Weird Dreams Mafia Redux [Finished]

[Korina]

VC 3.4

Ircher (6, E-1!):

Ranger, DragonEater70, sheepsaysmeep, Rautherdir, KatyKimFanClub, camelCasedSnivy

Save the Dragons (1):

sheepsaysmeep

Rauthedir (1):

Ircher

camelCasedSnivy (0):

Abnegation (0):

Flea the Magician (0):

DragonEater70 (0):

Ranger (0):

Radical Rat (0):

KatyKimFanClub (0):

Morning Tweet (0):

usesPython (0):

sheepsaysmeep (0):

Not Voting (6):

Radical Rat, Flea The Magician, Abnegation, usesPython, Morning Tweet

With

13

known votes, it takes

7

of them to achieve a majority.

Deadline is in:

(expired on 2023-08-06 18:50:00)

Moderator Notes:

- Ranger is V/LA indefinetly.
- Kyoko Kirigiri is V/LA every Sunday thru Tuesday.
- DragonEater70 is V/LA every Tuesday.
- Rauthedir is V/LA until Sunday.

Nightmare

usesPython's proposal: [Ranger, usesPython, Radical Rat, Abnegation, DragonEater70, KatyKimFanClub, sheepsaysmeep] (4):

usesPython, KKFC, Radical Rat, Ircher

DragonEater70's proposal: [usesPython, Ranger, Radical Rat, Abnegation, DragonEater70] (1):

DragonEater70

Flea The Magician's proposal: [usesPython, Ranger, Radical Rat, DragonEater70, Abegnation] (1):

Flea The Magician

Ranger's proposal: [Radical Rat, Abnegation, DragonEater70, usesPython, Ranger, sheepsaysmeep, KatyKimFanClub] (1):

Ranger

With

13

known votes, it takes

7

of them to achieve a majority.
Nobody is confirmed to run the Nightmare.

Spoiler: Pronouns

Pronoun Key

Later

[DragonEater70]

VOTE: Ircher
I believe this power to be scum (if beneficial to town, it is immensely more useful in a non-cult scum's hands to keep key town players from getting culted without overlapping on scum already immune to culting)

Why would you want to prevent key townies from being culted as scum? Aren't you going to kill them all the same?

[DragonEater70]

Oh I missed quite a few pages

[DragonEater70]

Mafia Alarmist makes literally no sense when groupscum are ALREADY immune. So even if they have one, they won't use it on themselves, and if they use it on Town that's... good for us, regardless of who's doing it?

Yeah exactly

[DragonEater70]

UNVOTE: Ircher

Kinda wanna flip Rauth here tbh

Kinda agree tbh

However I also wanna flip KKFC because a thought occured to me that if they ARE cult or even part of the cult, they can cult the masons and the "check" wouldn't do a thing.

[KatyKimFanClub]

However I also wanna flip KKFC because a thought occurred to me that if they ARE cult or even part of the cult, they can cult the masons and the "check" wouldn't do a thing.

Isn't this logic true for literally any non-Mason role in this game? All of the investigates can be faked because you can just ask your culted target for a result.

[Rautherdir]

VOTE: Ircher
I believe this power to be scum (if beneficial to town, it is immensely more useful in a non-cult scum's hands to keep key town players from getting culted without overlapping on scum already immune to culting)

Why would you want to prevent key townies from being culted as scum? Aren't you going to kill them all the same?

I admittedly might not have been thinking when I made that argument, my primary argument is that I don't think there is a cult, and thus don't think there is an alarmist.

[DragonEater70]

Sure but we're talking about the last game which had a Normal Cop that was called a Bloodhound and using that to conclude that it's possible KKFC is a Normal Alien that's called a Marshall

No, the cop was this:

Spoiler: TemporalLich

Biblically Accurate Angel

Strange Dreams Mafia

Welcome, TemporalLich! You are a

Biblically Accurate Angel (Town JOAT)

, and aligned with

The Good Dreams.

I had a dream once that BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID.

Your personal abilities are as follows:
~

Defaults

: You have your voice, and your vote. You may use both of these to try to kill whoever you think is not aligned with you.
~

JOAT

: You have access to several 1-Shot abilities, which are listed below.
~

1-Shot Doctor

: Once per game, you may target someone to protect them against one kill that night.
~

1-Shot Cop

: Once per game, you may target someone to learn if they are a "Horrible Dream" or "Not a Horrible Dream".
~

1-Shot PGO

: Once per game, you may kill all players who target you tonight.
~

1-Shot Roleblocker

: Once per game, you may prevent another player from taking any actions tonight.

You win if

all threats to

The Good Dreams

are dead, and at least one member of your faction is still alive.

Please confirm you have read this PM by submitting your flavor back to me.

Bloodhound was different.

In any case I don't see how all this matters, can't a cult leader also be an alien?

[usesPython]

UNVOTE: Ircher

Kinda wanna flip Rauth here tbh

Kinda agree tbh

However I also wanna flip KKFC because a thought occured to me that if they ARE cult or even part of the cult, they can cult the masons and the "check" wouldn't do a thing.

@mod if a mason had their alignment changed would their mason partners be informed about the alignment change?

[usesPython]

Sure but we're talking about the last game which had a Normal Cop that was called a Bloodhound and using that to conclude that it's possible KKFC is a Normal Alien that's called a Marshall

No, the cop was this:

Spoiler: TemporalLich

Biblically Accurate Angel

Strange Dreams Mafia

Welcome, TemporalLich! You are a

Biblically Accurate Angel (Town JOAT)

, and aligned with

The Good Dreams.

I had a dream once that BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID.

Your personal abilities are as follows:
~

Defaults

: You have your voice, and your vote. You may use both of these to try to kill whoever you think is not aligned with you.
~

JOAT

: You have access to several 1-Shot abilities, which are listed below.
~

1-Shot Doctor

: Once per game, you may target someone to protect them against one kill that night.
~

1-Shot Cop

: Once per game, you may target someone to learn if they are a "Horrible Dream" or "Not a Horrible Dream".
~

1-Shot PGO

: Once per game, you may kill all players who target you tonight.
~

1-Shot Roleblocker

: Once per game, you may prevent another player from taking any actions tonight.

You win if

all threats to

The Good Dreams

are dead, and at least one member of your faction is still alive.

Please confirm you have read this PM by submitting your flavor back to me.

Bloodhound was different.

In any case I don't see how all this matters, can't a cult leader also be an alien?

Huh interesting, didn't see that. Our point was more about the non-standard name for Alien being possible

[Korina]

UNVOTE: Ircher

Kinda wanna flip Rauth here tbh

Kinda agree tbh

However I also wanna flip KKFC because a thought occured to me that if they ARE cult or even part of the cult, they can cult the masons and the "check" wouldn't do a thing.

@mod if a mason had their alignment changed would their mason partners be informed about the alignment change?

No.

[DragonEater70]

However I also wanna flip KKFC because a thought occurred to me that if they ARE cult or even part of the cult, they can cult the masons and the "check" wouldn't do a thing.

Isn't this logic true for literally any non-Mason role in this game? All of the investigates can be faked because you can just ask your culted target for a result.

It is, and I once almost won a game (off site) as a cult leader like this (asked my cultee to fake a guilty on the cop who guiltied me, unfortunately scum were successful in persuading the remaining town to vote me). I don't know of any objective way for a person to confirm themselves as non-CL without either flipping someone who vouched for them, or having like 3 investigatives vouch for them on D3 (when they could've only culted 2). That's part of the big problems with cults.

[DragonEater70]

Huh interesting, didn't see that. Our point was more about the non-standard name for Alien being possible

Yeah I guess it is a possibility.

[DragonEater70]

I mean my role doesn't say "bomb" either.

[DragonEater70]

Oh.

[DragonEater70]

Just ignore that post please.

[KatyKimFanClub]

[camelCasedSnivy]

Just ignore that post please.

ayo

[DragonEater70]

We should get the nightmare sorted out before we hammer btw

Does this mean I'm getting elimmed regardless of what I say at this point? Or are we still deciding who to kill from the PoE?

If you are town and you have a better idea for a lim, go ahead and suggest it.

[Rautherdir]

Ircher seems pretty set on getting me limmed so.

[DragonEater70]

Oh was that a hammer on ircher a long time ago? Oopsie.

[usesPython]

Oh was that a hammer on ircher a long time ago? Oopsie.

E-1, not hammer

[DragonEater70]

Also since no one has claimed to be Rangers opponent it's possible she's fighting scum. Can we ask the people with a chess elo higher than 500 to play a game with us?

Spoiler:

1. e4

Gladly, but I have no clue how to play chess on this site.

[DragonEater70]

Oh was that a hammer on ircher a long time ago? Oopsie.

E-1, not hammer

Oh okay. I would hammer but pretty sure I'm already voting there.

[usesPython]

Also since no one has claimed to be Rangers opponent it's possible she's fighting scum. Can we ask the people with a chess elo higher than 500 to play a game with us?

Spoiler:

1. e4

Gladly, but I have no clue how to play chess on this site.

We're assuming that conftown would admit to playing chess this game so no need