Weird Dreams Mafia Redux [Finished]

[usesPython]

unless you think that one of them wont be run up for a claim today?

[Aureal]

I think you're getting waaaay out ahead of yourself there.

Chaining eliminations doesn't ever really seem to be a good idea to me. You never know what the next phase is going to bring.

[Radical Rat]

Just throwing out that while there's no guarantee there's one this game, there WAS a strongman shot available to scum last game, so let's maybe not get too ahead of ourselves with announcing targets, yeah?

[sheepsaysmeep]

At this rate isn't it looking like we'll just lim Wheme/Merlyn and IC the other if they flip green? Should we just lim the person that's less useful with a BP IC invention?

I think this is a bad usage and should be used on people in the middle of the pack, not in limpool but hard to exit poe

more detail should probably be left to the group thingy

[Cat Scratch Fever]

dang wheme is at E-2 now

and idk if this is just because I'm a chat mafia player but I was genuinely surprised at how fast the bandwagon was

Does that make you rethink his alignment?

[usesPython]

At this rate isn't it looking like we'll just lim Wheme/Merlyn and IC the other if they flip green? Should we just lim the person that's less useful with a BP IC invention?

I think this is a bad usage and should be used on people in the middle of the pack, not in limpool but hard to exit poe

more detail should probably be left to the group thingy

Oh I see what you mean, if towards the end of the game we have town and limpool it makes it a lot harder for scum to justify not limming their buddy compared to town and poe

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I noticed early on that camelCasedSnivy seems to have trouble reassessing reads. His reads are awfully consistent. On page 33, his reads were here:

townies: merlyn, rat
probably town: ranger, kyoko, drew

maybe town: tweet
null: everyone else probably for a good reason or a bad reason
maybe scum: python, abnegation, std
scum: bianco (or whoever they were being replaced by), aureal, rauth, snivy!!!

i can elaborate if someone wants but I think I made it clear

who is RR btw

and then look at the hurt votes from page 12

Spoiler:

i feel confident enough to make my own nightmare vote now

HURT: snivy, ranger, merlyn, drew, abnegation

in order from most to least towny of the 5

We need 7 if you want an IC.

(I know, mech talk, but like. Obviously the number of people we should be voting is not something we can reasonably put off)

riiight totally did not forget that

HURT: snivy, ranger, merlyn, drew, abnegation, kyoko, rat

ik rat is a miller claim but they're still towny so cope

^^ Aside from Abnegation, the townreads were almost the same. Another thing was the persistence of his Python scumread. Python was hard pushing Rauth (more on this later). Snivy also had Rauth as his main push as of 754, but he also had Python as a holdover scumread from early game.... the justification for it in 933 (something about Python's Wheme push) feels pretty meh as well.

It feels a lot like what I tend to do as scum, where my reads are easier to track because I make sure to leave a paper trail so to speak.

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Snivy's reads run contrary to the rest of the town, but his behavior doesn't align with his contrarian reads. He has Python, a near consensus townread, as a scumread basically throughout the game, but he doesn't seem to care that so many other people townread them. I don't detect any sense of urgency to lim the people he thinks could be scum. Rather, he seems to be very content to go with the flow, as evidence with his recent vote switching between Merlyn (my slot) and Wheme - the top two wagons atm.

Spoiler:

ok

VOTE: Wheme

Well, so much for not splitting the vote prematurely.

smh fine

VOTE: Merlyn

Well, so much for not splitting the vote prematurely.

smh fine

VOTE: Merlyn

We're talking Nightmare proposals not the lim

oh

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Wheme

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I'm gonna have to collect all my reads ig

Yea: {Rat, KKFC?, Random Nurse}
Kinda: {Merlyn, sheep, Kyoko, Ranger}
Maybe: {abne, drew, dragon, titus, tweet}
Prob Not: {Flea, Aureal, sheep?}
Nah: {StD, wheme, rauth}
Condemn: {snivy}

either way I'm just gonna sheep rat since ranger is probably the only person coming close to voting with me

This is more of a bonus more than anything, but this is a strange list. He has Random Nurse as top town, and in fact, Nurse is his 1st or 2nd top townread?

VOTE: camelCasedSnivy

Who's opposed to this?

[usesPython]

CSF making a case on snivy instead of just going "Yeah still catching up" and letting a wheme lim go through is +town

[usesPython]

VOTE: snivy

[usesPython]

Also for what it's worth we've been bumped up to the null tier by snivy

If you mean the nightmare vote at the start, that was for funsies

Rauth I had a scumread on before you wagoned them regardless

No I mean literally in 1437 where I'm pretty sure you meant to write our name in one of the sheep spots since sheep is there twice, we're not there at all, and everyone else is in the list

prolly forgot you and prolly forgot to erase sheep when I decided to move them up the readlist
ur a maybe

[usesPython]

if wheme is town then CSF is town

[WhemeStar]

Nah I think snivy is town

[camelCasedSnivy]

so what im getting is its weird that my reads are consistent and against the town's general beliefs

how the hell would i manage to get a lim on the people i find scummy if no one is willing to condemn them? not exactly the best scumcaser here but i doubt it would work even if i was

[camelCasedSnivy]

also python this isnt page 3 im still in your nightmare proposal i think

[camelCasedSnivy]

dang wheme is at E-2 now

and idk if this is just because I'm a chat mafia player but I was genuinely surprised at how fast the bandwagon was

Does that make you rethink his alignment?

im still thinking of if i should think anything of it in the first place or if this is something that townies do all the time

[usesPython]

also python this isnt page 3 im still in your nightmare proposal i think

HURT: Radical Rat, usesPython, Abnegation, Doctor Drew, sheepsaysmeep, Ranger, Titus

HURT: Ranger

[usesPython]

I could case snivy from here but we're gonna let CSF cook

[camelCasedSnivy]

I could case snivy from here but we're gonna let CSF cook

pretty sure CSF is done cooking

and they caused a grease fire

[Rautherdir]

I have also been a bit sus of Snivy which I've mentioned before, though it's been a vibe mostly for me.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

so what im getting is its weird that my reads are consistent and against the town's general beliefs

how the hell would i manage to get a lim on the people i find scummy if no one is willing to condemn them? not exactly the best scumcaser here but i doubt it would work even if i was

I haven't seen you try to push them is the primary issue

Why did you strongly tr random nurse?

[camelCasedSnivy]

so what im getting is its weird that my reads are consistent and against the town's general beliefs

how the hell would i manage to get a lim on the people i find scummy if no one is willing to condemn them? not exactly the best scumcaser here but i doubt it would work even if i was

I haven't seen you try to push them is the primary issue

Why did you strongly tr random nurse?

not my strongest but probably because in the few posts they had they actually seemed productive. i got that towny vibe from em

[camelCasedSnivy]

we have 3 days left so if you wanna wagon me I would appreciate if it wasn't slow

[WhemeStar]

Snivy is town please stop

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Why though

Who else do you scumread besides Ranger? I think she's town

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: camelcasesnivy