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Post Post #3525 (ISO) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 6:49 am

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Then again, also can't copy inventions, so. Probably more of a nerf in this setup.
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Post Post #3526 (ISO) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 6:53 am

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In post 3523, Ircher wrote: There's no conflict. The absorption ability would depend on the other ability, but the other ability doesn't depend on the absorption ability.
In other cases, the order of two actions matters but it isn't clear that one affects the other.
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Post Post #3527 (ISO) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 6:55 am

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Whenever the order of actions matters, that's a conflict
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Post Post #3528 (ISO) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 6:57 am

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And a deflect plus any other action on the same target creates a conflict.
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Post Post #3529 (ISO) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:00 am

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Wow, that means Absorb probably doesn't even care about hiders or rolestops either.
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Post Post #3530 (ISO) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:03 am

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I think a redirector or roleblocker on me would still affect Absorb though? Weird rules be weird.
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Post Post #3531 (ISO) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:10 am

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@Korina does a redirection ability have priority over an absorber ability?
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Post Post #3532 (ISO) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:14 am

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Might want to clarify a copy class ability since there's no proof absorber exists yet..
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Post Post #3533 (ISO) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:14 am

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(the question as it is can only be asked privately by me)
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Post Post #3534 (ISO) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:15 am

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sure

@Korina does a redirection ability have priority over a copy ability?
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Post Post #3535 (ISO) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:18 am

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If I was busdriven or something similar, I think Rauth should have absorbed whoever I got swapped with, which would presumably be Ircher since Abnegation targeted him and got me.
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Post Post #3536 (ISO) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:19 am

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Me being swapped with someone else absolutely affects what ability gets absorbed.

But we can deal with it after the flip and decide whether Ircher's just bullshitting or not.
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Post Post #3537 (ISO) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:21 am

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In post 3523, Ircher wrote: There's no conflict. The absorption ability would depend on the other ability, but the other ability doesn't depend on the absorption ability.
This is correct as far as I understand it.
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Post Post #3538 (ISO) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:25 am

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tbh i dont understand NAR i think asking the question is good enough
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Post Post #3539 (ISO) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:26 am

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All I know is that I got vig from targeting Radical Rat
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Post Post #3540 (ISO) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:32 am

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Never harm in asking, yeah.
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Post Post #3541 (ISO) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:48 am

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Honestly though, I'd be more inclined to believe Korina goofed than that Rauth is lying at this point anyway.

He's already claimed to have a vig and a bus driver anyway, so it's not like claiming absorber is protecting him from any role related investigations, and we know he didn't block, redirect, or kill me since my vig shot went to my intended target and I'm still alive, so there's nothing he'd need to cover for visiting me.

He may or may not still be cult if he got recruited, but there's no point in him lying about something like this.
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Post Post #3542 (ISO) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:19 am

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I've just been assuming Ircher was lying to get me elimed honestly. I assumed redirects would work myself. Though learning that action priority does make me think it might work different.
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Post Post #3543 (ISO) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:34 am

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In post 3534, camelCasedSnivy wrote: sure

@Korina does a redirection ability have priority over a copy ability?
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Post Post #3544 (ISO) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:39 am

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(Flip will happen soon, as well. I’m heading home from work right now.)
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Post Post #3545 (ISO) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:39 am

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Welp, there we go.
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Post Post #3546 (ISO) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:44 am

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Flavor.
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Post Post #3547 (ISO) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:44 am

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VC 3.Final
Ircher (7, ===[]):
Ranger, DragonEater70, sheepsaysmeep, Rautherdir, camelCasedSnivy, Abnegation, Morning Tweet
Rauthedir (1):
Ircher
Save the Dragons (0):

camelCasedSnivy (0):

Abnegation (0):

Flea the Magician (0):

DragonEater70 (0):

Ranger (0):

Radical Rat (0):

KatyKimFanClub (0):

Morning Tweet (0):

usesPython (0):

sheepsaysmeep (0):


Not Voting (6):
Radical Rat, Flea The Magician, usesPython

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Deadline is in:
(expired on 2023-08-06 18:50:00)

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usesPython's proposal: [Ranger, usesPython, Radical Rat, Abnegation, DragonEater70, KatyKimFanClub, sheepsaysmeep] (7, ===[]):
usesPython, KKFC, Radical Rat, Ircher, Abnegation, Morning Tweet, Rauthedir
Ircher's proposal [Morning Tweet, Ircher, Save the Dragons, sheepsaysmeep, Flea The Magician] (1)
: Ircher
DragonEater70's proposal: [usesPython, Ranger, Radical Rat, Abnegation, DragonEater70] (1):
DragonEater70
Flea The Magician's proposal: [usesPython, Ranger, Radical Rat, DragonEater70, Abegnation] (1):
Flea The Magician
Ranger's proposal: [Radical Rat, Abnegation, DragonEater70, usesPython, Ranger, sheepsaysmeep, KatyKimFanClub] (1):
Ranger

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Post Post #3548 (ISO) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:59 am

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In post 3486, Morning Tweet wrote: if i die i die


VOTE: Ircher
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Post Post #3549 (ISO) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:04 am

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Ircher was executed Day 3. He was a
Dark Miasma (Cult Passive Contingent Random Redirector)
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I once had a dream that the strange little oddity had finally found me, and made me join it. Together, we stood stronger, more powerful than either one of us could on our own.

Welcome
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Dark Miasma (Cult Passive Contingent Random Redirector)
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Innate Abilities:

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Unique
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~
Passive Contingent Random Redirector
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The Good Dreams
have died, you will automatically redirect any actions targeted at you to a different player. The target player will be randomly selected from all living players.
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Backup Contingency
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Factional Information
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[REDACTED]


Victory Condition
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~ You win if all threats to
Liminal Space
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