Weird Dreams Mafia Redux [Finished]

[DragonEater70]

Probably, but I'd have liked to see him try.

Don't play with your prey.

[Rautherdir]

I wasn't expecting the game to actually end today though, I thought you were group scum and we'd still have a traitor to find. So I'm worried it actually isn't over for town and we have a third party to find still... If not then uh. This feels a little too town sided? Guess I'll have to see the full setup later.

[Radical Rat]

Probably, but I'd have liked to see him try.

Don't play with your prey.

It's not about that. I didn't mean to be deliberately taunting you.

I had a degree of reasonable doubt, and while it's incredibly unlikely you'd have gotten away with it, games are more fun when played through to the end. At least for me.

I don't necessarily blame you for conceding, I just wish you hadn't is all.

[Radical Rat]

I wasn't expecting the game to actually end today though, I thought you were group scum and we'd still have a traitor to find. So I'm worried it actually isn't over for town and we have a third party to find still... If not then uh. This feels a little too town sided? Guess I'll have to see the full setup later.

I think it's definitely Townsided overall, but there was a lot of room for scum to shenanigan.

[DragonEater70]

Probably, but I'd have liked to see him try.

Don't play with your prey.

It's not about that. I didn't mean to be deliberately taunting you.

I had a degree of reasonable doubt, and while it's incredibly unlikely you'd have gotten away with it, games are more fun when played through to the end. At least for me.

I don't necessarily blame you for conceding, I just wish you hadn't is all.

Okay fine.
Just so you know, once Ircher flipped I knew I was screwed due to too many mechanical clears. Then the cult died and I realized thst just POE killing is enough for me to die before ELo.

[DragonEater70]

I wasn't expecting the game to actually end today though, I thought you were group scum and we'd still have a traitor to find. So I'm worried it actually isn't over for town and we have a third party to find still... If not then uh. This feels a little too town sided? Guess I'll have to see the full setup later.

I think it's definitely Townsided overall, but there was a lot of room for scum to shenanigan.

Oh yeah, there definitely was.
My initial plan before Alianna claimed the Backrooms thing was that you confirm us as masons and then we shoot you and coast to the endgame.

[Abnegation]

i should have just claimed some sort of a clear on you. would have been way less complicated. but i already claimed to masonry so i couldn't really alter anything about my own claim.

[DragonEater70]

And I do feel town was pretty lucky with a scum death and a mechanical guilty by end of N1. If not for that I think the shenanigans could go quite well.

[DragonEater70]

i should have just claimed some sort of a clear on you. would have been way less complicated. but i already claimed to masonry so i couldn't really alter anything about my own claim.

Yeah good point, it was my own plan that was too complicated.

[usesPython]

I wasn't expecting the game to actually end today though, I thought you were group scum and we'd still have a traitor to find. So I'm worried it actually isn't over for town and we have a third party to find still... If not then uh. This feels a little too town sided? Guess I'll have to see the full setup later.

I feel like a lot of it came down to some lucky early nightplay that just broke the game open for Town, if Titus and Kirigiri didn't die early we could see the game going either way

[Radical Rat]

I'd have probably bought a claim you rolecopped him as some obviously Townie thing, but there was no way I was gonna let the fake mason thing last longer than that day, even without Backrooms shenanigans afoot.

[DragonEater70]

Actually the guilty wasn't luck, it was the setup bwing broken.

[usesPython]

I should probably look into this but was Abne TRing Titus/Kirigiri during d1?

Jesus Christ Abnegation reads hella Traitor with her d1 posting

Oh my god we had it in the bag should have just gone with it

[usesPython]

Actually the guilty wasn't luck, it was the setup bwing broken.

It was our only instant mechanical guilty and even if it hit town Snivy could have recruited there

[usesPython]

I should probably look into this but was Abne TRing Titus/Kirigiri during d1?

Jesus Christ Abnegation reads hella Traitor with her d1 posting

what would be really funny is if the mafia or the masons could recruit the wrong traitor by mistake, but that would break the game lol.

YOUUUUUUU

[DragonEater70]

I'd have probably bought a claim you rolecopped him as some obviously Townie thing, but there was no way I was gonna let the fake mason thing last longer than that day, even without Backrooms shenanigans afoot.

Fair enough. We executed that mason claim plan prematurely due to stress about the massclaim. If we had more time we would've definitely done it a lot differently.

[DragonEater70]

Actually the guilty wasn't luck, it was the setup bwing broken.

It was our only instant mechanical guilty and even if it hit town Snivy could have recruited there

Okay true

[Radical Rat]

Actually the guilty wasn't luck, it was the setup bwing broken.

It was our only instant mechanical guilty and even if it hit town Snivy could have recruited there

Well. Maybe. I'm still of the opinion the masonry grants cult immunity.

[DragonEater70]

So maybe that one is luck.

But still a potential 4 person masonry would be crazy strong.

[usesPython]

So wait, who roleblocked Ranger n1?

[usesPython]

Also that explains a lot about the Aureal kill

[Radical Rat]

This setup was very heavily weighted toward a faction gaining control of the Nightmare. If someone with more available time and energy had been the scum in the nightmare N1, they could have steered it away from hitting partners, or pushed back harder on the possibility of there just being no masons. Cult recruiting Python would have been game changing for them. And if I'd been killed at any point, Abnegation could have totally gotten away with claiming DE70 as a mason without the rest of us able to expose the lie.

I think a Town that figures out how to effectively use the Nightmare, and is able to effectively block scum influence within it will basically always win, but there's definitely a lot of potential for things to have gone much, much worse than they did.

[usesPython]

I just want to complain that I am deeply annoyed about getting into a 1v1 with KKFC about which one was CL when neither of us was cult. I'm pretty sure I'm the last scum here and I guess I fucked up by using my inquiry ability? I didn't think it would go through as no result, oops.

@Mod: I concede.

@mod does a "No Result" result get published by a Publishing Traffic Analyst?

Correct.

What a way to end the game

[usesPython]

we had no way to anticipate the number of protective roles in the setup.

We only had Drew/Ranger/KKFC as protectives, the feeling is just magnified because of Day Motivator hitting them

[Abnegation]

we had no way to anticipate the number of protective roles in the setup.

We only had Drew/Ranger/KKFC as protectives, the feeling is just magnified because of Day Motivator hitting them

aureal was 2-shot doctor.