Posting to say I'm here. 5am NZ time, will be more substantive in the daytime.
Does losing a cop affect whether it's worth hypoclaiming today or not? My instinct says it's still worth it but I haven't mathed it out yet. Interested in thoughts.
Also @sheep can you explain your town read on PC?
Pedit: lol well I'm Seer and PC is scum.
Also I have an inno on Doctor Drew (if scum are wolves).
"holy shit this entire time i thought imaginalitys profile was a purple seahorse" - camelCasedSnivy
I guess if the guilty is real that reinforces my drew/imaginality team theory that I like?? but like suddenly I thought about PC and doubted my townread lol
The whole thing day 1 was just to hide my actual role and so I wouldn't die in the night. I think I achieved that fairly well. But I think the whole wifom of me claiming cop is marinating in towns mind and leading them down dark paths.
overall I am claiming today partly because of that instead of continuing to hide and I caught a wolf
, partly because nothing is really happening this game and maybe this can jump start it and town can figure out who the last wolf is tomorrow when I die tonight.
The way this is worded makes it obvious it's from scum perspective. PC is under suspicion so a Seer claim either wins the game or at least outs the real Seer.
A town Seer with a guilty in elo isn't gonna make the first half of that post all about self-preservation. Or say they're claiming the guilty to jump start action.
A town Seer would either be like "hi I'm Seer, I have a guilty on X" or wait to see if X gets limmed without them having to claim maybe. Risky in elo but with other people voicing suspicion of me a town PC might have waited. Instead of thinking "ah, seems like enough suspicion on imag that I can fake a guilty there and be believed"
VOTE: PC
"holy shit this entire time i thought imaginalitys profile was a purple seahorse" - camelCasedSnivy
I thought if PC is scum I might be the NK considering I was heavily suspicious of PC all D1, so I didn't think it likely I'd live to claim a guilty. Whereas I could see Drew as an under the radar scum and thought that scum teams with Drew would have less reason to target me.
"holy shit this entire time i thought imaginalitys profile was a purple seahorse" - camelCasedSnivy
I thought if PC is scum I might be the NK considering I was heavily suspicious of PC all D1, so I didn't think it likely I'd live to claim a guilty. Whereas I could see Drew as an under the radar scum and thought that scum teams with Drew would have less reason to target me.
The whole thing day 1 was just to hide my actual role and so I wouldn't die in the night. I think I achieved that fairly well. But I think the whole wifom of me claiming cop is marinating in towns mind and leading them down dark paths.
overall I am claiming today partly because of that instead of continuing to hide and I caught a wolf
, partly because nothing is really happening this game and maybe this can jump start it and town can figure out who the last wolf is tomorrow when I die tonight.
The way this is worded makes it obvious it's from scum perspective. PC is under suspicion so a Seer claim either wins the game or at least outs the real Seer.
A town Seer with a guilty in elo isn't gonna make the first half of that post all about self-preservation. Or say they're claiming the guilty to jump start action.
A town Seer would either be like "hi I'm Seer, I have a guilty on X" or wait to see if X gets limmed without them having to claim maybe. Risky in elo but with other people voicing suspicion of me a town PC might have waited. Instead of thinking "ah, seems like enough suspicion on imag that I can fake a guilty there and be believed"
VOTE: PC
if I understand this post correctly tho I dont really agree with it
I think scum fakeclaiming / seer claiming real guilty would be pretty similar in this regard. both understand that they need to express the guilty and get the guilty limmed while also not dying themselves
I really do have to sleep now but back in 3 hours ish.
Pedit: not sure what "really dumb logic of me not being here" refers to?
[Also "dumb" is ableist language, fyi]
@sheep maybe I'm biased as I know PC is scum; but the way that sentence was worded just doesn't seem to me to be how town would explain claiming a guilty.
"holy shit this entire time i thought imaginalitys profile was a purple seahorse" - camelCasedSnivy
wouldnt it be a weird lucky coincidence if PC was scum fakeclaiming seer guilty on imaginality and then imaginality was the real seer ????? I feel like this points in PC's favor
I feel like if PC was scum and then the seer was anyone other than imag he wouldve been screwed over
the thing is. if I didnt have meta I'd be scumreading PC in this game. and in my last towngame with him, Without meta, I reached a confident townread. ??
but at the same time based on meta he's still a confident townread lmao
like which way I vote is almost a question of personal philosophy
imaginality is the wolf because they wrote about whether it was worth hypo claiming today when they are claiming a guilty result and we are in limlo. I wrote yesterday that we would put innos if we hypo claimed; the guilty they put forth is clearly in reaction the the guilty placed on them.
And yes sheep I did think that PC claiming was suspect but it looks like they did it because they had a role claim to fall back on.
I don't agree that PC's claim was a good play. They didn't know whether it was a mafia team or a wolf team, so how is fake claiming cop as seer for wifom a better play than true claiming seer?
It seems like the same thing really, except with no chance of having the real cop counter claim you on day 1.
I guess if the guilty is real that reinforces my drew/imaginality team theory that I like?? but like suddenly I thought about PC and doubted my townread lol
pedit oh wow
I feel like you keep switching between saying it is me/imaginality and drew/imaginality and I'm not sure if you are just mixing our names up.
I guess if the guilty is real that reinforces my drew/imaginality team theory that I like?? but like suddenly I thought about PC and doubted my townread lol
pedit oh wow
I feel like you keep switching between saying it is me/imaginality and drew/imaginality and I'm not sure if you are just mixing our names up.
yeah it's just mixing up names lol.
I think drew/imaginality is like, more likely than rand, they felt w/w
I had no reason why u are more or less likely than rand to be paired with anyone lmfao ur like an empty space
In post 202, imaginality wrote:
Posting to say I'm here. 5am NZ time, will be more substantive in the daytime.
Does losing a cop affect whether it's worth hypoclaiming today or not?
My instinct says it's still worth it but I haven't mathed it out yet. Interested in thoughts.
Also @sheep can you explain your town read on PC?
Pedit: lol well I'm Seer and PC is scum
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Also I have an inno on Doctor Drew (if scum are wolves).
this is clearly scum posting. there is no way he preview edited the fact that I got a guilty on him and he was waiting the whole time with his post in the full editor and preview tab...plus it is a cc like lmao?
The whole thing day 1 was just to hide my actual role and so I wouldn't die in the night. I think I achieved that fairly well. But I think the whole wifom of me claiming cop is marinating in towns mind and leading them down dark paths.
overall I am claiming today partly because of that instead of continuing to hide and I caught a wolf
, partly because nothing is really happening this game and maybe this can jump start it and town can figure out who the last wolf is tomorrow when I die tonight.
The way this is worded makes it obvious it's from scum perspective. PC is under suspicion so a Seer claim either wins the game or at least outs the real Seer.
A town Seer with a guilty in elo isn't gonna make the first half of that post all about self-preservation. Or say they're claiming the guilty to jump start action.
A town Seer would either be like "hi I'm Seer, I have a guilty on X" or wait to see if X gets limmed without them having to claim maybe. Risky in elo but with other people voicing suspicion of me a town PC might have waited. Instead of thinking "ah, seems like enough suspicion on imag that I can fake a guilty there and be believed"
VOTE: PC
day 1 people were freaked out about the claim I made today drew voted me outright I think it's fairly safe to say that what I am thinking is reflecting in the towns actions. it boils down to do I think I as a seer I can continue to hide push you while hiding and not have town lim me after I hard push you/death tunnel you for knowing your a wolf but not saying anything and make the push solely about what happened yesterday. the whole proposition seems sysiphean to me I think it is much neater and cleaner and more honest if I simply claim my guilty and have town examine me and the guilty and look for associations with the wolf it is on balance a much better plan than hiding as seer pushing my guilty without claiming and having to deal with the fact that I claimed cop day 1. the whole reason for me claiming cop was just so I wouldn't die n1 no more no less. I think I safely assured that and I am just morally luck that you are wolf and not mafioso.
