Weird Dreams Mafia Redux [Finished]

[Rautherdir]

VOTE: Ircher

[Ircher]

VOTE: Ircher

Is this OMGUS, or is there an actual reason you're voting me here?

[Rautherdir]

... I'm going to look at something first, I might have an actual reason for this vote. Right now treat it as OMGUS though.

[Ircher]

Well, I'm voting you because I looked through your ISO and saw that it was about 80% mech talk. That comes across to me as scum attempting to keep town distracted and not focus on actually finding scum.

[Rautherdir]

Actually wait that'd be silly. I was wondering if Kirigiri's proposal was made after I suggested and brought up that there might be a role that can see how many scum were in the nightmare. But... you'd still want scum to be in the list in that case, cause if there aren't then... wow, suddenly a bunch of conf-towns all at once, which is honestly worse then having a list of 7 people and knowing one scum is in them.

[Rautherdir]

UNVOTE:

Right then. I should.. probably look to see if there was any traitor signalling then.

[Ircher]

HURT: usesPython, Ranger, Morning Tweet, sheepsaysmeep, Radical Rat DragonEater70, Abnegation

[camelCasedSnivy]

Severely V/LA indefinitely

Apologies. A friend's indefinitely in a dire situation. A great amount of my free time will be dedicated to helping them.

I'll still be able to keep current, with reads/votes/feedback. I'll be unable to reread, or likely even case. I know I promised to. Apologies. I literally can't. Friend > games.

damn I hope for the best for you and your friend

[camelCasedSnivy]

HURT: usesPython, Ranger, Morning Tweet, sheepsaysmeep, Radical Rat DragonEater70, Abnegation

replace dragon and abne with 2 other people (preferably me but aureal's kindness was a LITERAL scum move)

[Radical Rat]

HURT: usesPython, Ranger, Morning Tweet, sheepsaysmeep, Radical Rat DragonEater70, Abnegation

replace dragon and abne with 2 other people (preferably me but aureal's kindness was a LITERAL scum move)

Aureal was Town???

[camelCasedSnivy]

HURT: usesPython, Ranger, Morning Tweet, sheepsaysmeep, Radical Rat DragonEater70, Abnegation

replace dragon and abne with 2 other people (preferably me but aureal's kindness was a LITERAL scum move)

Aureal was Town???

kyoko not aureal omg I'm a dumbass

[Ircher]

What do you mean by that?

[camelCasedSnivy]

What do you mean by that?

because at the time I thought kyoko was giving me a chance, but since they were literally scum and that putting me in was some kind of pocket? I called it a literal scum move

[Ircher]

How is Kyoko's proposal Day 1 or Day 2 for the nightmare relevant now?

[Ircher]

In relation to your comment that is.

[camelCasedSnivy]

How is Kyoko's proposal Day 1 or Day 2 for the nightmare relevant now?

because kyoko probably wanted to get one scum in the nightmare to have influence over who the bp ic is (or to trick the informed role last game)

[Ircher]

Sorry, I don't think I was clear about what I was asking. Rat already went over that aspect

What I'm curious about is that you say "preferably me but aureal's kindness was a LITERAL scum move)" and clarify that you mean "because at the time I thought kyoko was giving me a chance, but since they were literally scum and that putting me in was some kind of pocket? I called it a literal scum move", but how is that information relevant now? Kyoko has already flipped scum. Whether it was a pocket or not doesn't really matter now because Kyoko is dead and is flipped scum, so it seems pointless to point that out here.

[camelCasedSnivy]

Sorry, I don't think I was clear about what I was asking. Rat already went over that aspect

What I'm curious about is that you say "preferably me but aureal's kindness was a LITERAL scum move)" and clarify that you mean "because at the time I thought kyoko was giving me a chance, but since they were literally scum and that putting me in was some kind of pocket? I called it a literal scum move", but how is that information relevant now? Kyoko has already flipped scum. Whether it was a pocket or not doesn't really matter now because Kyoko is dead and is flipped scum, so it seems pointless to point that out here.

because the pool of the odd ones out (me std and abne) could all be mafia and it wouldn't make sense to put me or abne in the nightmare when we are both in said pool

[KatyKimFanClub]

I maintain we are putting too much weight in the "at least one maf in Kyoko's nightmare pool" hypothesis. But I've definitely put forth more tenuous stuff than that this game so if people believe in it I'll stand back.


On the other hand, 2713 and then it's backtrack in 2716 seem off to me. Maybe it's the wording but isn't the whole point of relevance based on the fact that Kyoko is now dead and role-revealed?

[KatyKimFanClub]

its* backtrack

[Ircher]

2716 was a clarification not a backtrack. I don't see your point.

[KatyKimFanClub]

2716 was a clarification not a backtrack. I don't see your point.

Uhh, I think you're right about it being a clarification. I thought CCS was basically saying "I want to be in your nightmare, since, as Kyoko has flipped scum, it's more likely they were trying to pocket me and thus that I am town". But I'm not sure if that's what they were trying to say anymore.

And if they were saying that, then Kyoko being dead and scum would be very relevant to the point.

[camelCasedSnivy]

2716 was a clarification not a backtrack. I don't see your point.

Uhh, I think you're right about it being a clarification. I thought CCS was basically saying "I want to be in your nightmare, since, as Kyoko has flipped scum, it's more likely they were trying to pocket me and thus that I am town". But I'm not sure if that's what they were trying to say anymore.

And if they were saying that, then Kyoko being dead and scum would be very relevant to the point.

I'm just saying I had the misfortune to be in kyokos pool but if anything me being in their proposal is them pocketing me yes

[Rautherdir]

I mean, everyone else in that list could make the same argument. Except usesPython given we're pretty sure they were the night kill target that first night.


... ACTUALLY. We're still missing whoever force put Drew into the Nightmare. Is there any overlap between people who were active then and people who were in Kirigiri's list? (I ask because I am too occupied to look myself right now...)

[Rautherdir]

Unless that was a traitor ability.