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Post Post #3450 (ISO) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:50 am

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I'm trying to imagine this from scum's POV if Ircher is 3rd party. Like they know he's not scum but he's doing this WIFOM-y anti-spew thing. At some point they should start getting really concerned right?
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Post Post #3451 (ISO) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:51 am

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i dont think everyone self hammers as scum and its not necessarily helpful to cut discussion short although i would say it usually is

I think Ircher is trying to coordinate some kind of scum on scum strategy with his like, mysterious comments about Rauth or whoever. if thats true he might be using the rest of his time to talk with his scum partner abt who the other scum are and what to do abt them
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Post Post #3452 (ISO) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:52 am

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In post 3340, Ircher wrote: It honestly sounds more like the kind of ability a third party would have to make up for the fact that they have to survive on their own to win.

You also never answered my question about why you couldn't reveal your flavor. Are you afraid that it will out you as scum?
like, what makes camel specifically third party here and not just scum?
idk this comment is weird.
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Post Post #3453 (ISO) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:52 am

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We probably? don't have an Antisocial Jester in the game so Ircher's fine to lim here
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Post Post #3454 (ISO) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:52 am

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i am sus of camel though.
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Post Post #3455 (ISO) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:53 am

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HURT: usespython's proposal
VOTE: ircher

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Post Post #3456 (ISO) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:54 am

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In post 3454, Abnegation wrote: i am sus of camel though.
I think the game can be broken down into camel/STD, KKFC/sheep as possible scum/cult pairs and then Ircher's just different scum
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Post Post #3457 (ISO) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:55 am

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That or maybe ircher wants to live (referring to why he doesnt selfhammer), it could be mmultiple things

I am struggling to really justify any lim besides Ircher or maybe Rauth but Rauth could shoot somebodi an exonerate himself so

I suspect its part of irchers role that abnegnation was redirected (Did you see Titus' role, damn!) they seem pretty powerful. Probably owing to the huge mason faction.

Plus, Ircher is hiding things for no perceivable benefit at least from the outside looking in
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Post Post #3458 (ISO) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:56 am

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HURT: Python's proposal

Pseudo vote Ircher
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Post Post #3459 (ISO) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:57 am

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Do we provide a shot list for Rauth or just let him do his thing?
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Post Post #3460 (ISO) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:59 am

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In post 3456, usesPython wrote:
In post 3454, Abnegation wrote: i am sus of camel though.
I think the game can be broken down into camel/STD, KKFC/sheep as possible scum/cult pairs and then Ircher's just different scum
if we're testing pairs then KKFC/camel should be flipped first since they give mechanical clears
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Post Post #3461 (ISO) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:00 pm

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Honestly you guys can shoot me but you should let me know first so I can roleblock sheep.
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Post Post #3462 (ISO) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:01 pm

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I guess this is all conditional on Ircher flipping scum.
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Post Post #3463 (ISO) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:02 pm

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I tend to use guys as a gender neutral term, sorry if it offends anyone. What I meant to say was y'all.
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Post Post #3464 (ISO) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:22 pm

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I wanna ask who I should use my last alignment cop shot on but the redirection is gonna fuck with that so if I could get options maybe?
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Post Post #3465 (ISO) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:59 pm

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In post 3452, Abnegation wrote:
In post 3340, Ircher wrote: It honestly sounds more like the kind of ability a third party would have to make up for the fact that they have to survive on their own to win.

You also never answered my question about why you couldn't reveal your flavor. Are you afraid that it will out you as scum?
like, what makes camel specifically third party here and not just scum?
idk this comment is weird.
What purpose does mafia have for an alignment cop? To tell whether someone was culted/third party? I don't know, that doesn't sound useful at all. A 3rd party on the other hand could really use the information that alignment cop provides and it makes more sense for stronger abilities to be on 3rd parties anyway from a balance perspective.
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Post Post #3466 (ISO) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:01 pm

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In post 3464, camelCasedSnivy wrote: I wanna ask who I should use my last alignment cop shot on but the redirection is gonna fuck with that so if I could get options maybe?
If you want a guilty, Rautherdir is the correct play. If you want to narrow the PoE, Morning Tweet.
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Post Post #3467 (ISO) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:04 pm

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Post Post #3468 (ISO) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:12 pm

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In post 3465, Ircher wrote:
In post 3452, Abnegation wrote:
In post 3340, Ircher wrote: It honestly sounds more like the kind of ability a third party would have to make up for the fact that they have to survive on their own to win.

You also never answered my question about why you couldn't reveal your flavor. Are you afraid that it will out you as scum?
like, what makes camel specifically third party here and not just scum?
idk this comment is weird.
What purpose does mafia have for an alignment cop? To tell whether someone was culted/third party? I don't know, that doesn't sound useful at all. A 3rd party on the other hand could really use the information that alignment cop provides and it makes more sense for stronger abilities to be on 3rd parties anyway from a balance perspective.
why does camel have to be trueclaiming? did i miss something?
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Post Post #3469 (ISO) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:14 pm

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Well camel could be fake claiming but there's better roles to fake claim that isn't going to provide as much info as alignment cop does.
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Post Post #3470 (ISO) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:15 pm

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In post 3351, Ircher wrote: Correct lim order is probably Rautherdir -> camelCase -> Ranger. I guarantee you will hit 3/3 scum.
This remains the correct elimination order.
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Post Post #3471 (ISO) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:31 pm

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In post 3466, Ircher wrote:
In post 3464, camelCasedSnivy wrote: I wanna ask who I should use my last alignment cop shot on but the redirection is gonna fuck with that so if I could get options maybe?
If you want a guilty, Rautherdir is the correct play. If you want to narrow the PoE, Morning Tweet.
If you are paranoid, you should do Ranger.
ranger is an IC we can just ask them in cylo right?

unless ofc they have some sort of extra kp
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Post Post #3472 (ISO) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:22 pm

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Ranger is only a lim if they refuse to trigger IC after the masons ask them to.
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Post Post #3473 (ISO) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:37 pm

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I believe scum have figured this out by now so I'll go ahead and say it. My flip would actually prove Morning Tweet and Ranger's claims and make both town, given that both of them claimed the unique modifier before I claimed my role which has the reason for that modifier existing. If Ircher flips with the redirecting component then my night action should be very predictable.
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Post Post #3474 (ISO) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:46 pm

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Make both town assuming there isn't a cult. If there is a cult then uh. Hmm. Ircher if scum have a reason to suspect a cult please just tell us because they're probably close to a win right now.
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