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[Save The Dragons]

i dunno sometimes i do better when people talk to me

VOTE: HEM for now

[geraintm]

o shit there's 20 hours until the day ends

Really?
VOTE: furtive

[OopsieDaisy]

o shit there's 20 hours until the day ends

Really?
VOTE: furtive

There was until Umlaut came in and confirmed that the game deadline will be froze at 36 hours until all replacement slots have been filled, so we've got a little bit more time. Still we should defo be starting to talk about who we're limming today.

[furtiveglance]

Welcome STD

vote Clidd with me?

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: clidd

[OopsieDaisy]

yea where is clidd anyways?

maybe he is worth voting after all if my only reason against voting him is me kinda liking his day 1 + paranoia around other slots. hm, i'll have a think overnight.

[Elements]

Anyone scumming clidd want to tell me why. Not including reasons that could be applied to half the players?

[OopsieDaisy]

i dunno sometimes i do better when people talk to me

VOTE: HEM for now

Welcome STD

vote Clidd with me?

VOTE: clidd

^^another point towards my furtive/hem team paranoia

[OopsieDaisy]

Anyone scumming clidd want to tell me why. Not including reasons that could be applied to half the players?

Yea my pov on the slot right now is that it's a slot I could settle on voting here if the scummier slots in my mind don't work out as wagons, and selfishly if Clidd does flip scum it eases my concerns on Furtive/HEM for a few days since they're both pushing for a Clidd elim right now.

Also my Elements vote has been kinda useless so moving my vote back to somewhere useful.

UNVOTE: Elements
VOTE: Furtive

[curiouskarmadog]

VOTE: OopsieDaisy

[Elements]

VOTE: OopsieDaisy

0 people are joining this wagon

[OopsieDaisy]

VOTE: OopsieDaisy

0 people are joining this wagon

El, you & I both know Karma doesn't care about the viability of his wagons in terms of the wider game, he just votes who he thinks is scum and right now he's locked onto me being scum unfortunately.

[OopsieDaisy]

Anyways we need to start looking at wagons and no one else wants to lead so I'm gonna lay out my preferences for the vote:

I absolute do not want to vote myself/Tweet/Karma

I don't rly wanna vote HEM/Gera

I could vote Emperor/Clidd/StD/Greeting's replacement/Elements

And my current preference, albeit at this point clearly because of feelings/gut over logic, is on Furtive, but if I find or someone else gives a good argument on any of the above I can switch.

[Elements]

I'm with you on all except me or clidd
Me for obvious reasons
Clidd because I don't think any of the reasons so far have been good and the people I think are scum are the ones pushing it

[Save The Dragons]

UNVOTE:

i don't remember why i thought clidd was scummy let me take a closer look

i would like to know why people are so keen on HEM

[OopsieDaisy]

UNVOTE:

i don't remember why i thought clidd was scummy let me take a closer look

i would like to know why people are so keen on HEM

My stance on HEM right now is that he's a talker. He's someone who was willing to lead town yesterday and the activity he gives to the game tells us a lot about him and those around him. Do I feel good about him dipping out a bit today? Not really. But it shows he'll engage if/when he needs to.

But I feel like if he's scum there's a strong chance he's paired with Furtive because of how I've observed them interacting and the way they've both tried to push other players' votes away from the other (HEM with the limpool of the gera pushers thing, Furtive guiding your vote away from HEM just this page). Because of this, and the fact I feel like he's a really strong asset to us *if* he's town, I want to flip Furtive first.

[Save The Dragons]

I think early clidd has a lot of opinions on the gamestate, but their vote is kind of all over the place going after lurkers.

i think what initially bothered me was how clidd didn't really take a stance on HEM vs Roden. kind of makes a wishy washy post 572 and ultimately puts them both in null 645

in 809 there's a slide downward for Roden but there's not much progression. Also, no one is scummy, everyone's in a null category in both readslists. This could indicate that it's not accurate and clidd doesn't want to put too many actual scumreads. but it could also just be uncertainty.

I don't know. I think clidd is fine to pressure tbh. I think I want to hear what furtive thinks about clidd tho

VOTE: clidd for now

[Save The Dragons]

UNVOTE:

i don't remember why i thought clidd was scummy let me take a closer look

i would like to know why people are so keen on HEM

My stance on HEM right now is that he's a talker. He's someone who was willing to lead town yesterday and the activity he gives to the game tells us a lot about him and those around him. Do I feel good about him dipping out a bit today? Not really. But it shows he'll engage if/when he needs to.

But I feel like if he's scum there's a strong chance he's paired with Furtive because of how I've observed them interacting and the way they've both tried to push other players' votes away from the other (HEM with the limpool of the gera pushers thing, Furtive guiding your vote away from HEM just this page). Because of this, and the fact I feel like he's a really strong asset to us *if* he's town, I want to flip Furtive first.

i'm not sure i follow.

I'm willing to vote HEM over clidd but I don't really see the appetite for it and I think the best case I have is go remember what happened, HEM pushed roden for tring him for unbelievable reasons. It looks like HEM wanted to control the town and today he's not really reflecting on the mislim in any meaningful way (unless I missed it, which is possible). Scum don't always have to be "mea culpa, i'm so bad uwu" but sometimes they ignore stuff like that and hope town does, too.

as far as furtive goes I'm not really sure but I did ask for input from other people so anyone who came in and picked one of my low reads probably would have gotten my vote. I feel like if anything furtive hasn't meme'd enough but that's not really a good reason to suspect him lol. maybe i'll take a closer look at him in a sec.

[Save The Dragons]

when calling furtive soulless i guess i can kind of feel it, i think i am used to a more jovial, off the cuff, furtive than this but it could also just be a change in the way furtive is playing. i don't know. i could probably pressure there too.

[curiouskarmadog]

scum leans, Greeting(slot), OD.....then clidd? maybe.

I felt great about HEM yesterday...and even with the Roden flip, didnt have issue, but this complete change in play, makes me think HEMscum said in a scum thread..."guys, going to get out of a limelight a bit".

Furtive, also seems like he is phoning it in...but that doesnt mean he is scum.

feeling better about Elements, but not sure why.

[curiouskarmadog]

something about Tweet I didnt like too (but dont recall now, got to read my "scummy" catch up posts), remember I felt like there was a weird interaction between tweet and OD...

going to reread.

[curiouskarmadog]

ugh, I also dont like the Ger slot.

[Umlaut]

Sorry for lock, forgot to turn it off yesterday

[Umlaut]

camelCasedSnivy replaces Greeting.

[Umlaut]

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