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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:18 pm

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In post 314, MikhailTal wrote:
In post 307, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 48, MikhailTal wrote:
JasonWazza:
JasonWazza is directing the game's course and making statements such that, already, useful context has been elucidated.
I do not believe it likely, but in the event they do not share interests with town, their agenda is clearly that of town-siding scum, and I therefore give no consideration to voting them.
This player is very towny.

Based on which of JW's four prior posts?

I didn't get the impression he was trying to direct the game's course.

It is not in my interests to clarify further.

I am merely providing observations, and positions - you may choose to use them as assistance in building conclusions of your own. Mafia is equal parts about what is said, and what is left beneath the surface.

OK, I need you to clarify, or I'm going to jump on you like a monkey on a cupcake.

WHERE in those 4 posts did JW direct the game?
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:19 pm

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Dismissing another's perspective based on character judgements is a fucking terrible play.
Villagers must necessarily not be dogmatic in solving the gamestate to eliminate the mafia.
If you discriminate based on optics, you are in fact, not playing to town's win condition.
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:19 pm

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In post 324, osuka wrote:
In post 323, Alisae wrote: Like bro you're dead.
You think someone is going to care about what a dead person thinks?
Not even real life works this way.
people ask to sig shit all the time

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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:20 pm

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In post 323, Alisae wrote: Like bro you're dead.
You think someone is going to care about what a dead person thinks?
Not even real life works this way.
I would say my conception of what my father thinks, is what I inspire to become.
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:22 pm

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In post 326, MikhailTal wrote: Dismissing another's perspective based on character judgements is a fucking terrible play.
Villagers must necessarily not be dogmatic in solving the gamestate to eliminate the mafia.
If you discriminate based on optics, you are in fact, not playing to town's win condition.
You're not right just because your role pm is green it just means your honest and you say what you think
People think Trump is a good President but that doesn't make them right.

You want people to respect your point of view? Accomplish something. People can say whatever the fuck they want, only their actions matter
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:23 pm

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In post 325, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 314, MikhailTal wrote:
In post 307, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 48, MikhailTal wrote:
JasonWazza:
JasonWazza is directing the game's course and making statements such that, already, useful context has been elucidated.
I do not believe it likely, but in the event they do not share interests with town, their agenda is clearly that of town-siding scum, and I therefore give no consideration to voting them.
This player is very towny.

Based on which of JW's four prior posts?

I didn't get the impression he was trying to direct the game's course.

It is not in my interests to clarify further.

I am merely providing observations, and positions - you may choose to use them as assistance in building conclusions of your own. Mafia is equal parts about what is said, and what is left beneath the surface.

OK, I need you to clarify, or I'm going to jump on you like a monkey on a cupcake.

WHERE in those 4 posts did JW direct the game?
Every single one of those four posts assisted in providing answers to questions I had raised within myself. My wording was precise.
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:24 pm

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In post 309, Alisae wrote: osuka what even is ur pfp
How do you not know Starcraft 2
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:25 pm

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In post 315, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 73, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 48, MikhailTal wrote: JasonWazza is directing the game's course and making statements such that, already, useful context has been elucidated.
[Citation Needed]

I like that I'm not the only one that noticed this.
Good that
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noticed. I was starting to think i was going crazy.
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:25 pm

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In post 331, Firebringer wrote:
In post 309, Alisae wrote: osuka what even is ur pfp
How do you not know Starcraft 2
The only things I know about starcraft is that it's an RTS, it's hard, and "you must construct additional pylons"
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:26 pm

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In post 332, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 315, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 73, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 48, MikhailTal wrote: JasonWazza is directing the game's course and making statements such that, already, useful context has been elucidated.
[Citation Needed]

I like that I'm not the only one that noticed this.
Good that
somebody
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I thought this was natural for people who are located in the magical world of anime
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:26 pm

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In post 334, Alisae wrote:
In post 332, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 315, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 73, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 48, MikhailTal wrote: JasonWazza is directing the game's course and making statements such that, already, useful context has been elucidated.
[Citation Needed]

I like that I'm not the only one that noticed this.
Good that
somebody
noticed. I was starting to think i was going crazy.
I thought this was natural for people who are located in the magical world of anime
Depends on which anime.
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:26 pm

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In post 333, Alisae wrote:
In post 331, Firebringer wrote:
In post 309, Alisae wrote: osuka what even is ur pfp
How do you not know Starcraft 2
The only things I know about starcraft is that it's an RTS, it's hard, and "you must construct additional pylons"
fun fact i got started play mafia from sc2mafia mini games
also sc2 is super fun. i should get back into playing it but i bet the multiplayer is dead
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:27 pm

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In post 332, Sakura Hana wrote: Good that somebody noticed. I was starting to think i was going crazy.
You can still be crazy tho
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:27 pm

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In post 329, Alisae wrote:
In post 326, MikhailTal wrote: Dismissing another's perspective based on character judgements is a fucking terrible play.
Villagers must necessarily not be dogmatic in solving the gamestate to eliminate the mafia.
If you discriminate based on optics, you are in fact, not playing to town's win condition.
You're not right just because your role pm is green it just means your honest and you say what you think
People think Trump is a good President but that doesn't make them right.

You want people to respect your point of view? Accomplish something. People can say whatever the fuck they want, only their actions matter
I am glad you are willing to attempt to change my mind, but I am not interested in discussing whether I am right or not, only whether my perspective is valuable. I would agree with you, that people who believe Donald Trump is a good president have no claim to being right or wrong. I am not willing to discredit their opinion on that basis alone, however, as it is in my interests to clash at their position and reach some sort of understanding, where it aligns with my goals.
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:29 pm

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In post 338, MikhailTal wrote:
In post 329, Alisae wrote:
In post 326, MikhailTal wrote: Dismissing another's perspective based on character judgements is a fucking terrible play.
Villagers must necessarily not be dogmatic in solving the gamestate to eliminate the mafia.
If you discriminate based on optics, you are in fact, not playing to town's win condition.
You're not right just because your role pm is green it just means your honest and you say what you think
People think Trump is a good President but that doesn't make them right.

You want people to respect your point of view? Accomplish something. People can say whatever the fuck they want, only their actions matter
I am glad you are willing to attempt to change my mind, but I am not interested in discussing whether I am right or not, only whether my perspective is valuable. I would agree with you, that people who believe Donald Trump is a good president have no claim to being right or wrong. I am not willing to discredit their opinion on that basis alone, however, as it is in my interests to clash at their position and reach some sort of understanding, where it aligns with my goals.
Your goal, if you are town, should be to find and eliminate scum, and unless you're a day or night vig, this includes convincing the other players to help you eliminate them, you may be accomplishing the former but you certainly arent doing much to accomplish the later.
And that's if you're even town.
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:31 pm

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In post 339, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 338, MikhailTal wrote:
In post 329, Alisae wrote:
In post 326, MikhailTal wrote: Dismissing another's perspective based on character judgements is a fucking terrible play.
Villagers must necessarily not be dogmatic in solving the gamestate to eliminate the mafia.
If you discriminate based on optics, you are in fact, not playing to town's win condition.
You're not right just because your role pm is green it just means your honest and you say what you think
People think Trump is a good President but that doesn't make them right.

You want people to respect your point of view? Accomplish something. People can say whatever the fuck they want, only their actions matter
I am glad you are willing to attempt to change my mind, but I am not interested in discussing whether I am right or not, only whether my perspective is valuable. I would agree with you, that people who believe Donald Trump is a good president have no claim to being right or wrong. I am not willing to discredit their opinion on that basis alone, however, as it is in my interests to clash at their position and reach some sort of understanding, where it aligns with my goals.
Your goal, if you are town, should be to find and eliminate scum, and unless you're a day or night vig, this includes convincing the other players to help you eliminate them, you may be accomplishing the former but you certainly arent doing much to accomplish the later.
And that's if you're even town.
I have already provided a potential world, by process of elimination, that does not necessitate me searching for a single mafia. Eliminate everyone else, town wins.
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:33 pm

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In post 339, Sakura Hana wrote: Your goal, if you are
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find and eliminate scum
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:33 pm

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Mikhail is being a spectacle but I'm not sure that makes him Scum. He's probably an alt being used for experimental play.

What I'm more concerned about is his resistance in clarifying things, although again that doesn't make him Scum. His play doesn't help us one bit and if anything it makes him a very easy target for Scum to mislim him.
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:34 pm

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In post 342, Random Nurse wrote: Mikhail is being a spectacle but I'm not sure that makes him Scum. He's probably an alt being used for experimental play.
Interesting take. Would make me more likely to think Mikhail would be scum if its an experimental alt.

Doubt it though.
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:35 pm

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I mean you're probably right, but everytime i talk to them I feel like i get nowhere.
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:35 pm

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In post 342, Random Nurse wrote: Mikhail is being a spectacle but I'm not sure that makes him Scum. He's probably an alt being used for experimental play.

What I'm more concerned about is his resistance in clarifying things, although again that doesn't make him Scum. His play doesn't help us one bit and if anything it makes him a very easy target for Scum to mislim him.
JasonWazza is a power role.
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:36 pm

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In post 344, Sakura Hana wrote: I mean you're probably right, but everytime i talk to them I feel like i get nowhere.
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:37 pm

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In post 342, Random Nurse wrote: What I'm more concerned about is his resistance in clarifying things, although again that doesn't make him Scum. His play doesn't help us one bit and if anything it makes him a very easy target for Scum to mislim him.
What's worse is it makes reading them hard too.
P-Edit: OH FFS can you stop doing that.
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:38 pm

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In post 345, MikhailTal wrote: JasonWazza is a power role.
Like if this is experimental alt doing this thing, I go. Yeah scum trying to hide behind experiment to try to pretend doesn't know you don't do these things

But i currently go, nope this is actually mindset and less likely to come from green scum player than more experienced veteran scum.
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