Weird Dreams Mafia Redux [Finished]

[Korina]

Mine

[KatyKimFanClub]

If Ircher flips culted here I am clear btw.

[usesPython]

If Ircher flips culted here I am clear btw.

How? Mechanically you could have CL'd sheep and Ircher n1/n2

[KatyKimFanClub]

Yeah nevermind.

[Rautherdir]

If Ircher is cult I think they might actually be CL anyways. Would explain why they didn't self hammer.

[Rautherdir]

Just... Waiting for the flip pretty much though. I'm pretty sure this is horrible dream and not cult.

[Ircher]

Well, it looks like I got hammered.

[Ircher]

Anyway, Rautherdir lied about his N2 action. There's no way that he could have absorbed a vigilante shot from Radical Rat.

[usesPython]

Anyway, Rautherdir lied about his N2 action. There's no way that he could have absorbed a vigilante shot from Radical Rat.

Cool, why is it impossible?

[Ircher]

You'll understand with the flip.

[Rautherdir]

Anyway, Rautherdir lied about his N2 action. There's no way that he could have absorbed a vigilante shot from Radical Rat.

Weird, since I've checked twice now and that is definitely what I got.

[Rautherdir]

Absorber might have weird Action Resolution timing, keep in mind.

[Rautherdir]

I can absorb powers that are already used up. I cannot absorb new powers that were given by inventions or such.

[usesPython]

Absorber might have weird Action Resolution timing, keep in mind.

If there is really no other option, the traditional recommendation of Natural Action Resolution is to pick whichever of the conflicting actions comes first on the following list, and resolve it first:

• Copy
  
• Hide
  
• Bus Drive
  
• Block
  
• Redirect
  
• Protect
  
• Miscellaneous
  
• Kill
  
• Recruit
  
• Inspect

Absorber would be a copy action

[Rautherdir]

I.e. it's based on their original role.

[Rautherdir]

So if whatever happened was on night two my action would have happened first.

[usesPython]

Oh wait Ircher's claiming Bus Driver or something who swapped Radical Rat here

[usesPython]

Yeah no Ircher's wrong, the Copy goes through first before any Bus Drives/Redirects so if Rauth targeted RR they'd get the vig shot

[Ircher]

The golden rule of NAR would apply first.

[usesPython]

The golden rule of NAR would apply first.

yeah and you'd get a conflict

Sometimes the actions that might affect each other form a loop, so that there's no action to pick in step 1. In other cases, the order of two actions matters but it isn't clear that one affects the other.

An example of an action loop:

• Player 1 blocks Player 2.
  
• Player 2 redirects Player 1 onto player 3.

In this case, both actions affect each other; player 2's action changes the target of player 1's, while player 1 prevent player 2 from performing an action.

Note that this loop would not occur if either of the players had chosen different targets. If player 2 had targeted someone else, then the roleblock is not affected by any other actions, and player 2 will just be blocked outright. If player 1 had targeted someone else, then the redirect is not affected by any other actions, so player 1 will end up blocking player 2's target.

An example of two actions that interfere without affecting each other:

• Player 1 vanilliaises Player 3;
  
• Player 2 gives an invention to Player 3.

In this case, the order of applying the actions affects whether player 3 loses just the abilities they had at the start of the night, or whether they lose the invention as well.

Again, there is no conflict if the players pick different targets; for instance, if player 1 targets player 2, then the gift of the invention has absolutely no effect on the vanillaising, so the vanillaising (which would prevent the invention being given with some variants of Vanillaiser) happens first.

These cases are both very rare. Normally, the Golden Rule will be sufficient to resolve almost any combination of actions. Try to resolve actions using the Golden Rule first before reading onwards.

[usesPython]

The Golden Rule

Apply actions which modify other actions before the actions they modify.

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Applying the Golden Rule in Three Easy Steps

1. Find an action (or a passive modifier, such as Bulletproof) such that its effect cannot possibly be modified by any other action.
   
2. Resolve it.
   
3. Repeat from step 1 until all actions are resolved.

[Rautherdir]

Absorber already didn't care about if abilities were taken away or given since the start of the game, so I assumed it might be a bit odd in other ways as well.

[Rautherdir]

I neglected to actually ask if my ability could get redirected though. That probably should have been important to ask given uh... I have a redirecting ability so I knew they were possible.

[Ircher]

There's no conflict. The absorption ability would depend on the other ability, but the other ability doesn't depend on the absorption ability.

[Rautherdir]

The first part is all that is needed for there to be a conflict. If two abilities being used would determine how one of the abilities functions, that's a conflict. I already know that absorber doesn't even care about vanillaisation that happened on earlier nights, so. Not caring about redirect especially since copy has higher priority to begin with doesn't seem like a stretch.