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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 6:55 am

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In post 98, Deal With The Devil wrote:
In post 89, SirCakez wrote: why hello there
VOTE: devil bc satan is sus
I banish thee to hell for being a non-believer.

VOTE: SirCakez

Also, wouldn't Neighborhood Watch be good?

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woukdnt it be good to get neighbourhood watch when we're down a scum so they dont have time to plot evily on their comeback?
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 6:59 am

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In post 100, marcistar wrote:
In post 98, Deal With The Devil wrote:
In post 89, SirCakez wrote: why hello there
VOTE: devil bc satan is sus
I banish thee to hell for being a non-believer.

VOTE: SirCakez

Also, wouldn't Neighborhood Watch be good?

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woukdnt it be good to get neighbourhood watch when we're down a scum so they dont have time to plot evily on their comeback?
Good point, I like making it difficult for myself as scum. Makes the victory much more satisfying.

Also, reading a bit more info like the Trading post idea, feels like the more money to play with the better.

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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 7:03 am

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whats ur ideals here then

trading post and ?
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 7:06 am

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In post 102, marcistar wrote: whats ur ideals here then

trading post and ?
Neighborhood Watch, forgot two can go through.
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 7:12 am

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why do u want it

please convince me because i dont see it
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 7:16 am

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In post 104, marcistar wrote: why do u want it

please convince me because i dont see it
Scum not having daytalk seems like a decent disadvantage to them.

Though as I type this up I feel it would a much stronger effect later in the game and even possible endgame, so may be better to hold off on it.

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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 7:21 am

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HURT: Printing Press

Feel like this might be the best combo for the start of the game now.

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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 7:22 am

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yeah thats what im saying! its good but since we can only do things once i feel like we need to save it

if we remove it now wouldnt it be an advantage to them to make them seem more townie?
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 7:30 am

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In post 107, marcistar wrote: yeah thats what im saying! its good but since we can only do things once i feel like we need to save it

if we remove it now wouldnt it be an advantage to them to make them seem more townie?
We can do non-development projects twice, just not on the same day and not on consecutive days.

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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 7:36 am

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maybe i need to read a book or something one day soon

because damn apparently i dont know how to read :oops:
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 7:36 am

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In post 33, Merlyn wrote: VOTE: penguin power this is a utopia, penguins have exactly the right amount of power[/vote]

HURT: neighborhood watch to not have day talk early on could be more damaging then later when there a groove.

I also support printing press, it's pretty clear later stuff is gonna cost more than the current budget and if we don't keep up increasing it it may be days before we can pick something really good.
If you mean Trading Outpost to up the budget to 70k, I disagree. I initially felt like it was an obviously good choice but then I realized the budget doesn't carry over so the extra value is lost if it's not used. And there's very few ways to get an exactly 70k daily spend right now, even fewer of which seem any good. If there's something really cool that unlocks later and needs the boost we can go for the upgrade then. Remember, we can't use developments more than once so 70k is the most our regular daily budget will be and something like Sacrifice that gives a temporary boost will be needed in order to get a larger amount.

So possibly we want to wait to use Sacrifice. I was thinking our chances of hitting scum were worst on day one so the benefit was most likely to kick in, but was overlooking that it was separately handled by whoever voted for it rather than a function tacked onto the elimination, so that could be a bit alarming if scum are voting for it.

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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 7:38 am

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aureal i wanna marry you omg
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 7:43 am

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In post 44, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 40, marcistar wrote: why would printing press be useful instead of just... unlocking the things?
It would be silly to assume we can unlock everything. So going down a path blind seems equally silly.
There's only three unlock developments. I don't see anything that indicates there will be more unlockables after that. The game making it through three nights seems pretty likely to me. Especially since scum may not have a nightkill. So yes, I think unlocking all three categories seems quite possible. Voting manipulation seems like a waste, though. Having non-standard vote weights is generally considered useless or antitown. So as much fun as it would be to campaign for mayor, I think ignoring those is probably the better way to go.
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 7:47 am

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The thought crossed my mind that it would be fitting if Insurgence was a cult.
I swear we didn’t roll cult leader.


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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 7:55 am

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In post 69, biancospino wrote:
In post 68, JasonWazza wrote:
In post 0, biancospino wrote: Raffle ($10,000) -- 50% chance that a random Citizen gets a fruit.
@Mod: Is the raffle decided publicly?
The lucky receipient of the fruit, if one exists, will be selected at random, and will not be announced publicly; the fruit is delivered privately
Yeah, that's how I expected it to work so it's odd that Roden thought it could confirm people. I don't see any way for it to do that, not with us not even knowing if the fruit went out or not. If we knew for sure fruit was going out, someone could claim it to be confirmed (or catch scum trying to fake-claim receiving it). But it's a notably weaker confirm when scum can take the 50% chance that there was no fruit and claim to have received it.
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 8:27 am

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In post 113, Deal With The Devil wrote: The thought crossed my mind that it would be fitting if Insurgence was a cult.
I swear we didn’t roll cult leader.


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I was thinking flavour-wise, a group of political insurgents might try to recruit people to their cause, but with Intelligentsia on the billboard, there might be a mech case too. 10v3 is just the meta for two-faction 13p games, so us being able to ask about the number of Insurgents might suggest we either don’t have 3 or they can recruit more.

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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 8:30 am

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Or we don’t get flips? Assassination and Autopsy would suggest that. Probably can’t ask about Insurgence factional abilities but
@mod - by default, will the alignment of executed players be revealed?
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 8:30 am

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In post 116, Deal With The Devil wrote: Or we don’t get flips? Assassination and Autopsy would suggest that. Probably can’t ask about Insurgence factional abilities but
@mod - by default, will the alignment of executed players be revealed?
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 8:31 am

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Games with mid alignment changes have to be called out in the queue, no?
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 8:32 am

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I'm getting town feels from Marci and aureal
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 8:36 am

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On second thought the aureal read may have been a bit premature, but I find myself nodding to a lot of her posts
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 8:38 am

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In post 110, Aureal wrote:
In post 33, Merlyn wrote: VOTE: penguin power this is a utopia, penguins have exactly the right amount of power[/vote]

HURT: neighborhood watch to not have day talk early on could be more damaging then later when there a groove.

I also support printing press, it's pretty clear later stuff is gonna cost more than the current budget and if we don't keep up increasing it it may be days before we can pick something really good.
If you mean Trading Outpost to up the budget to 70k, I disagree. I initially felt like it was an obviously good choice but then I realized the budget doesn't carry over so the extra value is lost if it's not used. And there's very few ways to get an exactly 70k daily spend right now, even fewer of which seem any good. If there's something really cool that unlocks later and needs the boost we can go for the upgrade then. Remember, we can't use developments more than once so 70k is the most our regular daily budget will be and something like Sacrifice that gives a temporary boost will be needed in order to get a larger amount.

So possibly we want to wait to use Sacrifice. I was thinking our chances of hitting scum were worst on day one so the benefit was most likely to kick in, but was overlooking that it was separately handled by whoever voted for it rather than a function tacked onto the elimination, so that could be a bit alarming if scum are voting for it.

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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 8:42 am

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In post 118, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Games with mid alignment changes have to be called out in the queue, no?
Yeah, there shouldn't be cult here, the only bastard mechanic noted is possible mod misdirection.
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 8:43 am

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In post 122, Aureal wrote:
In post 118, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Games with mid alignment changes have to be called out in the queue, no?
Yeah, there shouldn't be cult here, the only bastard mechanic noted is possible mod misdirection.
Lol, I should really learn to read.

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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 8:48 am

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In post 102, marcistar wrote: whats ur ideals here then

trading post and ?
Trading Post + any of the unlocks or Printing Press are probably the best options today

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