more closely later

[ChicagoTypewriter]

Fair 'nuff.

Also, can we acknowledge that T3 has been lurking despite being scumread and has given basically no response to that at all? Just wanted to put that out there. (And, yes, I've been lurking too, but I'm trying to do something about that now.)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I am v firmly null on him

Although @ pooky i dislike your random nurse thing fwiw

its ok i promise to sheep medeia ^^

mm not sure why you’d think my reads would be more likely to be accurate here especially with how the not mafia day one elimination disaster went

we still won that game so it all worked out(if we lost then like dont tell me cuz in my memory we won)

[medeia]

Fair 'nuff.

Also, can we acknowledge that T3 has been lurking despite being scumread and has given basically no response to that at all? Just wanted to put that out there. (And, yes, I've been lurking too, but I'm trying to do something about that now.)

i think we have acknowledged that and i would still like t3 to answer my question re: how t3 is differentiating between town/scum random nurse either of which would assumedly have the same view of how town should play the game

[ChicagoTypewriter]

VOTE: CT
to make that catchup extra stressful

Catchup is done, by the way.

[medeia]

I am v firmly null on him

Although @ pooky i dislike your random nurse thing fwiw

its ok i promise to sheep medeia ^^

mm not sure why you’d think my reads would be more likely to be accurate here especially with how the not mafia day one elimination disaster went

we still won that game so it all worked out(if we lost then like dont tell me cuz in my memory we won)

we won - day two on went very well but yeah day one was basically like this with you saying you would sheep me and then me leading an absolute disaster wagon off a cliff so it’s just kinda ?? to me that you’d be so eager to defer to my reads over your own here but i guess i can’t really say it feels out of character for you either

[medeia]

just like, mmm, i’ll let you know if i am feeling confident later

[ceejayvinoya]

Weirdly enough I kinda townread CT but wow their scumlist hurt my head

kinda like the kcda and pooky parts tho...

them also using pressure voting on RN is so weirdly town

[Invisibility]

VC 1.08

medeia (1): Random Nurse
Random Nurse (2): PookyTheMagicalBear, ChicagoTypewriter
ChicagoTypewriter (2): Meuh, skitter30
Meuh (1): ceejayvinoya

Not voting: T3, medeia, Kcdaspot

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate someone. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-07-17 14:12:57).

[Meuh]

hmhmhm

This is my favourite genre of posts

didn’t have much to add but was going to be aroundish for a while if anyone wanted anything

Oh I wasn't shading it or anything, I genuinely like it when people make a post that's just like "hmmm" or voicing the fact that they're thinking, I find it funny

[Meuh]

VOTE: CT
to make that catchup extra stressful

Catchup is done, by the way.

I'm fine with my vote right where it is!

[skitter30]

Y this be dead

[medeia]

Y this be dead

kinda a holding pattern waiting on various things

but i can do the thing still need to look at chicagotypewriter posts anyway

[T3]

There's like multiple telling you that tho

I expressed my scumread of medeia before anyone talked about meta or anything. When I read through the demona game I noticed some differences, in this game I noticed that medeia often used language like “I guess” moreso than in the demona game.

[medeia]

There's like multiple telling you that tho

I expressed my scumread of medeia before anyone talked about meta or anything. When I read through the demona game I noticed some differences, in this game I noticed that medeia often used language like “I guess” moreso than in the demona game.

can you answer this:

Random Nurses' push on medeia seems like it comes from town. I liked the way he was assertive about medeia being anti-town and it kind of reminded me of how town often treat lurkers. It seems like Random Nurse genuinely believes that voting people to put the pressure on is a core tenet of how town play.

how are you differentiating between

town!random nurse who genuinely believes that voting people to put the pressure on is a core tenet of how town should play

and

scum!random nurse who genuinely believes that voting people to put the pressure on is a core tenet of how town should play

?

please

and also maybe walk us through how you're currently viewing the game and such (outside of me i guess)

[medeia]

okay let's see

Anyway, moving on with the scumlist because I really have to justify my existence in this game:

it is kinda interesting to me how much you are focusing on readslists here - like asking skitter and me for one and prioritising posting one yourself - when it is like, easy to have 'believable' reads as scum and like a crafted readslist is always going to read as somewhat nai due to being formulated and such

and like, you seem to know this? because you say you like meuh's reads (even though she is townreading multiple players you are scumreading) but you are scumreading her nonetheless?

[medeia]

Kcdaspot: I'm getting ... vague scumread from him? The whole discussion which emanates from 15 isn't good, it's reading too into a throwaway RVS question. 27 is just fundamentally wrong, it seems to indicate that the controlling player is scum 85% of the time.
Also the most extra player.

Random Nurse: I have no idea what a 'Town Contract' is, but making one up and directing it at a player, threatening to scumread if rejected is kinda scummy to me. Scumreads Pooky, no justification (though it might just be 'pressure', but Pooky's the most scum player according to him). Goes after medeia for not voting to pressure Pooky. Definite scumread.

hmm, it is also interesting to me that you are scumreading both players who pressured me extensively mostly for their interactions with me while nullreading me and also criticizing my reads for being reactive to reads on me? when your reads on those slots are a) similar to mine and b) based on those same interactions

actually thought the town contract was kinda the towniest thing random nurse has posted because it is kinda uncommon for scum to reach out like that in my experience

i guess in theory random nurse could have been hoping i would decline so he could push me for that but eh, it just seems like such a basic expectation to me to 'answer questions from other players/explain thought processes when asked and such' and i think town are generally more likely to want to engage in that sort of thing than scums and it seems unlikely to me that random nurse would think it would be likely that i'd decline

if anything more likely to be an attempt to pocket me/be townread by others by fostering open interaction and such

but eh doesn't really quell my concerns with later posting and i feel like i am doing the big magnifying glass things here

[medeia]

Was that ur main takeaway from this post?

Kind of, actually. I don't like it when players vote scum without having a justifiable reasons, either posted previously or with the vote.

idk what you're failing to read but a lot of Skitter's posts makes sense to me

this feels like you just scanned her iso and looked for something to complain about.

Yeah, I think I object to half her readlist at this point.

skitter's readslist is like, notably similar to meuh's readslist which you liked though? minus the read on me

[medeia]

There's like multiple telling you that tho

I expressed my scumread of medeia before anyone talked about meta or anything. When I read through the demona game I noticed some differences, in this game I noticed that medeia often used language like “I guess” moreso than in the demona game.

wait is this even true? ctrl+f 'guess' found 63 results in inutile game iso and 59 results in demona game iso and 20 results here so far