Mini Normal 2304: Conway's Game Of Life [GAME OVER!]

[sheepsaysmeep]

so I lean hu tao like surprisingly ridiculously strongly in terms of posting

but then it's like,

a) either he's with invisibility and they put on good theater starting.. last day phase lol
b) he never ever mentioned his partners. which is possible but it's just poor play I think and I feel like hu tao is decent and experienced. I guess if this ends up being the case it has to be explained by his general lack of activity/engagement or something

but the second dilemma is. I think he most likely came into today prepped already to push me/std. like, if he is wolf, why????? I feel like we were the two towniest players coming into today..
I think this makes invis/hu tao more likely than peregrine/hutao. the situations I see are:
a) the whole game has been treating peregrine as lock clear. so hu tao comes into today with peregrine assumed lock clear, invis as his partner whom he is against pushing, so it leaves him with std/sheep?
b) maybe I misread what happened and he came into today prepped to push anyone, teamed with peregrine. then when invis claimed bodyguard, he pushed the two non-bg claims because his personal perception of the setup as mafia (possibly fueled by tmi, I could see that) is that there the claim cleared invis so he feels forced to push other two
butttt I think the first case is more likely rip

so I dunno, like, im not aaaaas confident that hu tao wolf is the solution as I was the last time invisibility watched me solve a game like this lol

but like I dont know if I can ever reach more confident in this game's minimal content no matter how hard I think about it lol

[Hu Tao]

Where is pere

[sheepsaysmeep]

I disagree about the setting up lims thing. idk, it's probably not scummy of you, but I think "at least one mafia in these people" or "these ppl could be partners" is like insanely ridiculously common in early pages. for a lot of people it's just how they express reads, + if anything it's towny to me just for having complex thoughts lol. like you said, it's like page 5 and everything is based off of so little, no one actually thinks theyre setting up multiple lims in practicality

Saying that 3 pages in seems very forced. When I had literally had no more than 15 words maybe

But we can agree to disagree on it

I think it's exactly NM and then one of tao/invis but theyre not w/w

I feel very confident in this gameview but idk it could be bad just because this game feels very unique to anything ive played before

Norwee is town, one example of why is that I still believe the nurse/owl stuff was def w->v

STD is town, I guess could technically be the blindspot he's just seemed the most based to me and has the "not at all trying to appear town" feel recently that ive correctly used to townread him before

peregrine is just too pure to be mafia and the bodyguard claim was probably town

the other slots felt more scum to me

If that's your logic why vote me?

idk I guess I should be voting NM but isnt this more interesting

Suspicious, you might be scum

this is basically almost all of hu tao's treatment of me before today, besides responding to some stuff with questions

Invisibility jumping on Bob right away after Norwegian is suspect too. What happened to your previous reads?

I don't feel like Bob's response to my FOS is scummy, this is tragic.
I need to view this game from an different angle.

Start it by voting this instead

VOTE: invisibility

Well invisibility that was a quick 180

this is almost all of hu tao posting about invisibility before today besides questioning (no follow-ups on questioning to quote)

I actually townread std's responses to u lmfao

That makes one of us. In my point of view he could be trying to pocket me. But unsure

UNVOTE:

I actually think std is scum now. But I know we probably won't have enough votes for it

Hu Tao who do you actually think is scum

Right now I think it's between you sheep and NM

this is what hu tao treatment of std looks like throughout the game - note that this read is more well explained than it appears here, I missed lots of explanation posts because it was hard to command+f for them


in short, I am thinking this very similar treatment of the 3 slots is v/v/v for me/invis/std and hu tao is a power wolf with peregrine. just pushes loads of villagers at the same time, like the whole pushable playerlist, and then leaves his wolf partners alone, like the literal most extreme power wolf

I think if you do this search-through for progressions on some flipped villagers it looks similar too. there is basically never a semblance of something positive expressed - which is like, just really unnatural to me. it is just progressive shading

I dont get the feeling he is genuinely trying to sort these different players alignments (especially something I felt toward me from my pov)

[sheepsaysmeep]

this is the type of posting Im supposed to do right before placing a vote like "I swear I thought this through, sorry if wrong pls dont blame me"

except I dont know whether I'd actually put a vote already

but like

why not

im impatient and nothing much else will happen lmao

[sheepsaysmeep]

let me read std one more time

I need invis to be more here man

[sheepsaysmeep]

I feel like im supposed to hide who my preference is before invis/peregrine say stuff in order to make them more sortable lol

so like it forces invis/peregrine wolf to choose btetween voting their partner versus voting the villa

whereas if hu tao is their partner and im already gonna vote him then they know they should bus

[sheepsaysmeep]

sorry if I goofed the game that way

[sheepsaysmeep]

I think if you do this search-through for progressions on some flipped villagers it looks similar too. there is basically never a semblance of something positive expressed - which is like, just really unnatural to me. it is just progressive shading

and just the more I think about it / look through

it's reinforced that the only times something positive is expressed is very strategic. literally each time he townread someone it was a person under immense pressure, and hu tao didnt actually really defend them hard or try to convince people, he was just like yea btw I personally see them as towny rn

I think it can be explained literally Perfectly as a wolf style: push all the villagers, but then when someone seems like theres a decent chance they die, pull back and defend. that way, it Doesnt look like you've been pushing villagers all game. you can be like, hey wait, but I defended these people

[sheepsaysmeep]

I feel like im supposed to hide who my preference is before invis/peregrine say stuff in order to make them more sortable lol

so like it forces invis/peregrine wolf to choose btetween voting their partner versus voting the villa

whereas if hu tao is their partner and im already gonna vote him then they know they should bus

oh my god I remember how to play lylo now.. this is right

youre supposed to have a vote order of scummiest to towniest, like a claim order

oops

[Save The Dragons]

why use a traffic analyst in this setup over a cop if there were no other PTs to find

i think it's a weird claim regardless of the supposed guilty on me

[Invisibility]

im not a vt

and I think it means there must be mafia in hu tao / ???peregrine?????

because that would be like, a ridiculous number of town non-vanillas

And this is the clearest slip of all time. Invis do you understand why this is a slip? From sheep's point of view there is 2 mafia in 4 people confirmed. So if he names 3 people there is confirmed 1 mafia in them. There is no reason to say "I think" in that situation

he didn't name three people though

[sheepsaysmeep]

why use a traffic analyst in this setup over a cop if there were no other PTs to find

i think it's a weird claim regardless of the supposed guilty on me

this is an interesting good point lol

[sheepsaysmeep]

invisibility what are u thinking

[sheepsaysmeep]

can u talk about it in much depth

[Invisibility]

hi I'm still kinda lost but I'm leaning more towards Hu Tao scum I think. The Bob defense thing felt pretty unnatural like it could be setting up for this. Also reading Hu's iso I'm having trouble actually seeing like, solving

[Hu Tao]

im not a vt

and I think it means there must be mafia in hu tao / ???peregrine?????

because that would be like, a ridiculous number of town non-vanillas

And this is the clearest slip of all time. Invis do you understand why this is a slip? From sheep's point of view there is 2 mafia in 4 people confirmed. So if he names 3 people there is confirmed 1 mafia in them. There is no reason to say "I think" in that situation

he didn't name three people though

The ??? Is the 3rd person but that's besides the point. For your point of view there is a confirmed scum between me and std. Do you seriously not see me steering the votes away from Bob day 2?

[Invisibility]

Well to be fair. A few of you wanted Bob beginning of yesterday and I derailed that fast. And hem was towntelling at the end and I tried to derail that. Not sure what else to say

like this feels so awkward when Hu was derailing a mall train* and guiding us on to more or less nothing

Spoiler: * these things

Peregrine is probably scum cuz I assume the other bodyguard claim is scums

[Invisibility]

Hu what happened to your suspicion of me

[Hu Tao]

Also look at my reaction to hme claiming bodyguard finder, I was initially suspect of it but then realized it was to help find town and my role was to help find scum.

[Hu Tao]

Hu what happened to your suspicion of me

I suspected sheep and StD more. I'll quote

[Invisibility]

why use a traffic analyst in this setup over a cop if there were no other PTs to find

i think it's a weird claim regardless of the supposed guilty on me

I feel like the NRG or whoever want there to some games where the traffic analyst only gets positive results on scum so that it's never a sure thing that masons or a neighborhood exist or whatever. Still more likely to not be the case but like not totally unlikely

[Hu Tao]

Hu Tao who do you actually think is scum

Right now I think it's between you sheep and NM

This is from yesterday. Proving I would check in one of those 2 since N_M was eliminated.

does anyone know if today is the day we're supposed to massclaim?? I feel like it roughly is??

I suck at mech so don't ask me.
I could claim today if people think it's a good idea i guess.

No. I think wait till tomorrow

Here saying to wait for tomorrow to claim because I knew I could possibly get an innocent or guilty.

[sheepsaysmeep]

Peregrine is probably scum cuz I assume the other bodyguard claim is scums

this is interesting to me, can u explain it a bit more

like I guess from my pov theres gotta be scum between the two bodyguards. but earlier in the game I was thinking a mafia bodyguard makes no sense. and I do believe that peregrine is a bodyguard

[Save The Dragons]

why use a traffic analyst in this setup over a cop if there were no other PTs to find

i think it's a weird claim regardless of the supposed guilty on me

I feel like the NRG or whoever want there to some games where the traffic analyst only gets positive results on scum so that it's never a sure thing that masons or a neighborhood exist or whatever. Still more likely to not be the case but like not totally unlikely

it's fake though but i see your point

[sheepsaysmeep]

std who is hu tao's partner