Mini Normal 2306: Game Over

[Firebringer]

@mod V/A for next three days

[Sakura Hana]

I have a feeling there's a very high chance Alisae and RN are scum together.

[Sakura Hana]

Granted i could 100% see a team of Alisae/RN/FL, but im not putting too much stuck into that last one.

[Sakura Hana]

Although my level of confidence is more of RN > Alisae > FL.

[Sakura Hana]

Ok, wasnt really planning to tryhard this game, just wanted a nice relaxing game to come back and get back into the swing of things, but with how things are going this game, it seems i'm going to have to do something about it as it feels like there's a chance scum are controlling the game right now.

On the subject of Random Nurse

You probably saw me mention it a few times already, but RN left us a really nice self-meta on their first post:

Meta Data

Just a heads-up: I typically struggle on Day 1 due to not having anything tangible to work with.

I work as a strictly nocturnal night nurse, so am asleep during the day. I also work 60-72 hours each week

As Town I am free to be aggressive because I legitimately don't know who is what, and I don't care about self-preservation.

As Scum I struggle to emulate the above play and frequently try to force myself to forget my role.

As Town I work best by consistent extreme engagement to generate content: it's extremely easy to do as Town and a chore for me to do as Scum because I already have insider knowledge and I'm a terrible liar. As Town it's extremely easy for me to make free-flowing-thought posts on a dime.

I don't quickhammers and appreciate intent to hammer being made first. At this point on I don't quickhammer and instead will announce intent to claim.

I prefer NOT to play using readslists due to my severe time constraints. It's easier for me to tell you how I feel about a player, and as Town if you ask me I should be able to tell you fairly soon how I honestly feel about them. If it takes awhile then I'm possibly Scum.

On Day 1 expect me to be playing based solely on gut reads and gut vibes: I have no tangible evidence to work with.

I'm making it a habit to post this post first at the start of each game, and then start reading.

My main issue with random nurse is that they dont feel aggresive as they mention, while they mention that as scum they struggle to emulate it. I've been giving them a lot of room considering we're reaching the end of deadline, just in case they are legit busy. After their first string of posts then they go into do almost nothing mode as i mentioned before:

VOTE: Random Nurse

Yeah, forgot about them, and then dont like ISO either, and remember them pinging me with the town read on Sakura and Alisae, yet 'FL is a mystery'

seems like a positioning tactic

I support this vote but not for these reasons, but they seemed to be active at first until they got stonewalled by Takutai and then they dissapeared off the thread in terms of sorting.

Spoiler: quotes

Am I crazy or does anyone else here notice that Takutai outright ignores my question?

miki's towns are calling each other town, yaaay~

alisae n sakura hana kinda look like mafia partners in some worlds too yin thinks? probably past history but interactions feel just a lil off

we wanna be buds flavor leaf!

random nurse looks town too at this point? umm, is this game just really easy or something? weird, i have autowin

Is this the same Mikhail?

Is this the same Mikhail?

They are a plural system. I believe Yin is posting right now

Like a Hydra?

I thought those weren't allowed in Normal games?

Votecount 1.7

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to hammer

votes

Takutai (6)

E-1

:

NorwegianboyEE, Saukura Hana, JasonWazza, Firebringer, Alisae, MikhailTal

osuka (2):

Roden, Random Nurse

Not Voting (2):

Dunnstral, Takutai

MikhailTal (1):

osuka

Flavor Leaf(1):

Flavor Leaf

Firebringer (1):

Hu Tao

Day One ends in (expired on 2023-07-28 05:00:00)

Is it possible you could keep those who are not voting separate and at the bottom, please?

Also, despite Takutai being unwilling to explain himself when I asked him a simple question on why he found those two other players Scummy, I don't really see any reason why he's already at L-1. It seems way too easy to me.

UNVOTE: osuka

Rereading Takutai's ISO.

Is everything RN's done in the last 2 IRL days.
VOTE: Real Nurse

After which, they went V/LA and i went "Okay, maybe they are legit busy, i'll see what happens when they come back", so i kept waiting for their V/LA to end, which was supposed to be Sunday morning, on when the posted this:

I'll be poking my head in tonight.

This happened at sunday morning in my timezone so i was under the assumption this was them ending their V/LA and saying they'd post during the night. After which i waited for a post during the night, and... nothing since then.

Could potentially give them more time, but the clock is ticking, and i'm not sure if they stalling until night 1 at this point or just legit busy.

On the subject of Alisae

I keep flip flopping here a lot, but what set me off mostly was when I was trying to reaction test RN, at... sunday night where i assumed is when they would be reading/catching up, and this happens:

Well since FL didnt reply i'll just do it then. Sorry it took a bit.

Dayvig: Random Nurse

when you're so desperate you're faking dayvigs

Like why, why interrupt me from trying to get anything?, They seem to townread Nurse, but despite me commenting on my read being partly based on their first post's self-meta at least moer than once, doesnt seem to be engaging me on it either, feels like they are trying to bury it out or something.

Mostly going by these weird connection i'm seeing between Alisae and RN, but i do admit, i'm not that sure on Alisae being scum, their pivot onto Norwee that came out of the blue and flipped their read is nothing short of suspicious and i dunno if it's something Alisae would do as scum.

On the subject on Flavor Leaf.

Being honest here, literally the only reason i have for this is how he suddenly agrees with Alisae on Norwee, maybe this is some Level 100 play i'm not seeing coz i'm a noob at this game, but it gives me weird feelings about it all the same.

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I'm not expecting people to follow my intuition or logic here, since i'm bad at explaining things anyway and i'm not into faking confidence to get my scumreads pushed, but i figured it's better if i let my thoughts out than keep them to myself.

VOTE: Random Nurse

[Alisae]

Ok but why does that make me mafia.

Your logic is that scum are all the same three stooges that can’t figure out anything and all town apparently figure oit whatever it is that’s happening? Are you claiming all millers are mason or something? That is even less believable.

ur not mafia because of this.
U just so happen to be mafia thus ur clueless as to what is happening

[Alisae]

You can try to force through the lim but i’m not gonna accept it anymore.
You either explain exactly wtf is going on or you can die today.

oooooo sp00ky

[Alisae]

Sakura ur nurse reads isn’t based on anything and nurse is town. Nothing u posted there is any actual reasoning that they’re a wolf and their play is malicious
Sorry, the townie u want to kill is in another castle try again.

[Sakura Hana]

I'm not expecting people to follow my intuition or logic here, since i'm bad at explaining things anyway and i'm not into faking confidence to get my scumreads pushed, but i figured it's better if i let my thoughts out than keep them to myself.

[Alisae]

None of your thoughts explain why they’re a wolf
You just don’t like them so ur voting them

[Alisae]

Voting nurse effectively does nothing
How about u vote me instead that’s way more effective

[Sakura Hana]

None of your thoughts explain why they’re a wolf
You just don’t like them so ur voting them

Except i did.
Well doesn't matter whether people follow my thought process or not anyway

[Alisae]

None of your thoughts explain why they’re a wolf
You just don’t like them so ur voting them

Except i did.
Well doesn't matter whether people follow my thought process or not anyway

No Sakura, nothing you explained is about why they are aligned with the mafia

[Sakura Hana]

I know i'm never gonna be able to convince people, so i care more about whether i'm right or not in post-game.

[Alisae]

How and me and fl even controlling the game?
If anything, I would say you feel obligated to try hard because u feel obligated to control the game. I would say putting out a big post like that is a panic reaction

[Sakura Hana]

How and me and fl even controlling the game?
If anything, I would say you feel obligated to try hard because u feel obligated to control the game. I would say putting out a big post like that is a panic reaction

ok sure?

[Alisae]

I know i'm never gonna be able to convince people, so i care more about whether i'm right or not in post-game.

So u wanna be unproductive but when I was being unproductive u wanted to come after me.
U also said u wanted to vote mikhail and nurse and not unvote awhile back but u seemed very ok with wagoning Dunn

[Sakura Hana]

I know i'm never gonna be able to convince people, so i care more about whether i'm right or not in post-game.

So u wanna be unproductive but when I was being unproductive u wanted to come after me.
U also said u wanted to vote mikhail and nurse and not unvote awhile back but u seemed very ok with wagoning Dunn

I never said i wanted to be unproductive.
I just left my thoughts coz that's what I should do.

[Alisae]

Voting nurse the afk slot: does nothing

[Sakura Hana]

If you're gonna insinuate im scum with Norwee then idc tbh.
I already did more than i usually do, and had planned to do this game anyway.
Feel free to do whatever you want, but clearly you're not engaging me in good faith about my thoughts so i'm not gonna either.

[Sakura Hana]

Voting nurse the afk slot: does nothing

And on that note, i thought you wanted me to be useless anyway since you literally interfered with me trying to sort nurse yesterday.
So you clearly prefer me to be doing something useless than something useful.
SO... if you're town, have fun trying to eliminate scum without my vote, or you could vote me instead idc tbh.

[Hu Tao]

Sakura who are your top 2 scumreads

How about you answer this question?

Roden and I'm trying to figure out if FL meta thing was him trying to find a reason to scumread me or was actually misspoken. I am a little weary of firebringer too but could just be his way of speaking. You?

You can read my posts and see I don’t scum read you.

If I wanted to push you as scum, I would have done it.

Alisae gave me the giant opening.

It’s weird you’re hung up on that.

I wouldn't say I'm hung up on it, just being cautious

[Hu Tao]

Voting nurse the afk slot: does nothing

If they actually scumread them, why would it matter?

[Sakura Hana]

I guess i'll also note that if my argument is as weak as Alisae says, why did e felt the need to discredit it so quickly, specially when i dont even believe in it strong enough myself. It's kinda interesting. Also saying "nothing you say there makes them mafia" without pointing out things in the argument felt weird too, but it's probably just Alisae being Alisae.

Sakura's rambles

[Takutai]

I would say putting out a big post like that is a panic reaction