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[skitter30]

so in trying to behave in a way that comes from town
he makes up a fake-claim that makes sense
and then ruins it by saying he'd have claimed vt if scum?

that doesn't make sense to me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

he wouldnt claim vt as scum

because then theres no explanation for why the check failed

and since nobody thinks medea is mafia he would get eliminated

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

jailkeeper is literally the only role he can possibly claim to explain the check failing

he cant claim ascetic because he didnt say it on d1
he cant claim he roleblocked medea because lol
he cant claim anything except jailkeeper or alien on medea

and im p susp that a jailkeeper even goes for "protecting" on n1 arent u supposed to go for blocking the kill?

why would medea even be a nightkill piriority with a claimed tpr like chicago in play?

[Random Nurse]

ok so the townread is a bittt weaker after iso'ing him lol

but I think, being so aggressively confident in his worldview that he reaches out to others and tries to get them to join him is a good sign of town!nurse. and being so aggressively confident that it's like, "im right and doing good town leading and youre in the wrong"

along with just, gut. gut really likes some of his posts and at the same time gut thinks chicago has been much wolfier since claiming so I just lean that way in my opinion that theres exactly one wolf between the 2

I wouldn't mind seeing Pooky getting a little love AKA pressure for now.

VOTE: Pooky

Where are you on that, Medeia?

So just to clarify you're not open currently to pressuring Pooky right now with a vote?

oh i generally vote when i wish for the person i am voting for to be eliminated or at the very least to claim just seen/caused too too many disasters

So is that like a yes or a no?

that is a no

i do not wish for pooky to claim or be eliminated right now so i will not be voting for pooky at this time

But it's just pressuring, right?

Who said anything about claiming or being eliminated right now?

Pooky where are you on this?

Skitter, you're here.

What do you make of this interaction between me and Medeia these last couple pages?

Both interacting AND pressure voting leads to readable content. It's not an either/or thing.

If you want there to be readable content then you should not have any sort of hesistance on casting a pressure vote.

and only one of those things potentially leads to disaster, shrug, like i simply do not get why you think this is mafia indicative of me in anyway

Technically both can lead to disaster, in that if the interacting goes sideways a player could replace-out, so your point is moot.

Pressure voting RARELY leads to disaster on Day 1, especially when it's just TWO.

You're making it look like you're refusing to pressure vote Pooky and I want to know WHY.

Medeia can get incorrectly scumread based on NAI playstyle stuff a lot (a lot of the case against them is just that) like in Angels and Demons which was mentioned
Still feeling dread about their vibes though

pedit: UNVOTE:

Well, her play sucks.

Actively refusing to, I don't know, SCUMHUNT.

I'm not seeing much progression.

VOTE: T3

Game's running out of time. Game's dragging. T3, wanna claim?

*Waves away impending paranoid insanity*

If this f*cker IS Town it's going to be a slog trying to work with this guy.

Is that L-1?

I'm OK with hammering for time, but I want Meuh a chance to speak/claim first.

I am announcing

intent to hammer

to keep this game on track. Need you to start talking Meuh.

Why do you refuse to vote Chicago, Sheep?

these patterns of posting all remind me of how I think of town nurse

When I ask questions like "where are you on this" or "where's your head on this right now," I'm trying to gauge if players are A) paying attention to the game and B) not just acting as if they're here but not really invested.

Since I started this alt I'm haven't been nearly as aggressive as my main is, which can generate pages and pages of content once I'm ripping and tearing. Basically I work 60-72 hours a week and am in school for my Masters FT. It is a challenge trying to find the time and headspace to even get my head into the game.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

UNVOTE:

[skitter30]

I thought jk protected with >1 scum alive
And blocked with just 1

[sheepsaysmeep]

never heard of that in my life

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

no jailkeeper is just a roleblock + protection on the target

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh nvm i see what u mean

[sheepsaysmeep]

ohh I see

[skitter30]

I meant i thought that was consensus optimal play

Like what should jk!random nurse do instead

[Invisibility]

Seeking replacement for ceejayvinoya.

[ChicagoTypewriter]

Okay, so I think I haven't been keeping up - I know there's a thought that the town JK should have JK'd me last night which would be pretty good play; but there are equally valid play options, right?

[medeia]

Okay, so I think I haven't been keeping up - I know there's a thought that the town JK should have JK'd me last night which would be pretty good play; but there are equally valid play options, right?

pooky and skitter are talking about theoretical optimal jailkeeper play (when to try to protect someone vs when to try to jail mafia making the kill and such) because pooky said he thought it was suspicious that random nurse would try to protect me there

which eh i think i was a fairly likely nightkill target there

[medeia]

and the scum would only be able to shoot in one of the VT claims and that narrows the field for us.

if the scum shoot RN and he's town obviously that also helps us more than if we were to eliminate him here

like i said i don't hate this

feel like the most likely outcome would be you being nightkilled

which if that is why you don't hate this fair enough

[Random Nurse]

I personally feel a Chicago lim today would help sort out the mystery of these various claims, but if not today, then when? Day 3? Do I need to get NK'd before Town lims CT?

[medeia]

I personally feel a Chicago lim today would help sort out the mystery of these various claims, but if not today, then when? Day 3? Do I need to get NK'd before Town lims CT?

like vs eliminating outside of the pr claims or vs no elimination?

like if we sleep and you are nightkilled then that obviously helps with knowing the worlds but i don't know how likely that is even if you are town

if we eliminate in the vt claims and we don't hit then it's probably melo tomorrow and are maybe forced into choosing most likely world without a safety net

if we eliminate in the vt claims and do hit it's such a good position tho

if chicagotypewriter is a scums obviously beneficial to eliminate today

if chicagotypewriter is not a scums and we eliminate him it narrows potential worlds and i am pretty wary of you being like 'sort out the mystery of these various claims' as if chicagotypewriter being town would still mean you'd push me as mafia here

[Random Nurse]

I personally feel a Chicago lim today would help sort out the mystery of these various claims, but if not today, then when? Day 3? Do I need to get NK'd before Town lims CT?

like vs eliminating outside of the pr claims or vs no elimination?

like if we sleep and you are nightkilled then that obviously helps with knowing the worlds but i don't know how likely that is even if you are town

if we eliminate in the vt claims and we don't hit then it's probably melo tomorrow and are maybe forced into choosing most likely world without a safety net

if we eliminate in the vt claims and do hit it's such a good position tho

if chicagotypewriter is a scums obviously beneficial to eliminate today

if chicagotypewriter is not a scums and we eliminate him it narrows potential worlds and i am pretty wary of you being like 'sort out the mystery of these various claims' as if chicagotypewriter being town would still mean you'd push me as mafia here

To be honest you sound worried that I would push you as Mafia when I wasn't currently thinking it when you mentioned this.

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[medeia]

To be honest you sound worried that I would push you as Mafia when I wasn't currently thinking it when you mentioned this.

it felt like that's what you were saying to me here with the 'various claims' thing and you said it earlier as well like

'let's eliminate chicagotypewriter! but if it's not chicagotypewriter then maybe it's medeia...'

like you've just been ignoring why that doesn't make sense

[Random Nurse]

To be honest you sound worried that I would push you as Mafia when I wasn't currently thinking it when you mentioned this.

it felt like that's what you were saying to me here with the 'various claims' thing and you said it earlier as well like

'let's eliminate chicagotypewriter! but if it's not chicagotypewriter then maybe it's medeia...'

like you've just been ignoring why that doesn't make sense

Why do you think it doesn't make sense?

I jailed you last night. There was no night kill. It's of course a possibility that it was you who attempted it.

Again, I don't know if that's what happened, but please don't presume that scenario is impossible.

[medeia]

To be honest you sound worried that I would push you as Mafia when I wasn't currently thinking it when you mentioned this.

it felt like that's what you were saying to me here with the 'various claims' thing and you said it earlier as well like

'let's eliminate chicagotypewriter! but if it's not chicagotypewriter then maybe it's medeia...'

like you've just been ignoring why that doesn't make sense

Why do you think it doesn't make sense?

I jailed you last night. There was no night kill. It's of course a possibility that it was you who attempted it.

Again, I don't know if that's what happened, but please don't presume that scenario is impossible.

i mean, it doesn't make sense across the board based on play but specifically this:

IF CT flips Town, then I'd say look at Medeia since I did jail her and there was no NK—maybe she performed the NK action (look into this late game).

i just recently discussed this with sheepsaysmeep but

if i were the one performing the nightkill and my nightkill was blocked by your jailkeeper action

how would i have known i was jailkept in order to claim checker with an unsuccessful result?

and why would i have done so when i was widely townread instead of just like 'oh maybe i was saved'? (which i still think is possible for what it's worth like if you're town it seems somewhat likely to me that i was saved like i am quite often nightkilled and i don't think scums generally view me as someone to miseliminate in the future) especially given that chicagotypewriter had already provided another possible explanation for the missing nightkill with his claim

which i've been over multiple times already

like sure let's assume you are town and you jailed me

if i had attempted the nightkill and i was blocked by your jailing me,

how exactly would i have known this in order to fakeclaim? like do you really think i would just guess and hope for the best? when i would obviously have had other better options there?

[ChicagoTypewriter]

I personally feel a Chicago lim today would help sort out the mystery of these various claims, but if not today, then when? Day 3? Do I need to get NK'd before Town lims CT?

How about you respond to 892 and explain how you aren't the scummiest roleclaim right now before we lim CT?

[medeia]

also

but please don't presume that scenario is impossible.

also i know that scenario is impossible

but still i should not get frustrated it just feels like you've been ignoring that altogether and i don't know if intentionally

[Random Nurse]

To be honest you sound worried that I would push you as Mafia when I wasn't currently thinking it when you mentioned this.

it felt like that's what you were saying to me here with the 'various claims' thing and you said it earlier as well like

'let's eliminate chicagotypewriter! but if it's not chicagotypewriter then maybe it's medeia...'

like you've just been ignoring why that doesn't make sense

Why do you think it doesn't make sense?

I jailed you last night. There was no night kill. It's of course a possibility that it was you who attempted it.

Again, I don't know if that's what happened, but please don't presume that scenario is impossible.

i mean, it doesn't make sense across the board based on play but specifically this:

IF CT flips Town, then I'd say look at Medeia since I did jail her and there was no NK—maybe she performed the NK action (look into this late game).

i just recently discussed this with sheepsaysmeep but

if i were the one performing the nightkill and my nightkill was blocked by your jailkeeper action

how would i have known i was jailkept in order to claim checker with an unsuccessful result?

and why would i have done so when i was widely townread instead of just like 'oh maybe i was saved'? (which i still think is possible for what it's worth like if you're town it seems somewhat likely to me that i was saved like i am quite often nightkilled and i don't think scums generally view me as someone to miseliminate in the future) especially given that chicagotypewriter had already provided another possible explanation for the missing nightkill with his claim

which i've been over multiple times already

like sure let's assume you are town and you jailed me

if i had attempted the nightkill and i was blocked by your jailing me,

how exactly would i have known this in order to fakeclaim? like do you really think i would just guess and hope for the best? when i would obviously have had other better options there?

also

but please don't presume that scenario is impossible.

also i know that scenario is impossible

but still i should not get frustrated it just feels like you've been ignoring that altogether and i don't know if intentionally

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Did you claim Checker before or after I claimed Jailkeeper?

[medeia]

Did you claim Checker before or after I claimed Jailkeeper?

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