Mini Normal 2306: Game Over

[Roden]

Is it possible that something going horribly wrong? I mean D1 is kinda hard and I don't mind being wrong on D1 but here is how I see things.


Random Nurse - I think Nurse looks like they're trying to hunt and I think they are interested in finding mafia and being right.
NorwegianboyEE - Town already gone over this.
Sakura Hana - Most likely just town
JasonWazza - Definitely comes across as just doing their own thing and trying to find mafia and just be right. Follow the vote with this one.
MikhailTal - They don't come across as mafia.
Dunnstral - I honestly think Dunn telling me that he doesn't know is who mafia is probably +town points for him?

Flavor Leaf - FL could be playing a more tame game as mafia but I really don't get that impression from them, I think their d1 has been fine so far.

Hu Tao - They feel townie when it comes to what it is they're doing in the game.
Roden - they feel townie when it comes to just what they're doing throughout the game?

Firebringer - Nothing immediately comes to mind when it comes to Fire but like they feel townie its so weird bro.

Takutai - I need to actually look at this slot through a looking glass but if I saw my vote as agreeing to decide 1 person to dayvig, they're not a terrible vote. If they flipped town I think that would be decently helpful. Like bro they're so fucking weird.

osuka - So like people townread this slot and like i don't get it and I really don't think they're more townie than any of the above players?

I kinda mirror majority of these sentiments.
When i was online last night i had a weird feeling that everytime i have a scumread it vaporizes from the person posting, or ppl are just towny enough in their posting and i wanted to make a more analitic style read to find scum, but i kept drawing a blank everytime.
So eventually i went like "screw this if my analytic side isnt helping ill go with my gut".

I've been feeling similarly, I think this game is just full of strong social players. I'm used to it usually being a handful of people, but not almost everyone.

What's your gut saying right now?

[Sakura Hana]

Wait, wait, wait wtf is simple and complex actions, i've been gone from this site too long i guess.

[osuka]

A miller w/o a cop in the setup is functionally a named townie. I don't believe they can be targeted by simple actions but they can be targeted by complex actions

mikhail hard claimed cop 🥴

[Alisae]

going back to this real fast - what makes you think i'm informed?

I think you are mafia, therefore you are informed.

do you think i'm mafia, therefore informed, or informed, therefore mafia?

I think you engaged with the thread in a way that comes across as having more information than what the uninformed minority has.

[Sakura Hana]

What's your gut saying right now?

That Takutai is mafia. Their posting has been giving me weird vibes all game and idk how else to explain it.

[Alisae]

Wait, wait, wait wtf is simple and complex actions, i've been gone from this site too long i guess.

Allow me to direct you to this thread.

[MikhailTal]

[yin] norwee looks like partners with takutai distancing kinda

Of all your weird takes, this one ranks at the top.

[yin] we think you're town and this is the final test to prove it once and for all to us! it's a good thing we promise~!!

what? are you saying fl is not miller? are you saying you know who is the miller, if not fl? what does this say?

flavor leaf is the miller and i don't know who the miller is

that's the complementary belief the italics stuff is running contrapositive to, so it's like a reaction test working off the opposite stance?

[osuka]

going back to this real fast - what makes you think i'm informed?

I think you are mafia, therefore you are informed.

do you think i'm mafia, therefore informed, or informed, therefore mafia?

I think you engaged with the thread in a way that comes across as having more information than what the uninformed minority has.

do you have any posts you can point to? better yet, do you have any ideas as to what information you think i have?

[Sakura Hana]

For those worried about hammer without claim, Takutai already claimed VT.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also i do not see why this wagon can’t be all town.

I know people love to believe that is throwing their vote behind everything, but that’s not always the case. Especially if Taka slot is scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Scum is*

[Sakura Hana]

Wait, wait, wait wtf is simple and complex actions, i've been gone from this site too long i guess.

Allow me to direct you to this thread.

Oh they are modifiers, i thought there was an action type generalization of simple or complex and i got confused.

[osuka]

i maintain that it's still WAY too early for an execution

[Alisae]

going back to this real fast - what makes you think i'm informed?

I think you are mafia, therefore you are informed.

do you think i'm mafia, therefore informed, or informed, therefore mafia?

I think you engaged with the thread in a way that comes across as having more information than what the uninformed minority has.

do you have any posts you can point to? better yet, do you have any ideas as to what information you think i have?

[Roden]

What's your gut saying right now?

That Takutai is mafia. Their posting has been giving me weird vibes all game and idk how else to explain it.

Could you point a couple of them out?

I feel neutral on Takutai, idk if the vibes you and the others are feeling are because of individual posts or if it's something I just identify as his playstyle/personality

[Sakura Hana]

i maintain that it's still WAY too early for an execution

Do you have anything else to add then?

[Sakura Hana]

Could you point a couple of them out?

I have a hard time figuring out which exact posts give me weird vibes but i'll try!

[Alisae]

people who say it is too early for an execution should mentally come up with a bucket list of things they want to do and work towards doing those things.

Otherwise complaining that day shouldn't end is complaining for the sake of complaining.

I for one don't rly care. If it happens it happens, and that's telling. If it doesn't, that's also fine with me.

[Alisae]

I think effective use of the vote is uncommon and most players don't rly know how to effectively use their vote.

[NorwegianboyEE]

We should exe Taku because if they are scum i can laugh at them acting like my vote and scumread on them amounted to nothing.

Actually if they are town i might still laugh.

[JasonWazza]

I think effective use of the vote is uncommon and most players don't rly know how to effectively use their vote.

Yeah real talk, I came back to the site recently, why is it that like half the people around at the moment don't like using their vote at all?

Is there like an actual reason for it?

[Alisae]

I think effective use of the vote is uncommon and most players don't rly know how to effectively use their vote.

Yeah real talk, I came back to the site recently, why is it that like half the people around at the moment don't like using their vote at all?

Is there like an actual reason for it?

Mafia is a really hard game and it's not easy to play well, so there aren't a lot of players that really know what they're doing.
For me, I know what I am good at, I know what I'm not good at, and I've kind of defined my playstyle and how it is I approach the game.
A lot of people when they're villagers kind of just post what's on their mind and don't rly move about the game with intention

[Sakura Hana]

@Roben: I tried... i dont know how else to explain it other than "read their ISO", sorry.

I think effective use of the vote is uncommon and most players don't rly know how to effectively use their vote.

This is why i was asking people to help me wagon.

[MikhailTal]

[yin] it's nice that it's generally giving everyone a chance to make their voice heard? like, we umm, couldn't really check the thread for over a day yin thinks n could've easily been eliminated for example, but a bit of liberal voting plus at least sometimes threatening a quick day-end should be a healthy part of anyone's town range? keeps everyone a lil more honest⩲

[Sakura Hana]

I think effective use of the vote is uncommon and most players don't rly know how to effectively use their vote.

Yeah real talk, I came back to the site recently, why is it that like half the people around at the moment don't like using their vote at all?

Is there like an actual reason for it?

Maybe people's inherent fear of being wrong? I know that's a problem on my HS, but the problem there is a lot worse than what we're seeing here and i eventually gave up on it.