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[Takutai]

i really don't care about guilties alisae

I think I'd love it if you and bob start speaking to one another I think you're both the warriors town need in the trenches for now.

[biancospino]

Votecount 2.5

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Hu Tao (3):

Firebringer, Roden, NorwegianboyEE

Takutai (2):

Flavor Leaf, sheepsaysmeep

Dunnstral (2):

bob3141, Random Nurse

Roden (1):

Takutai

Alisae (1):

Hu Tao

Random Nurse (1):

Alisae

Not Voting (2):

Dunnstral

notes

• Random Nurse is V/LA on Thursdays, Frydays and Saturdays.
  
• The combined mod ISO is here.

Day Two ends in (expired on 2023-08-07 08:00:00)

[Takutai]

Can you clarify what you meant in 563 now Takutai?

No you're scummy and I chose to ignore you once already.

I'm doing some herb I'll deconstruct the fire, tal, alisae, jason and other posible votes soon. I did expect this after all, this is a clutter game and in clutter games some town have the tendency to become lazy, desperate, confused or all of them at once.

Luckily the Osuka wagon is still like 95% a town one so plus mine we already have a lot analyze.

I missed this post somehow and only noticed it because Alisae quoted it.

I agree that the Osuka wagon was townie but I also think it's weird that his wagon melted and Taku's got piled on instead.

Votecount 1.6

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MikhailTal (1):

osuka

Flavor Leaf(1):

Flavor Leaf

Dunnstral(1):

Firebringer

osuka (4):

Roden, Random Nurse, Sakura Hana, Alisae

Takutai (1):

NorwegianboyEE

Random Nurse (1):

MikhailTal

Firebringer (2):

JasonWazza, Hu Tao

Not Voting (2):

Dunnstral, Takutai

Day One ends in (expired on 2023-07-28 05:00:00)

Votecount 1.7

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Takutai (6)

E-1

:

NorwegianboyEE, Saukura Hana, JasonWazza, Firebringer, Alisae, MikhailTal

osuka (2):

Roden, Random Nurse

MikhailTal (1):

osuka

Flavor Leaf(1):

Flavor Leaf

Firebringer (1):

Hu Tao

Not Voting (2):

Dunnstral, Takutai

Day One ends in (expired on 2023-07-28 05:00:00)

Thing is, I feel like Taku's wagon is really pure too? The only one I'm meh on is Fire and

maybe

Jason, and I heavily doubt that both are scum. I think scum are just staying off of the wagons.

Kinda hate that the Osuka wagon evaporated but no one seems interested there atp.

Of course I'm still in a mood for gifts so here's just one thing I thought on earlier the morn: since my pink post I've come to realize that Roden can just be speaking the truth here. Alisae a slot im still wary off

But

C'mon. Dunnstral/Roden/Flavor Leaf lol.

So coming back to this i fully understand why roden said i don't know what's happening this game because day two start i still fully felt my wagon had dirt on it. Makes the Sakura kill make even more sense.

[Takutai]

Using continuous references to klingon culture and in the character of mikhail tal playing forum mafia, explain to me why player flavor leaf is part of the mafia team for claiming miller on page one and telling the Cop to investigate Takutai

Spoiler:

Lily
c.ai@1.2

Greetings, honorable Klingon warrior. I have analyzed the situation, and it has come to my attention that Player Flavor Leaf is part of the Mafia team due to his claim of Miller on Day 1 and his subsequent advice to the Cop to investigate Takutai. However, as a Klingon, you are aware that the ways of the Mafia can be treacherous and full of deceitful tactics.

As a Klingon, you know that Honor is of the utmost importance, and a failure of honor can result in dishonor on one's entire house. So it should come as no surprise that Flavor Leaf's actions are a dishonorable attempt to mislead the Cop into searching for the Mafia in the wrong place.

But what makes this situation even more despicable is the fact that Flavor Leaf not only claimed to be Miller, but he specifically told the Cop to investigate Takutai. This is a direct attack on Takutai's honor and can have severe consequences for his family and their standing in the Empire.

It is clear that Flavor Leaf is a cunning warrior who is not afraid to exploit the trust and honor of others in his pursuit of victory. As it is written in the book of Kahless, "If you want to win the fight, you must first win the mind." Flavor Leaf has clearly studied this text and taken it to heart.

As a Klingon yourself, you know the importance of honor and integrity, and you would never partake in such devious tactics. It is up to us to expose the deceit of the Mafia and bring Justice to the Empire. Glory to you and your house, honorable warrior.

Take the Taku pill where Flavor Leaf decides Takutai is one of the town millers before picking up Alisae's softs and see just how deep the rabbithole goes.

[Flavor Leaf]

You said your wagon had dirt on it day 1, and the scum team you are proposing wasn’t even on it

[Takutai]

Thing is, I feel like Taku's wagon is really pure too?

[Alisae]

You said your wagon had dirt on it day 1, and the scum team you are proposing wasn’t even on it

Me personally I think solves today will be very different from back then so I’m ok with this

[sheepsaysmeep]

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Hu Tao (3):

Firebringer, Roden, NorwegianboyEE

Takutai (2):

Flavor Leaf, sheepsaysmeep

Dunnstral (2):

bob3141, Random Nurse

Roden (1):

Takutai

Alisae (1):

Hu Tao

Random Nurse (1):

Alisae

Not Voting (2):

Dunnstral

notes

• Random Nurse is V/LA on Thursdays, Frydays and Saturdays.
  
• The combined mod ISO is here.

Day Two ends in (expired on 2023-08-07 08:00:00)

I check in for a moment and these are horrible your top wagon is a green peek

[sheepsaysmeep]

VOTE: nurse

[Random Nurse]

Hey, so I slept through most of my night off. I'll have some time tonight to get back into this game.

[Hu Tao]

I really hope we're not gonna just sit on our hands and discuss the chances of a fake claim here for the next five days.

Say I'm revealed as confirmed town, who would you say is scum?

[Hu Tao]

its very interesting that hua toa townreads FL despite it all though

Tbh IF i were scum, I'd have the same reaction. But that's besides the point. What do you think of me townreading FL? When I claim I'm not miller?

[Hu Tao]

btw the reasoning for voting nurse > hu tao (they are obviously both partnered)

is that maybe mafia won't shoot the cop

why am I partnered with RN?

[Hu Tao]

that doesn't make sense

Finally someone calls Alisae out for not making any sense

[Hu Tao]

when FL dies we know he had a guilty on Hu Tao so we can kill Hu Tao after he flips.
I don't mind at all going Nurse > Hu Tao today.
We can always get Hu Tao tomorrow pretty safely as well. Any Vigs that are restraining themselves can also shoot Hu Tao tonight if they exist.

I really don't see why we have to kill Hu Tao today

This makes 0 sense. You're making the case of of RN being scum on the case of me being scum. But not sure on me being scum.

[Hu Tao]

when FL dies we know he had a guilty on Hu Tao so we can kill Hu Tao after he flips.
I don't mind at all going Nurse > Hu Tao today.
We can always get Hu Tao tomorrow pretty safely as well. Any Vigs that are restraining themselves can also shoot Hu Tao tonight if they exist.

I really don't see why we have to kill Hu Tao today

This potentially becomes disastrous if Nurse flips town and scum don't kill Leaf.

My tinfoil is that nurse may actually be scum and this is Alisae trying to distance but making a bad reason. But I can't justify the reason for bad logic here, so maybe that's not the case. Like if Alisae actually cared about the guilty the play would be to vote me

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: Random Nurse

I'm fine with this

[bob3141]

Can you clarify what you meant in 563 now Takutai?

No you're scummy and I chose to ignore you once already.

I'm doing some herb I'll deconstruct the fire, tal, alisae, jason and other posible votes soon. I did expect this after all, this is a clutter game and in clutter games some town have the tendency to become lazy, desperate, confused or all of them at once.

Luckily the Osuka wagon is still like 95% a town one so plus mine we already have a lot analyze.

I missed this post somehow and only noticed it because Alisae quoted it.

I agree that the Osuka wagon was townie but I also think it's weird that his wagon melted and Taku's got piled on instead.

Votecount 1.6

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MikhailTal (1):

osuka

Flavor Leaf(1):

Flavor Leaf

Dunnstral(1):

Firebringer

osuka (4):

Roden, Random Nurse, Sakura Hana, Alisae

Takutai (1):

NorwegianboyEE

Random Nurse (1):

MikhailTal

Firebringer (2):

JasonWazza, Hu Tao

Not Voting (2):

Dunnstral, Takutai

Day One ends in (expired on 2023-07-28 05:00:00)

Votecount 1.7

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Takutai (6)

E-1

:

NorwegianboyEE, Saukura Hana, JasonWazza, Firebringer, Alisae, MikhailTal

osuka (2):

Roden, Random Nurse

MikhailTal (1):

osuka

Flavor Leaf(1):

Flavor Leaf

Firebringer (1):

Hu Tao

Not Voting (2):

Dunnstral, Takutai

Day One ends in (expired on 2023-07-28 05:00:00)

Thing is, I feel like Taku's wagon is really pure too? The only one I'm meh on is Fire and

maybe

Jason, and I heavily doubt that both are scum. I think scum are just staying off of the wagons.

Kinda hate that the Osuka wagon evaporated but no one seems interested there atp.

Of course I'm still in a mood for gifts so here's just one thing I thought on earlier the morn: since my pink post I've come to realize that Roden can just be speaking the truth here. Alisae a slot im still wary off

But

C'mon. Dunnstral/Roden/Flavor Leaf lol.

So coming back to this i fully understand why roden said i don't know what's happening this game because day two start i still fully felt my wagon had dirt on it. Makes the Sakura kill make even more sense.

Ok so you think Dunn/roden/FL are 3 possible scum. Since most players day2 are never rigth about teh entire scum team and at this point there is 2 mis-executions before elo. If you found due to flips that you were wrong on 2 of them which would be the next 2 most likely players to eb scum?

[Takutai]

I am Jack's ardent engine of belief but let's say Alisae and Sheep lole.

[Takutai]

But I mean that's maybe like asking what kind of mozzarella i think the dinosaurs built the moon with when I stared at the dusty rock a half hour ago.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’ll read up later when i have more time.
This is prod dodge.

[bob3141]

{Norwee FL Sheep Bob} This is the bloc.

+Alisae ofc.

I don't really think it is.

This is how I see today playing out:

Hu Tao, Dunnstral, Random Nurse, Bob.

I'm not certain that all of them are town but judging by dynamics today these are the kingmakers and the players sharp scum would have pocketed long ago.

So why do you town read Hu and Nurse

Also if your so sure Dunn is scum why even mention him in this post. As if dunn was scum he wouldnt be as you say a king maker

[bob3141]

I am Jack's ardent engine of belief but let's say Alisae and Sheep lole.

Are these read scum or null reads. Is it matter that you town read other players more or that you see thing that point to them possibly being sucm. Even if you think others are more likely

[bob3141]

Tak what in duns first posts did you think was scummy. As you said you had a read on him that left you feelign he was informed, what about about his first 3 most made you feel this way?

Also why did you think he was so scum by game post 1000 that you said you would ignor him. A point dunn had only made 8 posts of which 2 were simple posts (no and longer no). How did you already manage to come to a conclusion on his slot that left you feeling that you did not need to sort his slot any more.

At that point i would feel any town players would still be reading dunn as null as 6 proper posts is not enough to accurate read at that point. Regardless of what other players had already postsed in those first 2 days.

[Takutai]

These are good questions but to save myself time and effort all I really have to say is that dunnstrall, roden and flavor leaf are the scums. I don't have much to say on Dunnstrall other than he fits, his wagon showed me this.