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Post Post #2325 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:54 am

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In post 2314, Aureal wrote: You think fast wagons are more likely scum driven?
Maybe Demon Slayer is still stuck in my brain, but scum(which I was a part of) started and pushed so many quick wagons that game.
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Post Post #2326 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:17 am

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In post 2322, Aureal wrote:
In post 2317, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
In post 2314, Aureal wrote: You think fast wagons are more likely scum driven?
I brought it up asking if I should think anything of it and nobody responded so I made my own judgement

So when you asked that, what you meant was "I think fast wagons are scum motivated but I'm open to other opinions if someone feels like disputing my opinion which I didn't even give"? That's... An interesting debate tactic.
Fast wagons being scum is a meta on the site I come from so not sure if its the same ordeal here
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Post Post #2327 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:49 am

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In post 2326, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
In post 2322, Aureal wrote:
In post 2317, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
In post 2314, Aureal wrote: You think fast wagons are more likely scum driven?
I brought it up asking if I should think anything of it and nobody responded so I made my own judgement

So when you asked that, what you meant was "I think fast wagons are scum motivated but I'm open to other opinions if someone feels like disputing my opinion which I didn't even give"? That's... An interesting debate tactic.
Fast wagons being scum is a meta on the site I come from so not sure if its the same ordeal here
Really depends on the game, situation, and players.

Personally, I don't tend to put much stock into wagon speed unless there's something else that makes it seem weird, like a specific block of people consistently controlling the wagons, or if it actually gets hammered.

This close to deadline though, we really can't be picky
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Post Post #2328 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:57 am

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In post 2323, WhemeStar wrote: stop tryin to question snivy theyre town

This is a really fake reaction. Why would town not want townies to talk to each other? Why would town be so confident in this read?
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Post Post #2329 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:01 am

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Ok yeah it’s a fake reaction carry on
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Post Post #2330 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:05 am

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In post 2328, Aureal wrote:
In post 2323, WhemeStar wrote: stop tryin to question snivy theyre town

This is a really fake reaction. Why would town not want townies to talk to each other? Why would town be so confident in this read?
Because I’m confident in my reads just like how you’re confident all of my posts are fake. I didn’t say not to talk to him but I feel like you’re trying to question him and see if he gives you nagtbing to make a push off of
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Post Post #2331 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:05 am

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I don’t know if your the scum on my wagon but you’ve been weird end of day
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Post Post #2332 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:20 am

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Uh huh. Define 'weird'.
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Post Post #2333 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:22 am

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I'm trying something out.

Basically, I'm looking for townreads and representing them as vertices on a graph. This might give us two things. One, it gives a visualization of townreads in this game so far. Also, it gives us cliques (sets of people who all mutually townread eachother) which might be informative. Main issue holding back this analysis is the fact that this game is 19 people and it's hard to figure out where some people stand with their townreads because I'm not good at reading. There's also probably some matrix representation of this which might allow for more representations of people's reads on each other but I'm not quite sure how to do that.

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Arrows represent townreads.

Numbering:
1- DE70
3- Ranger
4- Radical Rat
5- KKFC
6- Morning Tweet
7- Doctor Drew
8- Titus
10- StD
11- WhemeStar
12- UsesPython
13- Rauth
14- Kyoko
15- Merlyn/CSF
16- CCS
17- Abnegation
18- sheepsaysmeep
19- Aureal

All cliques of three people: Radical Rat - StD - Kyoko, Radical Rat - Abnegation - Aureal, Ranger - UsesPython - Titus, Ranger - UsesPython - Rauth, Morning Tweet - UsesPython - Abnegation, Radical Rat - UsesPython - Abnegation, DragonEater70 - UsesPython - Abnegation.

I didn't have data for Flea or Random Nurse so they're not in the graph.
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Post Post #2334 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:24 am

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Post Post #2335 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:25 am

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graphs tend to be slightly +scum

you're welcome Weird Dreams Mafia Redux for the insight
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Post Post #2336 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:25 am

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I know this analysis is really shoddy because it went down to me reading everyone's posts and trying to figure out who they townread, but I have some logic behind it some of which I can reveal right now. I doubt scumteams are going to form a clique Day 1, or if they do, they would disguise their reads and support of one another to the point that I wouldn't have the evidence to be able to form a clique.
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Post Post #2337 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:29 am

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unofficial vc that i probably messed up:

whemestar (e-2): aureal, ranger, sheepsaysmeep, radical rat, usespython, cat scratch fever, katykimfanclub, whemestar
camelcasedsnivy (3): titus, save the dragons, abnegation
ranger (2): kyoko kirigiri, whemestar
aureal (1): doctor drew, camelcasedsnivy
cat scratch fever (1): morning tweet
katykimfanclub (1): flea the magician
rautherdir (1): dragoneater70

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Post Post #2338 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:33 am

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Any chance to flash wagon flea
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Post Post #2339 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:33 am

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yeahhhhh ok.

VOTE: whemestar

that's e-1.
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Post Post #2340 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:34 am

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In post 2338, Save The Dragons wrote: Any chance to flash wagon flea
why do you want to flash wagon flea?
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Post Post #2341 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:34 am

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In post 2339, Abnegation wrote: yeahhhhh ok.

VOTE: whemestar

that's e-1.
i'm not sure i get everything in ranger's meta case but i do see the tone difference, and idk what that hammer stunt was.
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Post Post #2342 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:34 am

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Python, I apologize for anything bad I ever said about you in regards to maths and using it in Mafia.

Katy has now set the standard for 'call me when this stage of the game is over' play.

I literally cannot hate this enough, from a pure gameplay perspective and from a LAMIST perspective.
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Post Post #2343 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:35 am

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Cuz flea is probably scum and wheme is not and I'm not sure about CCS
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Post Post #2344 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:35 am

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In post 2343, Save The Dragons wrote: Cuz flea is probably scum and wheme is not and I'm not sure about CCS
why is flea probably scum?
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Post Post #2345 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:36 am

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In post 2343, Save The Dragons wrote: Cuz flea is probably scum and wheme is not and I'm not sure about CCS
Why are you voting Wheme then?
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Post Post #2346 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:36 am

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i don't get how the graph is useful. what is it supposed to help us with?
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Post Post #2347 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:37 am

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Cuz flea isn't doing anything
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Post Post #2348 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:37 am

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I am not voting wheme lol
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Post Post #2349 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:38 am

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In post 2347, Save The Dragons wrote: Cuz flea isn't doing anything
Isn't that usually more indicative of faer health than alignment?
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